Glock 43

I used a pair of channel locks with a rag to protect the mag from the jaws. Saw it on you tube. This was for 17 mags to add a +3 extension and spring, I am ASSuMEing they are contructed the same.

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I know some of you guys complained about the trigger and swapped out the connector.

It appears Glock changed the connector out for one stamped "33564" stamped on it. Does anyone know if this fixes the complaints with the trigger?

Joined: 3/27/09          Location: Back in MA for now

My wife and I each have a G-43 and G-42. The 33564 connector helped on both of our G-43's but on only her G-42. My G-42 was one of the very first ones produced and has always had a heavier trigger pull than most all other G-42's I have tried.

TNYankee posted:

I appreciate the desire to ensure your 43 is ready for serious use, but don't overthink what the gun is, or what it can do. For a deep concealment or back-up, I don't think drop free mags are needed, or even desired. I'm not worried about night sights on a pocket pistol that most likely will be used at very personal distances. I'm just saying that the gun as is will do just fine in the intended role. It's not for gunfighting, it's for saving your ass, ideally in 7 rounds or less. Shoot it a bunch before tricking it out.

Thanks, I'm definitely keeping those factors in mind, but I put a lot of thought and analysis into any firearm purchase.  I haven't bought a pistol in 9 years, I think, and I have a pretty small collection to begin with, so each addition is pretty carefully thought out.  Night sights are a no-brainer for me, both because I just prefer to have them for reference in low light, and because I don't care for the standard Glock sight picture.  The factory sights only add about $50 to the cost of the Blue Label G43, which is still less than the normal price for one with standard sights. I'm certainly not in a hurry to add aftermarket parts, but I also like to standardize things between similar pistols (e.g. G17, G19, and G43).

I've fire both the Shield and G43, but not in the same session (my local range only lets you rent one at a time).  I stopped by the shop a couple days ago and asked to handle both of them side by side, and I immediately noticed the difference in the two grips.  The Shield grip is a little bigger in terms of the distance between the front and back straps, and I found that my hand just fits the G43 better. 

Regarding the G43 useage in what it can and cant' do, I think it's more capable than what many give it credit for.  The only mods I've made are: Wilson Combat U-notch rear (not tritium) with Tritium front, +2 base plates, Tango down mag release and slide stop.  I haven't dicked with the internals in any way, and that's saying something considering I am really not a fan of Glocks at all and am mediocre with most of them.  

After less than a month of ownership and 100 rounds through it I ran a few "big boy" pistol drills with the gun.  I ran a modified version of the "Test" 10 in 10 from 10 on a B8.  Since my gun maxes out at 9 in the gun, I ran it from concealment instead.

I scored 87/90 in 9.02 seconds with all hits in the black portion of a B8 from 10y...out of an INCOG aiwb with 147gr Ranger

 

Mind you, I also have large hands (size XL glove) and I really don't have a problem managing the grip (but I DO need that +2 extension for leverage too).   The reload times still aren't bad, but not as up to par vs. a full-size.  I feel far better about having 9 in the gun with a spare 8 rounder than I did in the days where I carried a J-frame and 5 in a speed strip.  

I ended up with the 43 over the Shield because a co-worker was showing me some stuff with his shield and "flipping the sear deactivation lever" to disassemble it.  I said fuck that.  At least I know all the in's and out's of a Glock...

There isn't much need to over-think it.

I carry mine as a shorts gun in a pocket holster, as 2nd Gun in an ankle holster and want to carry it wearing a suit etc. 

Is anybody carrying it in a suit and if so, what magazine pouch are you using?

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BKS posted:

I carry mine as a shorts gun in a pocket holster, as 2nd Gun in an ankle holster and want to carry it wearing a suit etc. 

Is anybody carrying it in a suit and if so, what magazine pouch are you using?

I used a Raven Concealment pocket shield with a BFG 10 speed mag pouch in a front pocket 

 

 

 

Joined: 10/16/10  Location: WA

Well I ordered a blue label this week. Going to pick it up in 2 weeks, waiting period is 3 days but with the academy I wont be back up by that store for 2 weeks. So now I'm looking to spend more money on it. By policy no weapon mods as of now so just changing the sights, and buying a holster. Its going to be a backup gun on duty and a carry gun in certain situations when my personal 19 isn't practical. Hows everyone carrying them as a backup? And what sights are you using? I'm stuck between Trij HDs and Ameriglo Hacks like I have on my g19.

A Dark Star Gear clip on holster looks like it might be nice too.

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shadow93 posted:

Well I ordered a blue label this week. Going to pick it up in 2 weeks, waiting period is 3 days but with the academy I wont be back up by that store for 2 weeks. So now I'm looking to spend more money on it. By policy no weapon mods as of now so just changing the sights, and buying a holster. Its going to be a backup gun on duty and a carry gun in certain situations when my personal 19 isn't practical. Hows everyone carrying them as a backup? And what sights are you using? I'm stuck between Trij HDs and Ameriglo Hacks like I have on my g19.

A Dark Star Gear clip on holster looks like it might be nice too.

I also have Hackathorn sights on my 43. You really can't go wrong with these or the HD sights though.

I wear a Safariland Oregon City vest on patrol. It has a built in holster/pocket that I carry my 43 in. If you're wearing a traditional concealed vest I would look into getting a holster that velcros to the vest. Before I had an external vest I carried my back up in this fashion in a homemade kydex holster.

 

 

 

Joined: 10/16/10  Location: WA

I last wore a uniform eons ago (eons defined as 3 decades plus, but for a backup I had an inexpensive nylon holster hanging on the left side  concealed body armor straps . Carried an S&W 459 there-don't take the model number to the bank, all I can recall for sure is that it was a blued smith 9mm smaller than the model 59

I carry my BUG (not currently a G43) in an IWB holster velcro backed to my front trauma plate, inside the pocket.   Here's a velcro backed holster from a friend's company that goes on the front of the vest,  http://piecekeepertactical.com...187/category=8230492

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I finally got a Blue Label with night sights last week after evaluating the G43 against the Shield for a couple months using rentals. I just found that the Glock fits my hand better than the Shield, and it feels much more familiar since I'm used to the G19. I also thought that the Shield felt kind of "sloppy," like the slide rattles around every time I handle it, which I found kind of irritating. Just an aesthetic thing, but it bothered me.

I put 400 rounds through the Glock this weekend and initially had trouble putting shots on target, but I found in my second range session that when I tighten up my grip more than I'm accustomed to, it brings me back on target. I'm still pulling it to the left a bit by anticipating the recoil, but that's a bad habit I'm trying to break that I developed with all pistols.

I've been shooting with two Pearce +1 extensions with Glockstore +10% springs and a third mag with a Vickers +2. All of them functioned flawlessly, as did the pistol itself, but I'm going to continue to test the mags to ensure they're working reliably before I trust them.

I just ordered the Vickers extended mag release and slide stop from Midway (plus one of the $19 mags). Both factory parts are a little too flush for my liking, but I'm a little concerned the Vickers versions might interfere with certain holsters (I haven't settled on one yet but am leaning towards Kydex to accommodate a TLR-6 when I eventually get one).

i think this little Glock is going to work well for my needs. Believe it or not, this is the first pistol I've bought in ten years, so I'm excited to put it through its paces.

Dave

3ACR_Scout posted:

I finally got a Blue Label with night sights last week after evaluating the G43 against the Shield for a couple months using rentals. I just found that the Glock fits my hand better than the Shield, and it feels much more familiar since I'm used to the G19.

Dave

We sell a lot Shields and G43s.  You've essentially described the choice.  Both are good guns and effectively the same size when you look at the external dimensions.  However, they feel very different and consequently, some hands prefer one over the other.

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Joined:  2/24/2003                          Location:  Nevada, USA

Thought I'd share a quick update on my G43 experience.  I took it to the range after installing the Vickers extended parts. The extended magazine release is great, but the slide lock definitely does not work for me. It works well on my other Glocks, but on the smaller frame of the 43, my right thumb rests on top of it and gets cut up by the rear corner of the lever when the pistol recoils. I tried to shift my grip (not something I want to have to do) so my thumb a little lower, but that caused me to push up on the lever and lock the slide back inadvertently while firing. I switched back to the factory part and took it to the range again, and the problem went away. Not a big deal, since I release the slide by coming over the top with my left hand anyway. I also noticed that now that I've reached 900 rounds through this pistol, things have loosened up a little to where I can release the slide with the factory lever (with a little bit of effort).

One point of frustration with the slide release issues was that I had taken a variety of JHPs to the range that day to test the reliability of the Pearce and Vickers extended baseplates. Due to the issues with the slide locking back prematurely, I couldn't tell whether the JHPs were feeding reliably. I'm pretty sure that one 124 gr +P Gold Dot (a round others have reported issues with in the G43) misfeed on the last round.  Sig, Browning, Winchester SXTs, and 147 gr Gold Dots all seemed to function fine.  I got one Taran Tactical +1 baseplate for a decent price off Amazon and will test that one next time I get to the range.

I just got my TLR-6 in the mail yesterday and mounted it last night.  I really like this little light, and for only 100 lumens, it seems bright enough for most situations. For comparison, I also got a TLR-1 HL for my G19, which is crazy bright! I have a Stealth Gear IWB holster on the way for the G43 / TLR-6 combo - I liked the reviews I read of their products. Pretty happy overall with this little pistol.

Dave

Big B, 

Until your post, I didn't know anyone made a screw-on comp for a G43.  So, no have not tried one.  But thanks for the lead.  

I do have a KKM Comp'ed barrel on order for my G19 and am anxious to see how well that works.  

As to the G43, I use mine for times and places where either small size storage or carry is optimized, as a bug or going to walk the dog gun.  For me, small outweighs adding length to the overall piece.  But it would be interesting to shoot the stock and comp'ed versions side by side on a timer and see if it makes a material difference.  

On the G19, unless you already have a threaded barrel, based on a real quick internet search, by the time you buy a decent threaded barrel and the TBR Comp, you are getting pretty close to the good guy price of a KKM and Comp.  YMMV

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Joined: 29 May 2008          Location: AZ

I just read this write up on AMMOLAND about a G43 done in a "Roland style"

 

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/...600409#axzz4f1PrfbvC

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.45ACP Because sometimes short, fat and slow will do the job.

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B0308,

I have a comp on my 19 with a delta point pro which I'm liking more than I expected. 

I understand the hesitation to make a BUG/pocket gun bigger. When I first got my 43 I actually wished they gave it a slightly longer barrel/slide.

 

 

 

Joined: 10/16/10  Location: WA

Big B,

Yup I'm a barrel away from a RS. So far, with a G19 with an RMR06, "-" connector and NY2 Spring it a really nice shooting Glock. We'll see what difference the Comp makes. 

Good luck with the G43 

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Joined: 29 May 2008          Location: AZ

Midway has mags on sale again. $16.74 per mag. One day only.

http://www.midwayusa.DOT/s?targetLocation=%2F_%2FN-0%2B23162%3FNp%3D2%26Nr%3DAND%2528p_visible%253A1%252Ccustomertypeid%253A1%252Cp_promotionid%253A1114530%2529%26Nrpp%3D48%26Ns%3Dp_metric_sales_velocity%257C1%26Ntpc%3D1%26Ntpr%3D1&userItemsPerPage=48

Joined: 3/27/09          Location: Back in MA for now

Big B posted:

 

I understand the hesitation to make a BUG/pocket gun bigger. When I first got my 43 I actually wished they gave it a slightly longer barrel/slide.

A G43 with a TBRCi comp and TTI mag extension will sorta be like having a soft shooting single stack G19.

My wife is actually considering such a setup as her new CCW, except she has no desire to have an RDS sight mounted on it.

I saw the "El Rolandito" a couple weeks ago on TBRC's FB/Instagram and wanted one for myself. Have one of there comps on a 19 which I like.

LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

Picked up a 43 about three weeks ago and have close to 500 rounds through it and run it with our issue Federal 147's.  No internal mods and standard Glock sights.  In uniform, I carry in a Blade-Tech Klipt attached to my vest and have a G-Code paddle on order for daily, OWB, office carry.  

These clear mags are from ETS, a 7 round and 9 round and both have worked without concern.  Between the two, I have about 150 rounds of both Speer 124 ball and the Fed 147.  I was very reluctant to buy these, as I had a very shitty time with their G22 mags, they simply would not run without multiple malfs per mag.  I now use those as visual aids for new hires to show the magazine internals.  

The 7 and 9 load without issue and are easy to seat in the gun.  I've seen their 12 round mag and thought it a little too big to carry, but it might be good as a spare for the vehicle, bug out bag, etc. 

 

 

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Just shot my TALO 43 for the first time the other day.  It's now replaced a Ruger LC9 Pro as my main carry gun.  I really like the feel of the 43 compared to the Ruger.  The LC9 sat higher in my hand and I find the grip frame to be awkward.  The Ameriglo sights on the TALO 43 are also a huge improvement over the Ruger and factory Glock sights.  Accuracy was a little spotty with Blazer Brass and a box of Swiss ammo, which I thought might just be me,  but groups were very tight at 10yds with 124gr standard pressure HSTs, which is my carry round for it.

With one mag, I had the same problem others were having with it not dropping free.  After releasing it a bunch of times and making a mental note to really smash on the mag release, it hasn't been a problem.  I'm not a huge fan of the Vickers slide stop on my other Glocks, so I'll probably avoid it on this one, but the factory slide stop is definitely lacking.

I also added a Taran Tactical +1 to the mag I carry in the gun, which, at $30 is not cheap, but it's 1/4" longer than the factory flat plate and the weight of the aluminum helps with mag drops - also added a Tango/Vickers +2 to a backup mag.  No issues with either floor plate.

Are there any good ballistic test results posted here by Doc or another reliable source for JHPs out of short barrels like the G43? I've seen a few YouTube tests that seem to indicate that HSTs exhibit the best combination of expansion and penetration out of 3" barrels, while Gold Dots (my preferred round up til now) seem to have mixed results. I see lots of people on "other sites" making claims that certain rounds "function flawlessly," but they are clearly referring to mechanical function and accuracy without having any idea of the terminal performance of the round from their short barrel vs. a full size pistol.

I've been impressed by the performance of HSTs in the tests that I've found online, but the 147 gr standard pressure HSTs I tested do not seem to feed smoothly in my G43 with various aftermarket mag extensions. Pearce +1, Taran Tactical +1, and TD / Vickers +2 extensions all seem to periodically allow a round (usually the last one) to nose down just enough so that it jams on the bottom edge of the feed ramp. Sometimes the slide seems to get ahead of the last round, jamming against the middle of the round with the round stuck on the feed ramp. I had similar results with 124 gr +P Gold Dots, but 147 gr Gold Dots seem to function smoothly. I'm going to try to get back out to test the HSTs again in the original factory mags to see if this is a mag extension issue or a problem with my pistol that I could ask Glock to look at. I love my G43, but the quest to find reliable aftermarket mag extensions has been frustrating, especially when I see others saying that their identical mag extensions have worked flawlessly with HSTs and other JHPs.

On a side note, I bought a box of Aguila 117gr JHPs at Academy just to try them out and satisfy my morbid curiosity. The round reminds me of the time I made my own hollow point round out of a .22 LR cartridge by boring a hole in the tip with a push pin when I was about 12 years old. It literally looks like they chopped the tip off a FMJ bullet and drilled a hole in the middle. The flat, blunt tip of the round jammed on the bottom of the G43 feed ramp with about 20 of the 50 rounds I shot. I hope people out there aren't really using that stuff for defensive purposes.

Sundance - I think I posted earlier in this thread about the Vickers slide stop. I like them on my larger Glocks, but when I put one on the smaller G43, my thumb would occasionally push it up enough to prematurely lock the slide back. I switched back to the factory part and haven't had any issues since. The Vickers stop also tore up my thumb a bit when the pistol recoiled.

Dave

3ACR_Scout,

Take a look at the ETS Group mags for your G43. That have a flush fit 7 rounder and I believe both 8 and 9 round mags with some protrusion from the bottom. I've had good luck with their 10 round G19 mags. 

Mojo/Mark
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MOJONIXON posted:

3ACR_Scout,

Take a look at the ETS Group mags for your G43. That have a flush fit 7 rounder and I believe both 8 and 9 round mags with some protrusion from the bottom. I've had good luck with their 10 round G19 mags. 

I just checked the ETS site. No 8 round mags but there is flush fit 7's and 9's that protrude .750". 

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I definitely plan to try out the ETS mags, but I've seen a few early reviews that seems to indicate that they may have some quality control issues - springs kinking, unable to load them to capacity until they break in (not unheard of with factory Glock mags). This is coming from people that have other ETS Glock mags that have been trouble free, although I've heard complaints about some of the full size mags needing springs exchanged. I have a few of their 31-round 9mm mags that have worked fine. I may just wait a few months to see if it's just early teething problems or something.

I would say that, so far, the Tango Down / Vickers +2 extensions have been the most reliable of the aftermarket products. It may be a partly a result of the extended spring that comes with them. Despite the reports that the Taran +1 works "flawlessly" with the Glock factory spring, I've found that extension to be the most problematic. I had similar problems with the Pearce +1 extensions until I added +10% replacement springs, so I need to do the same with the Taran-equipped mag.

Dave

I was one of the early complainers (on P&S)about ETS's springs. In the 10 round G19 mags they were crap , but they took care of me and the 2 I bought subsequent to the initial one have been trouble free. Good enough that they are my dedicated travel to California mags now. 

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I took the G43 to the range again today and shot 50 rounds of 147gr HST and 50 rounds of 147gr G2 Gold Dots. Contrary to my previous experience (which may have been thrown off by the premature slide lock created by the Vickers extended slide stop), things went pretty smoothly with the HSTs. I used a Pearce +1, a Taran +1, and the factory 6-round with the finger rest. I had one malfunction with the HSTs, involved in the Taran-equipped magazine. The slide passed over top of the round but apparently caught part of it; the slide jammed about a 1/4 inch from the closed position with the round visible under it. When I rotated the pistol to examine it, the slide slipped forward the rest of the way and closed on the empty chamber.

I also had one malfunction with the G2s, again involving the Taran +1 mag. One round somehow got pinned flat against the feed ramp with the tip lodged in the top of the chamber. I'm convinced that these malfunctions are related to using the factory spring in the Taran +1 extension. Since the Pearce +1 had a few malfunctions before I replaced the factory spring with a +10% spring, I'm going to do the same with the Taran mag. Sorry, I think I've said that a couple times, but I'm balking at paying $9 for a +10% spring from the Glock Store, which will make this a $60 mag.

I hope this feedback is useful to someone. I'm not sure if I'm the only person seeing these kinds of issues with mag extensions. I think I've seen a few reported on M4C, but lots of other people seem to report that their extensions all work flawlessly. 

Dave

Qual'd the other day.   IL state mandated 30-round qual from 5y, 7y, 15y.  I used 147gr Ranger for grins as I was advised not to use a +P load.  Shot most of it with TangoDown/Vickers +2 base plate equipped mags.  Ran like a sewing machine...

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Not a fan of Glocks...not a fan of tiny guns, but dang if this one isn't actually useful.  I posted my J-Frame for sale later that night.

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