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Re-profiled, not reground.  Sorry for the incorrect wording; I'm not a pro.  I used a Lansky sharpening set with angle guides and diamond sharpening stones.  It took a while (maybe 50-75 passes on each side?) with the 20 degree guide and then stropping on an old flexible leather belt to get the edge I liked.  I also have a Smiths pocket sharpener with fine and coarse carbide set at 20 degrees for touch up.  Just take your time and stay away from machine grinders and good luck!  I hope this helps!

scott oldham posted:

Thanks, I appreciate it.

 

Glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem...thought I'd lost my touch on the whetstone with this one

I’m starting to think it may be the steel. I’ve had trouble with other blades made of AUS-8.  I’ve had trouble with other CRKT blades, too. The larger spearpoint M-16 in particular comes to mind. I couln’t ever get a good edge on that one. It just felt very soft. There’s  that and I know I don’t have very good touch on the stone to begin with.  I’m either too heavyhanded, too light, or can’t maintain the proper angle.  

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Might be time to buy a felt wheel for your bench grinder and load it up with polishing compound or jewelers rouge.

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David Reeves posted:

Might be time to buy a felt wheel for your bench grinder and load it up with polishing compound or jewelers rouge.

I’ve actually got my dad’s old polishing set up coming my way. In retirement he did this for fun and profit to keep busy. 

I also have a better stone with 20 degree angle tool a nice base and a leather strop on the way.  

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Stupid question, but can a blade go dull while just sitting unused?

I ask because my EDC knife seems to do this. I'll not use it, and go and check it, and it just seems and feels dull.

I'll sharpen it, and after awhile, it feels dull again.

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yakc130 posted:

Stupid question, but can a blade go dull while just sitting unused?

I ask because my EDC knife seems to do this. I'll not use it, and go and check it, and it just seems and feels dull.

I'll sharpen it, and after awhile, it feels dull again.

Happens all the time with my straight razors if I don't use them for a week.

Its like the edge picks up just the smallest bit of oxidation... even if I oil them. 

They don't get crazy dull, but you can feel them tugging ever so slightly on the whiskers.

That being said, with my sons having been out of the house for several years, they aren't getting dull anywhere near as quick.

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I finally started getting a handle on obtaining a good edge on my Hissatsu. I found my old Buck Washita stone, it’s pretty hard and seems to be doing the job. Got a good start on getting a decent edge on it. Can’t wait for my leather strop to show up. 

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I have 3 Hissatsu and the trainer, love love love 'em. Trained traditional iai, tanto, etc so they feel "right", and after some e-chats with Howe and Williams I started training with and carrying them a good while back. Have noticed some difference in finish/hardness between the 3 blades (early vs late), and the adjustable belt loop on the initial one was best. Have not yet gotten any of the Williams folders; my dozen or so Spydercos are still truckin'. Lastly, damn you people all to heck for cluing me in to the Winkler/Williams piece, I now how more jonesing and less future moneys.

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My new stone, holder, angle guide, and strop all showed up on the same day. Darn the luck.  I do need a good steel, still.  My Hissatsu is getting close to the point I'd call it sharp again.  It will cut hair on my arm, but it's not shaving sharp...yet. It's getting there, though. I'm not as frustrated and displeased with myself as I was last week.  I'm quite pleased, in fact.

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One thing I like to do with softer steels is to stop at a medium grit. It won't ever be hair splitting sharp, but you don't have the edge rolling problems you guys are describing. The coarser edge makes up for the lack of sharpness by acting almost like micro serrations ( not good for carving wood but damn effective on flesh). Some guys will have the edge carbidized (sp?)  to give a similar effect ( see link)

https://www.instagram.com/p/BYsUELGlsLt/

 How sick would a Shinbu look with the edge carbidized like that?

So, it's taken a total of about 75 to 80 strokes( taking it slow at about 10 strokes /day for the past week or so) to get the edge on my Hissatsu folder to the point where now I'm actually happy with it.  I've learned to not be so heavy handed and it's paying off very well. The leather strop is really making a difference as well.  Not sure I even need a steel. Maybe for my kitchen knives.

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So with all of this conversation and my dissatisfaction with the edge I was getting, the wife and I went shopping in an antique/junk store and I located an old 12"+ whetstone. Clearly hadn't been used in decades as it had a 'sheen' of build up on the top. Paid, $10 for it so I took it home and used a course industrial stone to literally restore the old stone. Been using it for about a week now and my Hissatsu (s)are back to the edge that I desire. Seems, at least for me, the old way is the best way, an old, long stone, a good steel,  and time..

invictus066 posted:

Mojo, glad you got the edge you like!   Carbidizing, huh?  That sounds like I need to look into that!

Thanks. It just took a good stone,an angle guide and patience. It’s still not factory new sharp but it’s back to being dangerous again. 

I’ll keep at it a little at a time.  I haven’t even touched it with the stone in about a week or so. I just strop it after work and some use. 

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