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Re: Para-Ord 1911

libertarian45 ·
Correct me if I'm wrong, but, Para hasn't been a Canadian Co for years. I believe they sold out to US owners and that's when QC went into the toilet. I owned a Canadian-made P14 from '98 - '04 (sold it when I got married along with some other guns....yeah, I know). Worked fine and had no problems. Quality seemed good. That was then. Now all I hear is that they are not recommended.
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lowlight ·
My para's finish looks like it was made in 1911 after a few thousand rounds. No idea on how well it runs out of the box, I bought it knowing it would be a pile and replaced everything with cylinder and slide, jarvis, and dawson stuff the second I got it. Fit and finish is shit, nothing is chamfered, the slide fit is pretty loose, the ejector was installed by a special olympian and moves about 1/8 inch out of the frame at the front, I'm not 100% sure if the stock "match" barrel is even round,...
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Re: Para-Ord 1911

fiveninerone ·
DON'T....I picked up the Canadian forces special hi cap, and it was a piece of shit. I ran mine through over 500 rounds and every mag had a handful of stoppages from mag issues, extractor issues, feed problems. replaced all the magazines and extractor, as well as added base plates as apparently that helped some of my buddies issues and still wouldn't work. The finish on it was poor, it was the coyote brown but you could see where paint had chipped off at the factory and it was covered over.
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Boots5271 ·
I have 2 Para high cap 1911s, both in .40. I have 15 Mec-Gar high cap mags and half a dozen Para high caps. both were made in the 1990s in Canada. Both shoot very well. In fact one of the best shooting days I have had was with one of them. I have a few repalcement parts in both of them over the years but no major overhaul. They do like fresh springs, including in the magazines. When the springs get weak they have some functioning issues. I have been very happy with them. I probably have 25k...
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Para-Ord 1911

grayspider ·
Looking for input on a hi-cap Para Ord, stainless, full size, made in Canada. Reliability issues etc. before I buy it.
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FourNinerZero ·
I have a single stack Para 1911 Nite Tac, its got about 2000rds through it with about 4 stoppages, primarily shit ammo related. Finish is good, no slide drag, wobble or slop. Fits tight, shoots really nice. Far more accurate than I am. Needs regular cleaning and lubing, but thats to be expected. I shot FiveNinerOne's double stack, and side by side its like his and mine were made on different planets. Mine is Made in Canada as well.
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Re: Para-Ord 1911

Boots5271 ·
I haven't personally played with a new on but just to add fuel to the conversation. About a month ago I had occassion to be talking to Remmington Outdoors help line about when one of my Para-Ordnances was made. I had (what seemed like) a knowledgable guy on the phone. He said they don't even have serrial number records for the canadian guns. He said when Para was purchased by Remington the agreement only had records for Para-USA, guns made in the US after Para moved. That only goes back to...
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Re: Para-Ord 1911

shoobe01 ·
My experience ended around 10 years ago. At that point they had started to go downhill on the QA side, and I don't know or don't remember if we knew why. But just before that they were rock solid, generally exceeding the out of box reliability of any other conventional (non-custom) manufacturer, with good and responsive CS no less. How good? Friend had like three IIRC. He got an early very short one (3"?) and it had issues with the nested recoil spring. They didn't just fix it, but...
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Re: Para-Ord 1911

Moustache_6 ·
Perhaps Para has improved in recent years, I don't know. But back in day all of the top 1911 SME pistolsmiths that posted online (Chuck Rogers, Bob Rodgers, John Harrison, John Jardine, Karl Sokol, Larry Vickers, Hilton Yam, and some others I cannot remember) echoed the same negative comments and warnings on Para products. Unfortunately much of the information that those SME's posted has been lost over time at places like pistolsmith forum, 1911forum, 10-8 forum, etc.. Because of those...
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dojpros1998 ·
My first shooting mentor and his 3 bestest shooting buddies were Gunsite guys from the late 70's. They owned over 100 1911s amongst them from the most basic to Chuck Rodgers/ C & S/Ed Brown/Pachmeyr Customs and Wilsons back when Wilson had a hand in every gun that left the shop. IIRC, not one of them owned a Para that would run ever... I hear that Louis Awerbuck (RIP) carried a Para. I also heard that he needed to have 2 to make sure he always had one that worked. I have heard stories...
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Delta Hotel ·
Even back in the mid-late 90's, even Les Baer couldn't get the double stack Paras to run reliably and as such the great pistol search commenced by many. FBI-HRT included and resulting in the selection of the Springfield Armory Pro model from the custom shop being selected for many years. (many articles are avail documenting this) My only experience with a Para was a P14, 1911, that barely ran with new mag springs and had all kinds of malfunctions from day one. This was about Y2k and even...
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UnknownSailor ·
I have a Canadian built P14 that I used in two high round count classes, Thunder Ranch TX and my first Gunsite 250. It ran like a top. About 3 years ago now the grip safety wore a groove deep enough into the trigger bow that I had to replace it. The gun also came with a plastic(!) magazine release that I replaced with an aluminum one. The sear and hammer are both MIM parts, as is the disconnector, and the fit of the grip safety at the back of the frame where the trigger pin is rubs my hand...
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TB ·
I own several. Three are frames I built with quality parts. The work very well, in fact I carry one for self defense. The biggest problem out of the box were the magazine springs. I replaced with wolf extra power and they worked fine after that. When I was home on leave from Iraq, I bought a P18-9. Had extraction problems from the get go.j Even after I sent it back it had problems. Then one day after bitching about it to a fellow IPSC shooter, he said to check the hole the power extractor...
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Re: 1911 light primer strikes

Dorsai ·
A weak firing pin spring would result in harder hits. You're looking at the mainspring on the hammer strut.
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1911 light primer strikes

Red4Golf ·
If my search function is weak I apologize. As the subject indicates my Springfield Operator is experiencing light primer strikes, 4-5 pet 50 rounds. I think I've ruled out ammo, I've tried a couple different brands. I've also stripped the slide and cleaned it. My thought is weak firing pin spring, but I didn't think my round count was to that point. Any other ideas? If the consensus is spring replacement any recommendations? Thanks.
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Bill, Idaho ·
The firing pin mechanics on a 1911 style pistol are pretty straight forward and simple. The hammer (when the shooter decides it's hammer time) should fall at about .35 gazilionths of a second, and strike the firing pin. The firing pin (at rest) should be sticking out from the firing pin retaining plate about 1/32". IT should also move freely in the slide-you should be able to remove the firing pin spring, reassemble the slide, and hold the slide with the front facing down. By its own weight,...
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Re: 1911 light primer strikes

Joe Curnarski ·
You may want to contact Springfield directly and run it past them. They are GTG. I've run a Professional for the last six years with no problems. Mine runs like a sewing machine. I would think there would be little difference from your pistol. When the problem is determined, please post here as inquiring minds want to know. Thanks and good luck.
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Re: 1911 light primer strikes

XTCBX ·
Approximate round count? Could be the mainspring as Dorsai said, 18lb is std? Needs to be changed every +/-20k. Fireing pin is easy to check & rule out. Ammo with hard primers or slightly high primers is generally the other culprit. It it a lightened hammer?
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Re: 1911 light primer strikes

Red4Golf ·
Thanks for the responses and knowledge . The gun has 2000-2500 rounds. The gun is stock w\ the exception of the grips. As I said took the slide apart and cleaned the firing pin, spring, and the channel w\o fixing the problem. I don't see any unusual wear or obvious damage to suggest a bent hammer. Its possible that it wasn't all the way in battery, I can get the hammer to drop with the slide just out of battery but the hammer pushes the slide forward so I cant tell if that's the problem when...
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Re: 1911 light primer strikes

MOJONIXON ·
Wilson Combat makes/sells the Group Gripper.
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Bill, Idaho ·
The energy the hammer is losing by pushing the slide fully into battery is energy that is supposed to be utilized striking the firing pin. Strangest thing: I just now remembered that device that replaces the stock barrel link pin and assists the slide into going to full battery-- a "group gripper, I don't recall who made it. I am thinking this is your problem but I don't know why it wouldn't go into full battery. Decades ago, when I was shooting NRA stuff, a guy was using reloaded ammo that...
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Re: 1911 light primer strikes

SFF ·
Something else to check, though not maybe likely to occur, check the aft end of firing pin to ensure it isn't peening (getting deformed) and then having issues with freely moving through the firing pin stop. Have seen this occur years ago with a Para P14 . . .
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Re: 1911 light primer strikes

MOJONIXON ·
Just remembered, originally the "Dwyer Group Gripper". Not sure if Wilson makes them now or just licenses the product.
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