Tagged With "ARMOR"

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Footwear Armor

Dr. Steven King ·
Aloha, One of the main area's of trauma for puncture and blast wounds is the feet and lower legs and pelvic area. If you know of any existing armored boot or orthotic systems that can help protect these high risk...
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Gear Testers Wanted: new backpack design

Alspak ·
I am looking for gear testers/product feedback in Colorado. I will consider other locations, on a case by case basis. This is unpaid, except the reward of improving gear, and use of the cool new kit. Over the last 2 years I have been developing a new modular load carriage system that is lighter than current equipment, without sacrificing strength. 2 of our users just finished the Thunder beast/ Competition Dynamics 24 hr sniper adventure challenge in NM; their reviews were all positive.
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Looking for a MOLLE carrier suitable for uniform use

LawDogRD10 ·
I need a little help finding a MOLLE armor carrier suitable for uniform use. I'm a K9 handler now and have the leeway to wear one. The one I'm using has some shortcomings and I need to find one that fits my needs and looks decent. Here's what I'm using now. It's got some old panels crammed into it. My current Second Chance panels won't fit in it and it only holds large plates and not my 5x8 trauma plate. Looks like shit with my collar either smashed under it or it sticks way out. L-R is an...
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Mayflower LPAC and Point Blank concealment cut plates

SoTex ·
Need an external carrier that takes issued concealment cut armor (Point blank alpha elite)and can add plates. Swift clips is a plus over molle everything. Mayflower LPAC seems perfect, can't tell if I can get my issued armor in it or not, appears some do and some don't. Anyone have experience with this actual combo or maybe want to recommend another combo? Have a call into Mayflower to find out buy no joy yet.
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XGEP ·
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Rob0811 ·
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flashpoint ·
I'm in the Springs. I hike at least 2x per week, so it'll get plenty of use. If it's tactical-ish colors and I can bust it out at the next FTX and have some guys put it through the ringer as an RTO pack for FO's
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Mike T ·
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Re: Footwear Armor

Dr. Steven King ·
Originally Posted by roso: Bfrboots.com have been around for a while, and their products seem focused on this issue. No first hand impression beyond seeing these at some booth a while back. https://www.bfrboots.com/english/html/bfr_boots.html
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Re: Footwear Armor

Grayman ·
I'm kind of surprised no one makes a boot with a frag rated insole..... A set of Gaiters with even minor ballistic protection could help with frag/shrapnel injury. Maybe youve got yourself a million $ idea here..
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Re: Footwear Armor

standeasy ·
http://www.aigis.co.uk/anti-mine-boots http://www.securityprousa.com/newblprbomib.html http://www.centurion-usa.com/C...ive_Combat_boot.html http://www.blastboxers.com/
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Re: Footwear Armor

roso ·
Bfrboots.com have been around for a while, and their products seem focused on this issue. No first hand impression beyond seeing these at some booth a while back.
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Re: Footwear Armor

Wild_Willie ·
Spider Boots - https://www.med-eng.com/Produc...rotectionSystem.aspx I have actually played around with these a fair bit. A person can RUN in these!
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Re: Looking for a MOLLE carrier suitable for uniform use

JeffM ·
No input regarding actual use, but that appears to be the Point Blank Endeavor, if that helps narrow down your search any. http://www.pointblankenterpris...s-product-sheet2.pdf
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Re: Looking for a MOLLE carrier suitable for uniform use

Buddy507 ·
I currently use one of the Point Blank carriers. It is a little different (better IMO) than the one pictured above. I got mine through Southern Uniform Supply. Pretty good customer service and delivered in 4 weeks, around $400 bucks with pouches. However, pouches that come with it aren't the best.
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Re: Looking for a MOLLE carrier suitable for uniform use

I run you run ·
We wear this, http://www.gharmorsystems.com/...ucts/apb-carrier-apb I like it, only complaint is that the velcro on the sides opens up when breathing heavy or moving around, I added a piece of webbing around the back to keep it together. Most people don't mind it being lose I guess but I can't stand it. I think loose duty belts and in turn lose vest with all the crap on them are a key factor to "back pain". We keep our radio, taser, baton and cuffs on the vest.
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Re: Looking for a MOLLE carrier suitable for uniform use

Longeye ·
That is the PB Endeavor. It is one of the plank holder vest carriers in the RSUC category. (Really Shitty Universal Carrier) My department has issued them for going on three years. They sucked when we first got them, PB's customer service sucked when we returned most of them for improper fit. It still sucked when we returned the "fixed" vest carrierxsfor further fitment problems. And the basic design still sucked at the end of that process. They fly apart when engaged in a fight. They carry...
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Re: Looking for a MOLLE carrier suitable for uniform use

trooper84 ·
Another vote for the Mayflower LPAAC here. I have been wearing mine on patrol for three years now and it has been great. I run mine with BFG ten speed side closures and they work great
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TXsapper ·
I've got one of the Oregon City carriers which I use at work. In regards to wearing it over jackets/winter clothing - what I did was take some four inch elastic, double it up and made an elastic cummerbund which I attach the sides to. I put a piece of Velcro in the middle to keep it from sliding through the channel and Velcro on the ends to attach it to the wings. Allows enough flex for thicker clothing and activity. I like the Mayflower carriers, but don't like the idea of their proprietary...
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Re: Looking for a MOLLE carrier suitable for uniform use

jeremy54b ·
I have one of the GH Armor TRC carriers. It's pretty comfortable, allowed ID panels front and back, good placement of pouches and such and fit soft armor and trauma panels (issued). I did slide my plates in there (10x12") and they fit as well. I was pretty happy with it...until I got fat and couldnt' fit in it any more.
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Big B ·
I'm using the Mayflower LPAAC too and I really like it. I may be getting a Safariland Oregon City to try out too since it has some features that look intriguing.
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jaycannon ·
I have used the Mayflower LPAAC for 5 years. Love it. Tried the LAPD/Oregon City Vest and found the Mayflower to be more comfortable and easier to fit over my jacket when it gets cold. The LAPD/Oregon City requires it to be adjusted to fit over jackets. If that matters to you.
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ty1911 ·
Mayflower LPAAC. I'm a handler as well and am loving the carrier. I can slip plates in when needed and the swift clips are awesome. I've got several different swift clip placards depending what I'm going to be doing and can swap them out quickly. The Mayflower LPAC also works well. I've got several other guys in my unit running them. It's the same carrier as the LPAAC just with out all of the molle. The guys who use them like them and they are less likely to add a bunch of pouches and carry...
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Re: Looking for a MOLLE carrier suitable for uniform use

DirtySanchez ·
http://www.leedway.com/Safaril...r-Carrier-p/ocac.htm We use these. No molle on the back. It holds your panels. It has 2 chest, top entry zip pockets (you can see the slits in the pic). I have one, and I dig it. Just communicate as to what your panels for your armor are so you can fit it right, but, mine works with my old vest and my new armor. It has a drag strap on back. It can take BIG plates, but, I have not put any in mine, nor have I tried to. It has an internal pocket for a bug, set...
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Re: Mayflower LPAC and Point Blank concealment cut plates

SoTex ·
Thanks. Talking to beez and they are making me w what I want. Customer service to this point had been excellent.
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Re: Mayflower LPAC and Point Blank concealment cut plates

weaver1032 ·
I recall Mayflower doing custom LPAAC in the past. Beeze Combat Systems does similiar custom work and has been positively reviewed here in the past.
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Re: Has anyone seen this?: Wraith Tactical C.A.R.R. Pack

99superduty ·
So lets see..... Joined yesterday.....check Didn't post an intro.......check Asks about an obscure product on first post.......check From North Augusta, SC which is an hour from the business you are asking about....check Listed occupation, distribution......check Smells fishy to me.....
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Re: Has anyone seen this?: Wraith Tactical C.A.R.R. Pack

NorthernPhoenix ·
I'll play along... Contact me privately and send me one for evaluation (federal LE). You couldn't pick a more diverse group of crazy guys who know how to punish gear and are accustomed to evaluating new products. Observations will be posted on LF forums somewhere as deemed appropriate. Cheers.
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Has anyone seen this?: Wraith Tactical C.A.R.R. Pack

dxlxuxx ·
Apparently it's a go-bag that converts into a plate carrier with a deployable IFAK in the back. Does anyone know anyone who has one of these? I have questions about its functionality.
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Re: Has anyone seen this?: Wraith Tactical C.A.R.R. Pack

pointblank4445 ·
First, read the rules and make an introductory post so we know where you're coming from/who you are. I can not speak to that product specifically, but generally the products that converts from "X" into a "Y" don't do either task well. The "Jack of all/master of none" concept at work. Remember the Blue Force Gear T.A.S.K. (tactical active shooter kit) bag ? No?... If not, there's probably a reason why... I see the same for bags that try to bridge between a duffel and have shoulder straps to...
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Rifle Plates/Manufacturers/Distributors - What We Should Know Before Purchasing

HighwayMan93 ·
As you all know, Doc and other sources of knowledge on this subject have stressed that there are actually only a few manufactures of plates and there has been plenty discussion regarding various plate options and promotional offers when they are available. Many companies advertising the same or similar options in the level 3 and 3+ category appear to have prices outrageously marked up, and trying to compare plates from one companies to the next can be a nightmare. Specs for the same plates...
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Re: Rifle Plates/Manufacturers/Distributors - What We Should Know Before Purchasing

HighwayMan93 ·
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Personally Owned Body Armor vs Department Issue

georgiaditchdoc ·
I’ve been doing some research lately, and not finding any answers, about the use of personally purchased body armor vs department issued. I was asked a question about benefits and workers compensation in regards to this question. The officer that asked the question wanted to know if benefits or workers compensation could be denied or reduced to an officer/family if they choose to wear their personally purchased body armor. I know a number of people choose or have to buy their own rifle...
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K.O.A.M. ·
From a purely legal standpoint, I would start by analyzing as to whether the personally owned armor would have somehow contributed to causing the injury or the severity of the injury. I would then see if the issued armor could be shown to have prevented the injury or reduced its severity. If one could show that the issued armor was somehow superior to the personally owned and would have prevented or reduced the severity of the injury, I think it would be a potential problem when it comes to...
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Re: Personally Owned Body Armor vs Department Issue

gb88 ·
Our policy states we are authorized to wear department issued or our own equivalent armor.
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steveg2 ·
First issue is whether the issue was due to armor failure. Or if the issued armor covers that part of the body. Say a Team Wendy helmet fails, ere you even issued a helmet?
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exSquid ·
I would think that HR is the wrong source to answer this question. I would ask your legal department. The fact is that if you are denied benefits, you or your estate are going to end up addressing it in court, therefore I would think that legal would have a better understanding of the issue. x/S
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JW104 ·
I forgot to add, don't forget to out the HR person as the one who started this whole mess.
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georgiaditchdoc ·
Thanks for the answers thus far. Just to clarify in case I wasn't clear in the initial post. There has not been an incident that I am aware of or involved in with this inquiry. An officer who wanted to beef up his protection was referred to the HR person with the question. HR told him there would be no benefits, or a reduction in benefits, if he used his own armor regardless if the rating was higher or not. In this particular instance, officers are issued level II soft armor and level III or...
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JW104 ·
It sounds like HR is guessing, or passing bad info. Remember all of the bullshit going around about how SGL I would not pay benefits if you didn't have a seatbelt on, or if you smoke, or other such nonsense? Have them cite a specific regulation, rule, law or policy that says that in writing, not just some HR person's interpretation. If they can produce that, ask for a copy. Then let them know you were going to run it by your civil attorneys and union to look at recourse for them not allowing...
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Re: Personally Owned Body Armor vs Department Issue

jw917 ·
Sounds like the Legal unit, Training/Firearms unit, and Quartermaster/Supply unit need to get together to recommend a formal standpoint or policy. In my department, we are only issued level 2 soft armor (albeit nice, certified level 2 armor) except for specialized units such as SWAT. Our training unit is pretty good and has been advocating for guys to be prepared with plates, carriers, etc. So, although there is no formal policy, to my knowledge, the accepted, official standpoint is you are...
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Erick ·
OhMyMuthaFuckingGawd, do we ever frikkin' need a Snopes for Command Staff. Forrest Whittaker eye? I now have two. Maybe, just maybe, if an agency has a mandatory wear policy covering a very specific make/model maybe they might be able to get away with this. When I read the OP, my very first thought was the SGLI / IBA drama from mid-2000s. That died out pretty quick. There were, however, justifiable concerns about troops ditching armor that would stop frag being replaced with Level II...
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georgiaditchdoc ·
Thanks to all for the ideas, the insight and the responses thus far. They are all greatly appreciated.
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Re: RFI on a White in Color Concealable Plate Carrier and Lightweight Level III+ Plates.

FastSS ·
I wish the SKD LVBC came in white... Regarding plates: http://www.tyrtactical.com/pro...r-level-3-i-c-plate/ They're a touch over 4lbs, but they also stop things the SPPs won't while still being thin. ETA: I have 10x13s. They're 5.25lbs WITH backers. Forgot to get a weight WITHOUT backers. Oops. 0.70" at the thickest, 0.60" once you're far enough into the middle that the cover stops overlapping.
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Re: RFI on a White in Color Concealable Plate Carrier and Lightweight Level III+ Plates.

montgomerygentryFan ·
I'm looking to get a custom carrier to put into my outer vest carrier for work and will be hitting up Beez as well. Our department issues Second Chance vests that have two front pockets (standard 5"x8" and 7"x9"). I have the (Safariland) Protech IMPACT RT + 7"x9", but when inside the vest since I have one it's front heavy as hell. Ideally I'd like to use my armor hangar since my locker is kind of small but using steel conflicts with that. Talking with a few guys who went the Dyneema route...
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RFI on a White in Color Concealable Plate Carrier and Lightweight Level III+ Plates.

MOLON_LABE ·
I currently work as a Contracted Armed Security Professional for the U.S. Govt. I am issued a concealable Level IIIA vest that is white in color. The carrier has to be white in order to be worn on duty. Due to the cultural climate and general attitude towards uniformed persons carrying a gun and wearing a badge I have decided I would like to up armor myself with Level III +/Special Threat plates. My issued armor carrier cannot accommodate hard plates of any decent size, (it has the heart...
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Re: RFI on a White in Color Concealable Plate Carrier and Lightweight Level III+ Plates.

Sinister ·
Beez can handle the carrier. You'll probably want a polyethylene/Dyneema plate set.
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Re: RFI on a White in Color Concealable Plate Carrier and Lightweight Level III+ Plates.

SFF ·
Another vote for the Tyr HA 3/7 Plates. I have the 10x12 size. $340 each plate is the good guy price. IIRC, mine are 3.7 lbs and with the cordura cover, about 0.7" thick. Could you have a tailor modify your existing armor carrier to fit plates?
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Re: RFI on a White in Color Concealable Plate Carrier and Lightweight Level III+ Plates.

MOLON_LABE ·
I could, but then I would get charged for the cost of the vest at turn in time. How did you swing the $340 price point? Everything Im seeing is closer to $400 apeice before taxes and shipping.
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