AAR Redback One’s Advanced Weapons Manipulation, King County, Wash. 11-12 July 2014

Redback One conducted its two-day Advanced Weapons Manipulation clinic about three months ago (yeah, yeah, I know) at a discrete law enforcement range in King County, Wash. It was a closed course with about a dozen students, which included federal agents, local tactical officers and Air Force TACP specialists.

 

The course focuses on improving carbine and pistol skills for Close Quarters Battle (CQB). Close quarters is the most difficult environment to work in, according to RB1’s Director of Training Jason Falla, a 12-year veteran of Australian SASR.

 

Things quickly get complicated in small rooms, especially in the dark and when rescuing hostages, noted Jason, who led both days of instruction. Swiftly and efficiently disrupting the target is critical, so Jason tested us frequently throughout the course.

 

As you might imagine, two days offers a lot of time for testing. And all of the tests are timed.

 

WX

 

Weather was sunny both days, with the temperature peaking at 90°F (32°C). Hydrating was key, and so was sunscreen. Tap-Rack Tactical Actual (a.k.a. Bill Blowers; a.k.a. Lightfighter’s 45&223) got ferociously sunburned, but the red neck suited him (see right).

 

Guns and Gear

 

Lots of different guys ran lots of different guns. Optics were Aimpoint, EOTech and Trijicon. My LWRC IC-Enhanced ran beautifully -- but, man, that left-handed magazine release is sensitive! I dig the serenely simple Proctor Sling. And my Surefire MINI was so quiet that Jason’s timer had trouble picking up my shots.

 

But most important for these two days was probably the WXP Hydration System 2L reservoir on my plate carrier. Each day I drank down both liters way before quittin’ time. Luckily I had other water bottles waiting in the wings.

 

My old Arc’teryx combat shirt (see left) was fantastic, thanks to its pit zips. The air wasn’t cool that day, but the breezes under my arms sure felt that way!

 

And rivaling the Crye Precision G3 Combat Pant as my favorite, the Triple Aught Design Force 10 RS Cargo Pant is just as comfortable, almost as mobile and far more discrete -- even with the 3L+ T-Pro Pads. Plus the two front hand pockets are in a better position to carry folding knives and flashlights under a belt-mounted pistol at 3 or 9 o’clock.

 

Still tried and true was my First Spear Strandhögg SAPI Cut Plate Carrier, which I love. But I’ve replaced the uncomfortable -- and shifty -- shoulder pads with LBT Removable Shoulder Pads; I’m a big fan of those!

 

The HSGI TACO is still my go-to magazine pouch because, among other things, it’s good for tactical reloads -- the mag stuffs right back into the pouch. But a timed test against guys using dump pouches left me in the dust. So I’m thinking of adding a dump pouch directly under my front plate, below the mag pouches, which seems to work well for Jason (see below right).

 

Class Mix

 

Most important: Everyone was safe. It was a fun group; nobody passed out from the heat; and everyone seemed to work well together.

 

A few of the TACP guys seemed to be new to that duty, so not all of them were particularly familiar with speedy employment of carbines and pistols. But all of the LEOs were switched on like Donkey Kong the entire time.

 

Plan of the Day

 

TD1: We jumped right in with the Operator Readiness Test, which -- you guessed it -- was timed. The test is no joke, but Jason and Bill went the extra mile by shooting this bad boy wearing a gasmask.

 

Side Note: I love starting courses cold because real life doesn’t give you an opportunity to warm up. That’s why you’ve got to start strong.

 

“The first shot in a gunfight is a game-changer,” Jason said. So you want it to be a good one, as opposed to a flesh wound that gives your opponent a chance to counter. “It’s like a punch to the arm instead of one to the jaw.”

 

We spent much of the course shooting from the often maligned high-ready position (see left), which I first used as a Navy SWCC. The high-ready scares a lot of shooters, but I think it’s because they don’t understand it. Jason championed the position’s many uses, such as fighting, nonverbal communications and situational awareness.

 

Something else I agree with Jason on: If your carbine stops functioning at close quarters -- it never matters why -- always transition to your pistol. You can change the mag or fix the malfunction later.

 

Stoppage!” is something handy that Jason advocates saying when you’ve got a dead trigger. It cues the transition -- and helps prevent brain farts of the variety that I had: I’d gotten so focused on running the carbine during one drill that I failed to transition, conducting an emergency reload instead (cue palm to forehead).

 

Fun Fact: Transitions are often necessary because enemy fire has disabled the carbine, according to Jason.

 

But in that fateful space between carbine-in-hand and pistol-in-hand, your opponent may rush you. Your transition shouldn’t take longer than two seconds, but an adversary can often close a 21-foot (five-meter) distance before you can present your pistol.

 

Within that integrated combat range, blade your support side toward the rushing attacker while turning your weapon side away (see right). Dominate the opponent’s throat with your support hand while keeping your weapon (pistol, knife, etc.) in the fight -- and taking your adversary out of the fight.

 

The next drill we shot focused on better developing our sense of time by shooting six rounds in six seconds. Running too slow is advantageous for the opponent, but running too fast can lead to trigger stall. So Jason advocates never shooting at your limits in combat; rather always keep 10 percent in reserve.

 

“We have to run the gun without the gun running us,” Jason said. “Put the bullets where they will disadvantage the bad guy.”

 

TD1 ended with what we commonly call malfunction drills (failure to extract, double feed, bolt override, etc.), but Jason prefers to call these incidents stoppages.

 

“Guns don’t malfunction,” Jason said. “They stop working.”

 

TD2: We started TD2 with a heaping helping of drills. The goal was to shoot everything under the par time and with absolutely no misses. Distances, targets and number of rounds changed with each drill -- but they were all timed.

 

You can leave this class as I did: with a lot of data to help measure you improvement. It’s very similar to leaving one of Bill’s Tap-Rack courses.

 

The lesson on shooting from behind barricades (see left) included a discussion of different building types, as well as cover and concealment. We mainly focused on (1) staying squared to the target even behind cover, (2) keeping the proper foot forward when shooting around cover and (3) bending at the waist to minimize the target that you present to your opponent.

 

Barricade shooting continued with bilateral shooting drills, switching from dominant-side to support-side shooting. Things got really fun when we started to clear stoppages from on our support side -- after having dispatched all threats with our pistols, of course.

 

When reacting to threats on your left or right (following John Boyd’s OODA loop), Jason recommends pivoting on the balls of your feet. Confront threats behind you by thrusting your carbine’s stock under your weapon-side arm and using the momentum to pivot, ending up in an athletic and dominant stance.

 

We ended our range time the same way we began it on TD1: with the Operator Readiness Test. I’ll say more about that at the end of Lessons Learned.

 

Lessons Learned

 

Be deadly with what you have. Jason looks at the carbine as a big pistol, and he sees the pistol as a small carbine. The only major differences between an AR and a Glock are the safety and bolt catches. So you can run them -- and fix their stoppages -- in about the same ways. Your primary weapon is whatever you’ve got: carbine, pistol, knife or just your hands.

 

Instead of a “workspace” or “shooter’s box,” Jason goes “palm up” to change a magazine or fix a stoppage (see right -- note the gasmask). And it makes more sense: Putting your weapon hand palm up in front of your face positions the weapon where it needs to be for you to both fix your gun and keep your eyes on the battlefield.

 

This course finally broke me out of my pre-optic, iron-sight-only mentality of running my stock far back. My optic is far forward on my carbine, and my stock is now all the way forward on the buffer tube. It’s a better balance for the gun anyway.

 

The bilateral shooting technique that RB1 and Tap-Rack Tactical advocate has converted me from the shoulder bump. But that’s required changes to my shooting and to my carbine to make my light and lasers accessible from both sides. So far, so good.

 

This course rekindled my love of high-ready position. It makes a lot of instructors nervous, and some ranges, shoothouses and instructors forbid it. But as I’ve mentioned before on Lightfighter, there’s a time and place for both high-ready and low-ready positions.

 

And finally, there’s timing (see left). My times on the TD2 Operator Readiness Test weren’t quite as good as they were at the start of TD1. That really ticked me off -- until I realized that my accuracy had improved!

 

Accuracy is final. Now I’ve just got to work on getting that time down.

 

“That’s the great thing about shooting,” Jason said at the end of the course, “you can always improve.”

 

My other AARs include:

 

Tap-Rack Tactical’s Tactical Pistol Course, Kent, Wash. 21-22 April 2014

 

LMS Defense Carbine Course, King County, Wash. 17 Dec 2013

 

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Original Post

Good question, FireGuy!

 

The big pro to a front-mounted dump pouch is that you don't reach out of your way -- to your side or all the way behind you -- to ditch your magazine. Instead your hand goes pretty much where it's going anyway, i.e., your front-mounted magazine pouches.

 

In the case of a tactical reload, it's a bit faster than reorienting the partial magazine and replacing it in the far magazine pouch. It took precious extra time to execute that maneuver during the drill mentioned above.

 

A big con for this configuration is that shorter guys will have magazines banging against their junk. And everyone -- tall and short -- will feel the pain when they go prone with an other-than-empty dump pouch in that location.

 

For the record, I still prefer to place a partial magazine in an easily accessible pouch following a tactical reload. But I like having the option to do something even faster if the situation dictates.

In response to a private message from a friend who couldn't access a hyperlink above, the shoulder bump is a method of bilateral carbine shooting in which neither the weapon nor support hand leaves the gun. Rather, the shooter just bumps the stock from one shoulder to the other.

 

Pro: It's fast, simple and your hands never leave fire control.

 

Con: It's not very stable for long range engagements or shooting on the move. Plus I always have to switch my selector to fire when I initiated a shoulder bump; my thumb couldn't actuate the safety lever when the stock was on my support shoulder. Finally, I wasn't able to get the stock to land consistently on my support shoulder, even with lots of practice; most times it worked, but the few times it didn't work happened often enough that I was willing to try another way.

 

The method that RB1's Jason Falla and Tap-Rack Tactical's Bill Blowers advocate involves completely changing over the carbine, ending up with a kind of mirror image of your normal shooting hand positions. It's much more stable and consistent -- and it's pretty to easy to get the hang of.

 

The key is in the control point, e.g., the front of your AR's magazine well. Rather than confuse you with a written explanation, this video shows Jason switch shoulders at about 1:26 and several times thereafter.

 

Happy ambidextrous hunting, everyone!

Really good AAR and I dont have much to add. Jason is a competent instrucotr and ran the range very well. I did grab a few takeaways, one of those was his explanation of a 90 degree turn. Never heard it put in those terms, but as a cop it gave me a line for consistency with body mechanics on an arm bar. Easy for most dudes to grasp since they have likely taken a lot of dudes to the deck in their career.

 

Kevin - I also switched my Dump pouch after the class, I currently have it riding my groin flap. I had it set like that on the joint mission we did out of your house a month ago. In addition to the benefits Bugstomper mentioned, it also gets it off my ass if Im stuck waiting for a vehicle takedown/assault while sitting in a tinited mini van. In addition, I sue the dump pouch on slow clears as a grab bag for wedges/nylon webbing/robot and /or controller and this allows me to see it rather than feel for it. I do NOT use it for tac loads, those have stayed the same. 

 

Good class and I like the concept of the ORT, quick and easy to run and it shows a lot of skillsets. And my neck is always that red......

Thanks, Bill. You make a lot of good points too.

 

Again, I don't plan on changing the way I do tactical reloads either. The dump pouch under the front magazine pouches just keeps another door open.

 

The Operator Readiness Test does indeed cover a lot of bases. My only beef with it is that you've got to rush your pistol back to the holster. No matter how anyone feels about searching and assessing, I couldn't bring myself to race to the holster -- and I can live with the time penalty.

 

Instead, I'd like to see the time stop after the 12th pistol shot. The shooter could still reload the carbine and shoot two rounds with it, but there wouldn't be pressure to sheath the pistol so flippin' fast.

 

Or maybe there could be a split between the 12th pistol shot and the final carbine shot? I'm open to suggestions.

 

And before I get inundated with replies: Yes, I've read Mike Pannone's take on drills and tactics. I just like to keep things the same wherever possible. 

Sorry I missed it (and the LAV class) this year, I won't be letting that happen again.

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Bloody good AAR Bugstomper!
Thank you for posting mate.

I'd love to do some training under Jason, but that's not possible here in the Nanny State.
One of my old Troop Commander's (an expat relocated in Texas) managed to get on one of his courses and really valued the training.

Now that I have broadband access piped into my home, I'm going to be watching Jason's videos. It's really nice to see drills that fit the framework of what I've been taught before, something that's often lacking for some drills from you 'Muricans

Hell, even as I think/type the word "stoppage" I have an uncontrollable urge to TILT, COCK, LOCK, LOOK and change mags on an F88...
It certainly does aid in focussing the mind wonderfully.
I noticed with my own drills years ago that performance was slower and lackluster when I didn't say the "go" word.

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Yeah, Jason has fairly robust presence on YouTube, 22F. But there's nothing like face-to-face instruction!

 

One of the great things about Lightfighter is that it helps keep cultural exchanges going between international allies, as well as between military and law enforcement. Like the high-ready position, I've found that saying -- or yelling -- "stoppage" really helps keep my head in the game.

 

I hope that you get to attend an RB1 course one of these days. Just don't forget your "go" word in the meantime! 

Thanks for the AAR DJ, it was great to get out there and run some training for you guys. 

I just wanted to clarify a couple of points that have been discussed here in relation to the positioning of the dump pouch, the bilateral shooting method and the re-holstering of the pistol during the ORT.

1. Postion of the dump pouch. The dump pouch is not primarily used during the sequence of performing a tactical reload. It can be used but when time permits, the partial magazine should be placed back in the magazine pouch in the furthest to access pouch. The dump pouch is used for empty magazine for the most part when employed over seas where nothing should be left on the battle field / target. During domestic counter terrorism operations we own the ground and can recover magazines during the re-org phase. The dump pouch can be used for evidence collection, storage of additional equipment that cannot be carried on the man such as extra flashbangs, explosive charges and initiation sets. It also has storage or chem lights. In addition to its use as a dump pouch we use it to store the gas mask during an assault. The bag can be rolled up and stored under the front of the armor carrier or the back depending on your preference.

2. Bilateral Shooting Method. The Redback One Shooting System is based around several key principles and and one of those is the continued use of the 'Control Point' of the weapon. This is indeed the area that consists of the magazine well and forward rail interface. Using both sides of the body in a truly ambidextrous fashion provides more flexibility, particularly during a CQB clearance. I see too many people using the bump method having to change the stock position or as mentioned can not access the safety catch. For LE where an officer must PID a target before the safety catch is disengaged, well this just won't work. The 'Control Point' allows for a complete change over of the weapon without breach of safety and allows the user to quickly and efficiently make the change once the need has been identified. This will allow the user to conduct a more thorough clearance giving him full range of movement during the clearance. 

This positioning of accessory controls such as lights and laser pads/switches must be taken into consideration as well as the positioning of such items on the rails. Without thorough preparation, be prepared to suck! 

3. Re-holstering of the Pistol during the ORT. The ORT was designed as a weapons handling drill to test the individual proficiency in specific skills required by every operator. The test has also been designed for individuals that are part of a team that conduct CQB. Re-holstering quickly is essential during CQB in order to maintain momentum of the assault. If an operator has changed over from the carbine to the pistol during a dynamic room clearance, he will continue to clear on that weapon until such time as the entire room has been cleared. At that time he will notify his team-mate that he needs to recover back to his primary weapon. In order to keep up with the assault the operator must reholster as fast as possible so that he can exit the room or be part of the clearance of the next room. Typically he will be relegated to rear until such time as he has rectified his stoppage and has his primary weapon back up. That is why the ORT has been designed that way.

If you are interested in individual skills such as a patrol officer on his own or if you have be separated from your patrol and find yourself on your own. You should then perform the 'Individual Protection Drill - IPD'. Similar to the 'Recovery Drill' previously mentioned but the individual will not put the pistol away, instead he/she will bring it to the high ready and use it for inherent protection while the carbine is brought up using the support hand and a visual inspection of the chamber is performed. Once the stoppage has been identified and cover has been sought if required, the pistol can then be returned to the holster that the stoppage on the primary weapon can be rectified. 

So to be clear, there are two drills. One for team based tactics, the 'recovery drill' and the other for individual operating on their own, the 'IPD'.

The ORT was designed for team based tactics.

So hopefully that clears up any doubtful points from the AAR or points brought up by those that have commented.

Once again it was a pleasure to have worked with you guys and look forward to future training.



Jason Falla

Director of Training
REDBACK ONE
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www.redbackone.com 
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“We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school.”
Thucydides

I'm nobody special, but I have contemplated "speed holstering" of late too. Sometimes at our tactical team training we do pistol dry fire, and it inherently turns into a game of "how fast can we get XX reps in". Stupid, I know. 

 

I hated hate hate hated how some people speed holster so they can prep for the next "threat!" or "gun!" call. I'd barely get the hood back up on my holster and they'd be calling the next rep.

 

Thinking about it from a police officer's view, what if I've got my pistol out and somebody runs at me with empty hands? I'd rather be able to toss my pistol in the holster fast to grab another tool or strike.  Just another point of view with regards to holstering speed.

 

 

 

 

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Great AAR on LMS and RB1.  Thank you.

 

In LMS you used PWS, but in RB1 you used a suppressed LWRC.  Why the change?

 

I'm asking because I use a suppressed PWS Mod 1 and love the weight and long stroke design.  Lately I've been looking at LWRC because it has the ambi controls and an easier to quickly adjust gas block which I see as a plus with QD suppressors.

 

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You're welcome, Bluemonday. And thank you for choosing my topic for your first reply on Lightfighter!

 

You guessed my answer, bro. I loved my PWS, but I primarily shoot carbines left-handed. So shooting with my quick-detach Surefire MINI suppressor -- but without an adjustable gas bock -- choked me out.

 

Seriously. Within a round or two.

 

There is no such trouble with the proper setting on my LWRC IC-Enhanced.

 

None of the M4 carbines that SOCOM ever issued me were ambidextrous, so I was accustomed to sucking that up. But LWRC's fully ambidextrous lower is icing on the cake, I love it!

 

Have fun and be safe at your EAG Tactical clinics in December, Bluemonday! I took Pat's Shoot House and CQB Operations courses last year, learned a ton and had a blast!

Good stuff.

Jason,

A question reference tactical reloads and placement of:

What are you guys doing with multiple partial magazines? Are you able to designate which magazine has more rounds and bump them accordingly while working in a CQB environment?

Our TACSOP was partial magazines in dump pouches, and consolidate ammunition during Re-Org. While this ensured you never reloaded with a partial magazine when you needed a full magazine, drawback to this was a mixed bag of partial magazines if you needed to dip into them and not knowing what you were gonna get. Windowed magazines helped in that regard, but it wasn't the 100% answer we were looking for.

Empties went in cargo pockets.

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Mick,

 

It really depends upon the mission at hand as that will drive equipment needs and can for the most part predict time on target. The force protection assets that have been assigned to the task may also play a part with regards to equipment and ammunition carried by each individual.

Depending on what Unit you are with may dictate personal equipment and load out. I see a lot of people running with about 4 mags, three on the man and one on the gun for in and out jobs. I personally believe that each mag should be contained within its own pouch, that way you won't have to worry about a partial stacked with a full mag in the same pouch. That being said, a partial should always go in behind the furthest full mag when double stacked so all full mags are at the front and you should work from furthest to closest. 

During break contacts, partial or empty mags will go to the same location, dump pouch or down the shirt for patrol operations and like you had mentioned, re-set when the patrol is firm and secure. 

For CQB and prosecuting a single target, there would be very few occasions that team members would expend front line ammo during the assault phase. To that end, partials can be placed back into the vest pouches during the re-org phase and prior to a back clearance. However, if there is a period of consolidation during the fight through, it would behove individuals to conduct a tactical reload when they have the opportunity. For example, when conducting CBRNE operations there should be frequent periods of consolidation to ensure there are no tears or holes in suites or hoses. This is typically done using buddy checks, perfect time for tactical reloads if you have partial mags. 

If the there are multiple targets in a complex of buildings then urban warfare SOP's may be applied and personnel may be required to carry more ammunition and more equipment i.e., ladders, explosives, more frags, double front line ammo etc. During these types of operations where fighting may surge then slow, allows time for squared away personnel or 2IC's to ensure that ammo is managed and topped up. Placing partials inside of dump pouches is not wrong by any means and I too place empties in cargo pockets.

At the end of the day, no one is really going to tell you that you're wrong if you getting the job done right! Having the dump pouch on the front provides the team member with flexibility and a quick and easy way of placing a partial mag in under stress and recovering mags without having to be at full ROM of joints just to get to them.

Our Dump pouch has the ability to roll up and out of the way when not needed, it also has a velcro closer at the top together with a draw cord and barrel lock. It can fit store chemlights with elastic sewn in and can hold about 5-7 mags. It's made from 500 denier nylon and is available in several colors.

I hope that answers your question. 

Jason Falla

Director of Training
REDBACK ONE
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www.redbackone.com 
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I have a few questions. When do you put empty mags in the dump pouch? during a fast reload? don't you throw empty mags to the ground? do you have spare loose ammo with you to fill empty mags later?

I guess empty mags are useless unless you prevail, so if you are there after the engagement (i.e. you are winning the fight) and you have the chance you will pick up empty mags from the ground to return them to Logistics guys or to fill them if you have spare ammo (maybe a chance if you have a vehicle). If you don't have the chance then you will leave empty mags behind in the ground, because keeping empty mags won't be your main concern if you have to perform fast reload. Does it make sense? I am just thinking loud.

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Re ready positions, do you use just high ready or there is a time for low ready and a time for high ready? do you use the same with pistol than with rifle?

What about high port, full sabrina, or whatever you want to call it to having muzzle up with rifle or handgun almost vertical? Just asking because some guys use that here when in the stack if you are not the leading guy.

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Jason,

Thanks for the insight and in depth explanation with reasoning and methodology.

I had hoped to be at your carbine course in VA Beach this month but a knee injury curtailed that.

I'll see you on down the road when it heals up, and look forward to learning from you.

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generally speaking there is enough time during land warfare or urban operations to take cover and stow an empty into your dump pouch. This is normally because you would be attacking the enemy with a numerically superior force and you weapon may only represent a small percentage of the overall firepower of the force element.

I have on several occasions carried loose ammunition in zip lock bags in my go-bag/ assault pack in case we got caught on an objective longer than anticipated and therefore could reload magazines in place with the need for an aerial resupply which would take time to co-ord and even longer to arrive.

If working in vehicles then yes, you would feed off of the vehicle first and if bumped you would have front line ammo on the man.

With regards to ready positions. I use high ready a lot during training as most of our students are familiar with the low or a variation there of. So we rep. out high ready a lot during the training. That being said, we train our students for a purpose, and the purpose is either CQB or Home Defense. In both cases there is a need to Integrated Combat or fighting skills with weapons. The high ready is the preferred entry ready position during close quarters combat. The low ready is an option too and should not be over looked and an entry can be easily performed from this position but does not allow for offensive counter measure during a CQB collision or fight and Immediate Action drills may need to be applied.

I use the high ready primarily with the pistol as it keep the front post right in line with the shooting eye, it provides the user with an offensive capability and protects the head and heck from attack.

I use the high port during land warfare and break contact drills where there is a need to conduct a rapid and blind turn and conduct weapons manipulation while on the move/run. 

With regards to ready positions in a stack, the high ready is preferred for the provisos reasons if you are not the number one. However, you will during a dynamic entry break to high ready when crossing the threshold to clear the immediate threat zone.

Hope that answers your questions.
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by mohican:
I have a few questions. When do you put empty mags in the dump pouch? during a fast reload? don't you throw empty mags to the ground? do you have spare loose ammo with you to fill empty mags later?

I guess empty mags are useless unless you prevail, so if you are there after the engagement (i.e. you are winning the fight) and you have the chance you will pick up empty mags from the ground to return them to Logistics guys or to fill them if you have spare ammo (maybe a chance if you have a vehicle). If you don't have the chance then you will leave empty mags behind in the ground, because keeping empty mags won't be your main concern if you have to perform fast reload. Does it make sense? I am just thinking loud.

Thanks.

 

Jason Falla

Director of Training
REDBACK ONE
Jason@redbackone.com
www.redbackone.com 
Subconscious Weapons Manipulation Cold and on Demand®
“We must remember that one man is much the same as another, and that he is best who is trained in the severest school.”
Thucydides

Jason, thanks a lot for taking the time to answer so thoroughly. I really appreciate it.

Just a doubt. Which ready position with pistol and rifle do you use if you are not the number one in the stack? high port? SUL?

I wish I could attend training there.

Thanks for your help.

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