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BSTA 2 Day Training weekend....May 1st & 2nd 2015. Course can be attended individually or consecutively.

Black Skull Tactical ·
BSTA 2 Day Training weekend....May 1st & 2nd 2015. Course can be attended individually or consecutively. Day 1 Basic Pistol Application course The BSTA Basic Pistol Application course is designed for the beginner and intermediate pistol shooter who wishes to develop or further enhance reflexive pistol handling skills. These skills increase shooter confidence in tactical situations. The BSTA course also provides shooters with a clear understanding of what can be performed in a...
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M&P Light Primer Strikes

boostercup ·
A while back I bought an Apex kit from Amazon. Because of this I received a question to answer email from Amazon today. I would like to try and answer it just to help out, and also for my edification since I have this trigger kit. Mine works fine; however, the person asking the question has a performance center M&P 9mm and is getting light primer strikes on rounds 3 through 8 from the magazine.
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Low light pistol course by Sparrow Defense

2damnold4this ·
Yesterday, I took a low light pistol course held by Sparrow Defense. [URL="http://www.sparrowdefense.com/defensive-pistol-courses"]link[/URL] There were three instructors and twelve students at the course providing a good student to instructor ratio. When on the firing line, we would shoot in two sections giving a two student to per instructor ratio. The course was held at an outdoor range in Oconee County Ga and ran from 2:00 until 10:30 pm. The rural location was quite dark after the sun...
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Re: BSTA 2 Day Training weekend....May 1st & 2nd 2015. Course can be attended individually or consecutively.

PM07 ·
You should probably post the location as required by the forum rules Sir.
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Re: BSTA 2 Day Training weekend....May 1st & 2nd 2015. Course can be attended individually or consecutively.

Black Skull Tactical ·
Trying to learn the forum site posting..... just missed the location as I moved info over from another post. LOCATION: Will be the Russell County Sheriff Range complex Columbus GA / Ft Benning / .
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Re: Low light pistol course by Sparrow Defense

2damnold4this ·
Part II After returning to the line at dark, each section took their turns repeating the flashlight shooting techniques under the watchful eyes of the instructors. We then shot a Georgia approved Post (peace officer standards and training) low light qualification course which was a first for me. We then shot steel targets again and had a demonstration of different lights in the dark, including weapon mounted lights. Students were then given the opportunity to try different lights, including...
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Re: Low light pistol course by Sparrow Defense

Casey ·
Good review. What were the instructors' backgrounds?
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2damnold4this ·
I'll get that information and get back to you.
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shoobe01 ·
Not that we talked too much about the class, but if I'd known you only had a handheld I would have made you take my X300/DG and XFER to try out for part of it, since I couldn't make the class and it was just sitting there gathering dust.
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Re: Low light pistol course by Sparrow Defense

2damnold4this ·
Casey, Clark's bio page can be found here . I'm still trying to find out about the other two instructors there. SHOOBE01, thanks for your generous offer. I do intend to try some weapon mounted lights as it was obvious that they have some big advantages. I'll take the class again once my tiny brain has processed the things I learned so far.
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Re: M&P Light Primer Strikes

CWM11B ·
Concur with Dorsai, however, do not rule out the simple crud in the striker channel. I've seen it cause this before. Not bad enough to make it do it all the time, but enough to make it sporadic.
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Dorsai ·
CWM11B posted: Concur with Dorsai, however, do not rule out the simple crud in the striker channel. I've seen it cause this before. Not bad enough to make it do it all the time, but enough to make it sporadic. Yeah, that could happen. I've never experienced it, but a lot of shooting, dirty ammo, "weak" striker spring....
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Re: M&P Light Primer Strikes

Doug Mitchell ·
CWM11B posted: Concur with Dorsai, however, do not rule out the simple crud in the striker channel. I've seen it cause this before. Not bad enough to make it do it all the time, but enough to make it sporadic. AHA! A friend is an armorer with his agency, and they are having a significant problem with this (M&P full size 40s). He has found a number of pistols with what appears to be casting crud impeding the striker channel. Any pointers, tps, help, would be appreciated. I suggested that...
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Re: M&P Light Primer Strikes

CWM11B ·
I would first do as you suggested with the new guns. If I could not find any with them, I would try and identify what the material was, i.e. something environmental from the officer's patrol area. If the material is plastic, I would inspect the striker sleeve and see if they had been shaved. If this was the case, I would suspect the striker channels on the affected guns were out of spec (or the striker sleeves were over molded) and on the tight side. Doubtful it is ammunition related from...
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Re: M&P Light Primer Strikes

Erick ·
Sorry for the delay on this ... work interferred. So, after seeing the discussion I decided to check my Glocks and S&W M&Ps with the pencil test. Gen 3 -17, -19 and a Gen 4 -17 all launched the pencil a significant distance above the muzzle, no issues. With the M&Ps, there was one 9C and three 9FS. With the 9C, the pencil's eraser cleared the muzzle. At the best, the metal band that connected the eraser to the pencil cleared the muzzle on each of the 9FS. None of these have had...
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Re: M&P Light Primer Strikes

Dorsai ·
I've got a number of M&P's with Apex kits ranging from the standard to the forward set sear. The kits include a new USB and spring, a trigger spring you may or may not use, a sear, sear spring, and a new trigger on some. None of the Apex kits change out the striker spring or affect the impact of the striker on a primer. The ONLY way that I can think of is if you have opened up the loop on the trigger bar that contacts the sear and you are getting a sear break about the same time the USB...
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boostercup ·
Thanks!
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

Dorsai ·
Having done both in classes, two handed with a WML was at least 200% better. If you do a lot of practice with the handheld light, you can cut that down a bit. If you're using a Harris type grip and indexing back of hand to back of hand, there are still misalignment issues, i.e. your sights and light aren't aligned and you have to grease them in. That's where a lot of practice comes in to play. Reacquiring your sights and light alignment after shooting is still slower than the WML. I have...
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

SFF ·
Might be more effective to: -use a OIS from your agency or nearby as a template course of fire -have folks from you agency representing a cross section of ability levels shoot for time and score using the template course of fire that you developed in the following conditions: daytime 2 handed and 1 handed, lowlight with different flashlight techniques. I would throw in some threat discrimination tasks and maybe a stoppage or force a slide lock reload in there as well. Video the performance...
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

Boots5271 ·
I don't have any stats but it would seem quite obvious that given your parameters (low enough light to need illumination to identify threat and starting with a holstered weapon) that one handed with a seperate flash light would be much quicker and two handed with a weapong mounted light would be more accurate and quicker for follow up shots. So the "whats best?" answer would be highly subjective based off distance, type of call, number of advisaries, actual light level, back up etc.
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RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

SolidCopper ·
Mods, please move this post if I've chosen the wrong sub. Gents, I am looking for actual statistical data relating to the difference in an individual's handgun shooting performance (draw speed/accuracy) when shooting one handed vs. shooting two handed. The specific context is in the use of a weapon mounted flashlight vs a handheld flashlight and pistol. As a firearms instructor, it would never occur to me, either based on my training or on my experience, that a persons using only one hand to...
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

jnc36rcpd ·
Not a naysayer as I wrote the paperwork that got WML's approved by my agency some years ago, but the devil is in the details (and this was a concern I had back in the day). Unless we want people clearing buildings after alarm activations or backyards after prowler calls with pistols aimed wherever they look, cops are going to have to search with handheld lights. What is your doctrine when the devil jumps up on one of these "routine calls"?One-handed shooting with handheld? Harries or another...
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

Boots5271 ·
Exactly, you also have to factor in the manipulation to turn the light on. Draw, turn light on, get 2 handed grip is slower than draw one handed and fire. If you are at bad breath distance speed is more important than 1 inch accuracy.
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

SolidCopper ·
The practical data collection idea being considered. The inclusion of the reload is a great idea. It seems a bit silly to propose that one handed shooting with a handheld light is ever superior to the alternative. Perhaps the lack of a "study" should indicate that there is no question of the superiority of a WML in this context. As a matter of policy, we would require all officers to carry a hand held flashlight for illumination purposes when a drawn weapon is inappropriate/dangerous.
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XTCBX ·
Add in a reload...it sucks with a flashlight in your hand.
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

Blackjack78 ·
I will get you the number for the NYPD range. Ask them about SOP 9. Keep in mind that the ordinary troops don't have weapons mounted lights. I have a few shootings in my time, albeit with revolvers, but in each case it was one handed as the other hand was busy doing something else. It would be nice to have two hands on the gun but sometimes conditions have a say. That said, NO, I'm not advocating one hand over two.
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

Blackjack78 ·
This is the latest report that I'm aware of http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/d...arge_report_2011.pdf
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

Tom Givens ·
This is not a "study", but some measured performance. I wrote this for the IALEFI magazine a few years ago. One Hand or Two? Instinct or Conditioning? by Tom Givens In a recent gun magazine there was an article proposing that drawing a handgun to a one handed shooting position was “instinctive”, and therefore we should be training students to do so as a default technique. Ordinarily, I resist the temptation to respond to this type of article, but this one really irked me. First, I checked my...
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rcbusmc24 ·
I was coming in here to recommend contacting Tom Givens as I figured he would have info related to this topic simply to find out he was already in here. Thanks Tom and yet another example of lightfighter reach.
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Re: RFI - Sources for statistics on accuracy/speed dispairity between one and two handed shooting

LobsterClaw207 ·
Do you guys have flashlights that are easily drawn at speed? A seemingly rarely considered portion of the use of a handheld light with the pistol is how to get it out, or put it away, with any sort of speed. Of course holders like the polymer Surefire one are going to be faster than a leather pouch or strap or whatever.
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Longeye ·
Lobster- I carry a Surefire Lawman R1 in a HSGI Subgun Taco at 7 o'clock beltline. I carry a Surefire EAG Fury in a BFG TenSpeed pistol pouch at 2 o'clock on the cummberbund of my LPAAC- patrol and another same location on my JPC-callout. Ideally, the handhelds would be just aft of my pistol mags on belt line, but... real estate is a reality. That is in addition to the X300U on my pistol and the M600P on my 12.5" carbine. All handheld lights are easily and quickly accessed. Because of the...
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Upgrade Your Safe

tugboat12 ·
The other day I stumbled across these Morpilot lights and they are awesome. While I used to have a bad ass Liberty Safe, Franklin Series, with internal lights and all.... I eventually moved and couldn't lug 1000 lbs. with me. So when I downgraded, I ended up with a smaller lower end Liberty safe. Without any lights... But the solution came to me in these Morpilot lights. They are motion activated, used batteries (no cord going into the safe) and they attach via a adhesive backed magnetic...
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tugboat12 ·
Yes, I think the translation mucks up the water. Pretty sure it is a foreign company. In the video I did, I address this specifically. The lights stay on continuously as long as there is movement. Then, when they go out, soon as they sense movement, they turn back on. No finger tapping needed.
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jcustisredux ·
Good find and review. This snippet at the link had me wondering if you need to physically turn the light on after it shuts off following an extended period of inactivity. I assume that the motion sensing feature is always active, but the sentence is unclear. "Light:It turns on with a tap of your finger and light up when you get within 3 meter of it and will go out 15 seconds after you walk out of its sensing range and turns itself off in several seconds of no movement."
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

Crossed Pistols ·
I would definetly take one of the strobes at either $10 or $18 and a smoke too if offered.
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

Hooahmonster ·
Id be in for 2 at $10, maybe even 2 at $18. If you get to pick color ways other than Multicam I'd be in for coyote or Woodland as a second. HSGI has been producing some of their TACOs in Woodland lately Thanks. It looks like a great pouch.
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

LobsterClaw207 ·
I'd give you $10 for one of these all day, and you might as well put me down for two because I could find somebody to take the other...
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

caldws ·
I could always find a use for one. I'm down if the price is $10. Just let me know when you confirm...
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Malpaso ·
I'd be in for at least one.
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3ACR_Scout ·
I'll ask about the smokes too - I was just looking at those today after reading the discussion about current grenades and thinking that I'd like to get some of those. My impression is that they still have the patterns for these past products but have focused on the TACO design, so they've eliminated those older "conventional" pouches. Personally, I don't really like the "busy" design of the TACO with the elastic cord and everything. Maybe I'm old fashioned... Dave
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

3ACR_Scout ·
Thanks for the feedback. As I said, I'm suspicious about that low price they quoted, so I'll post an update here when I get more info from them, which will include a small amount to distribute their shipping cost per pouch, and then I would calculate postage on an individual basis. They did say that they would need me to confirm how many I intended to order before they could give me a final price quote. Dave
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

Malpaso ·
Gunner posted: I could go for one. I'd love to get a couple of their old smoke grenade pouches, but those are also discontinued. They seem to have ditched several excellent products after Gene sold the company. The smokes were excellent. I use one with my Vortex monocular. Not to add to your load 3ACR_SCOUT, but would they make a run of those as well?
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Gunner ·
I could go for one. I'd love to get a couple of their old smoke grenade pouches, but those are also discontinued. They seem to have ditched several excellent products after Gene sold the company.
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

shoobe01 ·
At that price, I'm probably in for two also. Two rigs, why not? When you clarify the price, ask if custom order is all the same color also. I can live with MC but prefer OD... maybe I can trade you for that OD one you already got if this comes through
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Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

3ACR_Scout ·
Hi folks, It seemed to be a consensus here that the High Speed Gear strobe light pouch is one of the better products out there for a dedicated strobe pouch, but HSGI discontinued it a few years ago, I think as they transitioned to their TACO line. I was hoping to find two Multicam pouches (I did get an OD pouch thanks for another member here), but I've had no luck. Here's the old SKD listing for the pouch: http://www.skdtac.com/HSGI-Strobe-Pouch-Modular-p/hsg.218.htm I contacted HSGI, and...
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

CAMedic ·
I'm in for a pouch. Even cops need strobes.
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Gunner ·
I would be up for two smoke pouches if it gets worked out.
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CRAMBONE ·
For $10 I would be in for two strobe pouches. Maybe some smoke pouches also.
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

krax ·
For $10, why not. I'm in.
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Re: Any interest in a run of HSGI Strobe Light Pouches?

Bigfoot1786 ·
I'm in for two of the multicam pouches.
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