Let's talk custom guns, with details

Larry Vickers Colt 1991A1.

This gun was originally commissioned by a close friend as a retro .  He already had  a full-house gun from LAV.  I bought it from him in 07 or 08, after looking long and hard for one.  It had a refit colt barrel, novak sights, a PERFECT extended thumb safety, trigger, and reliability work.  It also sported the best dehorn of any pistol I've owned.    I soon called Larry and asked if we could add on some things to the pistol.  He agreed, and we got to talking about what I wanted done.

I asked for a beavertail, and the requisite hammer, checkering, and new sights.   He asked what was wrong with the novaks he already installed.  I said I just prefer the sight picture afforded by Heine's.  He said, "it doesn't matter".  Then I asked for a new barrel.  He asked, "why?  does this one not shoot?  I know it does"  I said it shot like a laser.  So he said adding a bar-sto was just wasting money.  I thought I knew what I wanted in a 1911, but Larry found a way of educating me along the way.  I let him pick the beavertail, and the checkering LPI and style.  as I have found that just like a good chef, you gotta let the gunsmiths have some freedom to do what they prefer doing.  They all can fit parts, but they have favorite parts and know how the parts fit together.

He sent the gun to Pete single for checkering, and said that Pete's work is unmatched.  I would have to agree.  Larry said the grips were a special set handmade by Hogue.  They have the most comfortable profile of any grip, I've ever laid hands on.

The gun has probably 15k on it now.  Dead nuts reliable, and laser straight shooting.  The recoil impulse is soft, and the gun is easy to shoot fast.  Larry did some magic in there, for sure.

I had a basic pistol, and asked Larry to make the proverbial "fighting gun".   He absolutely nailed it.

 

 

OK, was told by a brother to get in here.  Truth be told, I don't have many full customs of anything and certainly nothing like some of the jewels here.  I guess five would qualify and two of those came from two members here, my HK MSG90G3k and my HK45.  I'll do the HK45 soon as I did a bit of work after I got it but the G3k is so ridiculously perfect I wouldn't dare touch it.  One certain pimptastic pistol will not be shown as some of you were quite hurtful about it.  Have some real potty mouths here.

Anyhoooooo, that leaves me my Surgeon Scalpel which is 95% done and my JOJOs 1911 Colt Tactical.  I'll do the Colt now.

The kydex was made for me by Josh of Ronin Tactical.  He does superb work.

Left side view.  It has 20,200 rds through it.  Extremely reliable and very accurate.  This started life as a series 70 reissue.  It was gutted.  The only Colt parts are the frame, slide and plunger.  If you take a close look here and elsewhere, the entire gun has been rounded off.  Beautifully smooth on the outside.  After it was completed, it was originally parkerized.  I sent it out for Melonite, inside and out except for some small parts that could not withstand the process.  The SS Kart barrel is also melonized but looks shiny because it's not carbon steel like the rest of the pistol.  Not pretty but nails tough and has worn well.

Right side view.

Close up of the front strap checkering, the undercut trigger guard, aluminum trigger and mag release.

The trigger was cut back and resurfaced to fit my hand.  Although I didn't catch it, the top of the slide stop is also checkered as is the mag release.  The mag release is also cut back at an angle more natural for your thumb.  Nice little touch that feels great.

 

Smith and Alexander magwell:

The back of the mag well is pretty nuts and they will never do it again.  It was something they wanted to try but was expensive to do.  Mine was the guinea pig.  I wanted an arched back strap.  The S&A came with vertical grooves so they ground them off and hand checkered the back to match the front.  While they were there, they hogged out a lanyard attachment. Getting the pin in was a bitch but it is way cool.  And a bit of a dust collector.

C&S ultralight hammer and sear.  Back of slide checkered.  You can see the EGW firing pin stop and the Ed Brown memory groove grip safety.  Also Heinie Straight 8 night sights

This little hole on the frame is actually a set screw.  High round count guns sometimes have firing pin stop failure which will deadline your pistol.  Even if stop breaks, the set screw will hold it in place and your gun will still fire.  This was a Bill Wilson concept.  Overkill for sure but just another thing they wanted to try out.

Other side of the slide stop.  End was checkered and countersunk into the frame with a nice bevel.

Hard fit Kart NM barrel with a King's bushing.  Barrel crown is protected with a counter bore.

And yes, a full length recoil guide rod.  I like them.  They seem smoother to me.  So sue me.

Top of the slide was flattened and grooved

Ejection post lowered and flared. Round window cut into the barrel hood.

Caspian rail frame welded and pinned.  It sits low so I need the custom holster to hold the light.  Novak came out with a higher and tighter one later but was too late.  No biggie.

All all of the springs are Wolff and have been changed every 3000rds.  This pistol does not have the name appeal (well earned in most cases) of other makers but I think for what I wanted, I could do no better.  There are about 10 past and present members that have JOJOs 1911s and they all love them.  I always call them my gunsmiths but they have been friends for nearly 20 years.  They take very good care of me and are only 15 minutes away from my house.  Can't do much better than that.

 

 

 

 

 

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IT'S A COLT.  THEY'RE LIKE THE HK OF GUNS.

  

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theJanitor posted:

Con, that colt is ridiculous. Wish I could see more of JOJO's work.  But I haven't seen one make its way this far west.

LOOOVE the checkering.   

"name appeal"...I think JoJo's is plenty name appeal...I certainly wouldn't turn one down. Shit, I been looking for a project for them, just so I can drop the counselor's name....wait..do they know you as the counselor? Consigwhatever...???

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

R.Moran posted:
theJanitor posted:

Con, that colt is ridiculous. Wish I could see more of JOJO's work.  But I haven't seen one make its way this far west.

LOOOVE the checkering.   

"name appeal"...I think JoJo's is plenty name appeal...I certainly wouldn't turn one down. Shit, I been looking for a project for them, just so I can drop the counselor's name....wait..do they know you as the counselor? Consigwhatever...???

John will do.  Or Big Wallet.  Either works well.

My daughter calls me Big Wallet so just say John from Lightfighter.  Or PM me for their contact info.

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The S&A magwell is awesome! I wish mine (25 LPI) matched my frontstrap (30 LPI)... the checkering on the mag release with the angle and on the R side of the slide stop are really nice touches.

I've been tempted to send my Wilson somewhere for a more aggressive undercut on the trigger guard (a buddy has an STI DVC  Classic and the undercut is amazing) as well as checkering the under side of the trigger guard. Even toying with the idea of doing a patch of checkering on the frame where my support side thumb rests (I put grip tape there on my 2011 & duty gun and stipple that spot on the plastic stuff), I've never seen it done on a 1911 and thing it would be cool. Any excuse for more checkering is a good idea!

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So, I've got two to share. Both are 1911s, the Hi-Power I have is still in the hands of a competent 'smith who focuses on that specific gun. 

The first one ...

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This was my first duty pistol and it did sixteen years in that role. I bought it within a half hour or so of getting hired by the sheriff. Series 80 blued steel 1911A1. Doug McDougall, now deceased, of Scott, McDougall & Associates did nearly every bit of work on this gun. 

The first go'round was their Basic Combat Auto Package. Reliability, trigger, sights - I think Wilson Combat. Then came Novaks and they eventually went to IWI for their Bar Dot set up. It also saw XS Big Dots, XS small dots, and finally a 10-8 Performance U-Notch rear and a fiber optic front. 

The grips went from stock to Pachmyer to Strider Gunner grips. I can't tell you what all safeties, hammers, and beavertails it went through. 

The front strap was checkered by hand after the '94 NTI match. Very nice work. 

You can see the wear mark by the slide stop pin for the ol' Surefire 6V Classic WML that I started using in '99 when I went to investigations. By '02, Dawson Precision had come out with their proprietary rail that was silver soldered and bolted on. I sent the frame to them while I went to southern Africa for a few weeks. It was waiting for me when I came home. I used it with a Nitrolon light on the gun until I retired this from service in 2006. 

This  was carried at work, shot a fair amount of competition, and a buttload of classes during its 16 years of service. 

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And, the second ... 

This is a Series 70, stainless Colt 1911A1. It was built by me in a Vicker's 1911 Gunsmith class; though given my sheer ineptitude with hand tools I would not blame LAV at all for disavowing this pistol and myself. 

Wilson Combat or 10-8 Performance parts were used throughout the gun. The flat face trigger is fine, my first time going that route so I'm not sure I'd do it again. The rear sight is from 10-8Perf and the front is a small dot; at some point I'll replace at least the front sight. V&C Industries did the cerakote for me when their lead guy, Vinnie, went through the cert program at their factory. The grips are Strider Gunner Grips that were cut down and re-shaped to meld with the Ed Brown Bobtail - my favorite way of setting up a non-uniformed duty gun being carried concealed; my non-U/C pistol in narcs was a Bobtailed Commander. 

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Sadly, after buying all of the tools and doing the class, I started drifting away from 1911 platform about a year later. I haven't carried one since January 2012. Since then it's just been polymer framed 9mm pistols. Who would have thunk it?

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Erick posted:

So, I've got two to share. Both are 1911s, the Hi-Power I have is still in the hands of a competent 'smith who focuses on that specific gun. 

The first one ...

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This was my first duty pistol and it did sixteen years in that role. I bought it within a half hour or so of getting hired by the sheriff. Series 80 blued steel 1911A1. Doug McDougall, now deceased, of Scott, McDougall & Associates did nearly every bit of work on this gun. 

 

Erik that is beautiful and complete with the provenance makes it a definite legacy peice.

"Without training they lack knowlege, without knowlege they lack discipline , without discipline they lack victory"

 

“Go as hard as you can, for as long as you can, and then quit.”

 

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Jim Stroh Colt Pocketlite

This was Jim Stroh's personal pocket gun.  it's chambered in .380ACP and in the rarer DAO configuration.  Not much to say about this little guy.  All it's got is a trigger/action job and a little polish on the slide.  The trigger ramps pretty heavy before it breaks, but it's a clean pull and actually very accurate.  The pistol is VERY easy to shoot and I prefer it to an airweight J frame for this type of "rule #1" gun.

The gun could use some novak's like McDougall used to put on his Pocketlites, but since Jim passed away recently, I feel extremely hesitant to alter his personal gun 

 

Did some trading and got this Hi Power worked on by Don Williams without the wait. Should be in my hands early next week. 

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LPD "People ask the difference between a leader and a boss. . . The leader works in the open, and the boss in covert. The leader leads, and the boss drives." - Theodore Roosevelt

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How custom is custom?

This is one of my M&P40's meant to fill the role of my 1911's like the one posted earlier..I've "built" it up to mirror it.

Why the M&P...

it was on the scene before the G4 Glock. With the small back strap it gives me a better LOP so I can have a better grip and better trigger finger placement.

It runs better with a light then a G22

It's available with a thumb safety. I'm in the minority on this one, but I like a TS on my short gun when possible. 

Why 40?

 I'm willing to give up 2 rounds of 9mm for the slight edge the 40 can give you through barriers, and a little more leeway in choosing a load. ie: If I'm stuck with winchester white box JHP, I think the 40 will serve me better then a 9mm I am not willing to give up 5 or more rounds of 40 to go to the 45.

Mods:

 Like most guns like this, it's gone through a few changes and stages. From top to bottom

 Sights, IIRC the first sights I put on it were Heinie, Tritium front and plain black rear. They provide a target type sight picture, and no white ring around the trit. But, I decided I wanted adjustables, so Dawson it was. Trit front , plain black rear. They don't make a non white ring trit, so I took what I could get. I asked if Heinie would make a taller front sight, but no go...I really liked their serrated front sight. ...back when I could see them better.

 Barrel:

 I had originally put a Storm Lake in it, it showed a slight improvement.  Then I went to a KKM, and it improved some more. Did I really need a new barrel? Probably not, but I believe you can't have to much capability built into the gun...mo accurate, mo betta.

Trigger/action

 I actually prefer the curved/articulated trigger of the M&P to the Glock. I added the Apex Duty kit, with the sear. A friend and fellow LFer is an M&P armorer and he does most of this shit for me. He opened up the loop on the trigger bar, so I hit the "wall" further forward in the trigger stroke.

Mag release:

 This is the Springer version.

 I prefer extended mag releases..not so much to reach it..but it give me more leverage??? for a more positive and full travel of the release for a smoother mag change.

 Wish there was an extended slide stop and thumb safety.

Grip treatment:

 It was originally sent to Boresight solutions for the 10/8 package..and removal of the beavertail. The work was great, clean etc. But, it wasn't as aggressive as I wanted. So a co-worker at the time, who is one of those guys that can do anything...went over it to make it a bit more aggressive, and cerakoted it OD.

 X300U....duh

Mag base plates:

 I've got 4 aluminum 10/8 pads, 4 plastic Apex/10/8 pads, 2 Arrendondo extended pads, and whole bunch of Compact base plates. All the way around I think the factory compact pad is about the best bang for the buck in base pads, if you can find them..and one of the best mods you can do to the gun over all.

Future work:

 I may switch to a FO front sight, and see about a fitted barrel..BarSto or if Apex comes out with a 40 barrel.  I've thought about trying the flat face trigger, but that would be more to get the solid metal trigger shoe. If there was a metal version of the factory trigger, I'd be happy with that.

Is the M&P perfect? Nope, but neither is the Glock or the 1911. But, this gun hits a lot of the high points of what I'm looking for.

Not quite as exquisite as the 1911 & BHP works of art, but, I think it'll get me home. 

 

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

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Consigliere posted:
C&S ultralight hammer and sear.  Back of slide checkered. 

 Counselor -  What are the intents of these two mods?  I'm a neophyte to custom work, and these are the only two that weren't self-explanatory to me.  Very cool and all business blaster, it looks like it would fit in the hand like a glove.

Thanks, E46

Eagle46 posted:
Consigliere posted:
C&S ultralight hammer and sear.  Back of slide checkered. 

 Counselor -  What are the intents of these two mods?  I'm a neophyte to custom work, and these are the only two that weren't self-explanatory to me.  Very cool and all business blaster, it looks like it would fit in the hand like a glove.

Thanks, E46

My understanding was that unlike a smooth surface ,  the checkered or in this case more accurately striated slide and rear sight cuts down on glare .  I think a matte finish would do the same but I do like the touch.

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A skeletonized hammer gives you a faster lock time.  Whether that actually equates to a real advantage is up to the shooter.  I kind of doubt it.  Mainly, it is to be different and cool.  The Commander had a round hammer.  When they started putting on beavertails, the commander hammer was used because the round shape fit better in the swept up beavertail.  Then various makers started customizing the round hole.  Because it looked good.

Serrations cut glare, but again, I've never noticed glare on a non-serrated slide.  So mainly, I think it is just customizing for the purpose of setting the gun apart from something out of the counter.  The serrations on the slide match the ones on the sight, so it all harmonizes.  Custom guns are like custom suits, cut and tailored exactly for you, with custom touches not available on an off the rack suit/gun.  Not everything has to have a practical purpose beyond just looking good.  Life is short, why shoot ugly guns?  Sometimes that applies.

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Dorsai posted:

A skeletonized hammer gives you a faster lock time.  Whether that actually equates to a real advantage is up to the shooter.  I kind of doubt it.  Mainly, it is to be different and cool.  The Commander had a round hammer.  When they started putting on beavertails, the commander hammer was used because the round shape fit better in the swept up beavertail.  Then various makers started customizing the round hole.  Because it looked good.

Serrations cut glare, but again, I've never noticed glare on a non-serrated slide.  So mainly, I think it is just customizing for the purpose of setting the gun apart from something out of the counter.  The serrations on the slide match the ones on the sight, so it all harmonizes.  Custom guns are like custom suits, cut and tailored exactly for you, with custom touches not available on an off the rack suit/gun.  Not everything has to have a practical purpose beyond just looking good.  Life is short, why shoot ugly guns?  Sometimes that applies.

Thank you Mr. Dougie Downer

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So onto another custom, an HK45.   Again, not much to be done to these in the aftermarket world with gunsmithing and parts, especially compared to a Glock.  However, enough little touches can be accomplished to make the HK45  slightly better.

I purchased this pistol from another member.  It had already been sent to Bowie Tactical for their Vickers' package. He is an excellent smith for HKs.  This involved the stippling of the frame:

 

Next was the filling and sanding of the little trough that the HK has inside the trigger guard.  Depending on the size of your hand, it sometimes gets annoying as it grates on your trigger finger.  He also takes the sharp edges off of the ambi mag release which is hard to see but is very welcome.

I sent the pistol to Ashbury Precision Ordinance for their RMR install.  They added Heinie tritium suppressor sights and the Trijicon RM07 3.5 moa.  If I want to take that off, they also included a beautiful filler plate for the slide.  Their work is perfection and their service exceptional.

What you cant see is the trigger job that Bowie also did.  Made the biggest difference in the very long and heavy HK double action pull.  You can avoid it altogether as you can carry this pistol cocked and locked but it still is very nice.  JOJOs  further worked on the trigger by changing some springs and the single action is now the best I have felt in one of these guns.

Of course I can add the extended suppressor barrel in a minute if I want to use the can.  Haven't really seen an aftermarket HK pistol barrel although their might be some out there.  This is $300 and is plenty accurate.

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R.Moran posted

 A really nice functional blaster

Envious of the Dawson adjustable sights. Apparently they are in redesign and may be available in early 2017. I have a KKM for my M&P 9s, but when installed gives a different POI from the factory barrel/sights. Have a set on a G34 and REALLY want some for my M&Ps as they are my preferred sidearm right now.

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CWM11B posted:
R.Moran posted

 A really nice functional blaster

Envious of the Dawson adjustable sights. Apparently they are in redesign and may be available in early 2017. I have a KKM for my M&P 9s, but when installed gives a different POI from the factory barrel/sights. Have a set on a G34 and REALLY want some for my M&Ps as they are my preferred sidearm right now.

Yeah, I was confounded when I went to buy a set for my SD9, I found a set at a vendor, but transfered them to an M&P9

I also did buy a set of LPA's and Williams FireSites.

I just put the LPA's on my 40c, FO fromt and rear, which I'm not big on, but I got them super cheap. I put them on the compact, because they are lower profile and a bit more like the factory sights in profile/style.

I had already had a set of Williams on my M&P22 pistol, where they work well. The sights are slightly different for the rimfire gun.

 They have a more bomar style  slightly higher profile, which is what I was looking for on the bigger guns like the SD9 and M&P FS. A little research shows some guys using them and are happy with them.  I mean, Williams has been making sights for a 100 years.

If nothing else, either of those may fit the bill until the new Dawsons are available, if ever. If LPA made a set of their higher profile sights for the M&P, I think I'd be fine with them.

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

Wilson Combat Colt #110 Basic Combat Pistol

So this project came to a conclusion today, when the Fedex guy  stopped by to drop it off.  This started life as a basic pistol built at Wilson in the late 80's.  It had a weird spec which intrigued me when I saw it on Gunbroker.  It had Bomars, which I love.  It had a long trigger (which doesn't pair well with the arched MSH), and a bobbed hammer, and an uncomfortable wilson drop-in beavertail.  It had stippling on the frontstrap, and while not my favorite, seems to be a rare option.  Normally, the stippled frontstrap was selected when trying to keep the costs lower, but the Bomars and the serrated rear of the slide were up-charge options.  All in all, a strange spec, but looked to be unfired and in pristine shape.

After receiving it, I shied a way from using it, as the hammer and beavertail were uncomfortable.  That's when this project really started.  I located a set of the correct logo Wilson grips.  Then I found a NIB thumb safety from the 80's.  And I also found a beavertail from the early 90's.  Then I called a friend at Wilson and asked if they could update the gun for me, using the period correct parts.  My request was denied, but I was pointed in the direction of Chris Peters at Metaloy.  Metaloy has been doing firearm chroming for decades.  You might recall seeing Chris Peters' name in my previous posts.  Turns out he's running Metaloy and was willing to do the gunsmithing work and the chroming!

When Chris saw that my grip safety was a few years too new, he pulled some strings and found the correct Wilson part, from the 80's.  He then cut the frame tangs and fit the beavertail, along with the thumb safety.  He also had Jim Milks of Innovative Custom Guns, modify a colt hammer before installing it, a new sear, and disconnector.  He sourced a flat mainspring housing, and proceeded to hard chrome the frame, creating an old school two-tone look, reminiscent of the competition guns of the time.

So I got an early Wilson, and had it updated with period correct parts, and had a legit Wilson gunsmith put it all together, and had the same hard chrome shop Wilson would have used to refinish it.  Love it when a plan comes together.

I like the before and after....almost couldn't go wrong

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

R.Moran posted:

I like the before and after....almost couldn't go wrong

Yep. Either would do.  I am being drawn toward Bomars.  Damn.

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Consigliere posted:
R.Moran posted:

I like the before and after....almost couldn't go wrong

Yep. Either would do.  I am being drawn toward Bomars.  Damn.

No no no no no.

Unless you're shooting bullseye, or it's just for casual plinking.

I think I've banged enough of them (just getting in and out of vehicles, going around doorways and corners, catching on hatch and aircraft door frames) to piss off a number of armorers.  

Not enough that a bottle of brown liquor at Christmas won't fix, but enough to get the stink-eye when bringing in another 1911.

prestonoconnor posted:

I really like that old Wilson and how you updated it. I have an old colt gov done by Wilson. I bought it almost twenty years ago and I have no idea when it went to Wilson. It has a bobbed hammer, Swenson ambi safety and king tappan sights. I will post pics later

put up a pic, especially if it has "wilson combat" markings on it.  I can help decode the time period it was built

Sinister posted:
Consigliere posted:
R.Moran posted:

I like the before and after....almost couldn't go wrong

Yep. Either would do.  I am being drawn toward Bomars.  Damn.

No no no no no.

Unless you're shooting bullseye, or it's just for casual plinking.

I think I've banged enough of them (just getting in and out of vehicles, going around doorways and corners, catching on hatch and aircraft door frames) to piss off a number of armorers.  

Not enough that a bottle of brown liquor at Christmas won't fix, but enough to get the stink-eye when bringing in another 1911.

I hear what you're saying, but....it sure is nice to be able to dial in the gun exactly, to whatever load you are shooting. I've seen some big shifts, elevation and windage just from changing brands of ball.

I know some dude who took Dawson adjustables to combat....and now of course everyone is running an RDS on a pistol....

What would be "cool" for fixed sights, would be to have some sort of hash marks on the slide so I can see how uch if any I've slipped...or pounded..the sight over. Hell even closely spaced dimples under the sight, for the set screw to sit in..that would go a long way to dealing with the hit and miss of adjusting rear sights, for windage at least. Some sort of quick change front sight, like on some S&W and Ruger revolvers.

Otherwise, it's pretty frustrating trying to train, and not hitting where you want....in fact, I've been known to spend whole range days and lots of ammo, trying to dial in a gun.

I wish I could get a Bomar style sight sunk into the slide of an M&P...that would be fucking baller.

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

R.Moran was doing great ... right up to the Bomar on a M&P.  

He commented on a thumb safety on a duty pistol and that is exactly drove me to the M&P. Grip size in comparison to my paws helped a lot with the decision.

I really like his mod to the lip at the bottom of the front strap. Mine have that as well, though not as eye pleasing, because I just never liked the feel or look of it. 

I hear and see both sides of the adjustable sights discussion. I'm guessing because I doubt I can shoot up to the adjustables I am not seeing the advantage.

Bob, I really do like the work you've done to that M&P.

Erick posted:

R.Moran was doing great ... right up to the Bomar on a M&P.  

He commented on a thumb safety on a duty pistol and that is exactly drove me to the M&P. Grip size in comparison to my paws helped a lot with the decision.

I really like his mod to the lip at the bottom of the front strap. Mine have that as well, though not as eye pleasing, because I just never liked the feel or look of it. 

I hear and see both sides of the adjustable sights discussion. I'm guessing because I doubt I can shoot up to the adjustables I am not seeing the advantage.

Bob, I really do like the work you've done to that M&P.

Not me, that was Boresight solutions...IIRC the mod was Hilton Yams idea...and part of the 10/8 package.

I will likely contact Dave Sams about fitting a barrel.

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

Speaking of customs....guess who just got another custom .22LR bolt gun in the mail today?

 

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"Good landing, good fight, and good luck" James M. Gavin 09Jul43

 "they say if it works, it's a good tactic...I say anything can work once" 

No specific requirement for how custom it is right?

This is my lone 1911, a Springfield Armory Loaded model. I bought it for a song from another guy in the barracks, with only 100 rounds through it. I know the round count because I was with him when he bought it new, and the one occasion he fired it on. After a few years of ownership I decided it wasn't 100% what I wanted, and started reading up on 1911's. After hours spent combing over 10-8 performance's website and reading Hilton Yam's recommended shops, I decided to send it back to Springfield Armory's custom shop. I had them perform the TRP package with just a couple of tweaks to it. I had them install a  Smith and Alexander magwell instead of their two piece version, that was to rid the gun of the ILS. I also had them install a single sided safety instead of ambi (this is a fun gun, not defensive use). I went with a GI guide rod, just personal preference.  Sights are an XS Standard dot front, with an LPA rear that has been opened up to match. I plan to swap the rear for a 10-8 Performance at some point. So not a full bore custom, but as close as I got.

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