Painting Your Carbine- from the Book of Pat

Painting a carbine.
We get a lot of questions about this, and we see a lot of people who spend a lot of money to have their carbine painted.
The reason for painting is to make the gun less visible. Black is the absolute worst color for a gun. It makes the gun more visible in both day or night.
A single earth tone color will partially accomplish this. Blending several of these colors together is better still.
Spending a lot of money for decals that replicate patterns (digital or otherwise) are expensive and certainly make the gun pretty.
However, they may not provide better camouflage than other methods.

Our priorities are:
Make the gun less visible
Minimal amount of time with the gun out of service
Minimal cost
Easy to retouch

We use only Aervoe paint. We find the Aervoe to be more true to color specs and be more durable. Aervoe is available at some of the larger gun supply sites.
If you do not have access to Aervoe use whatever matte colors you can lay hands on.

Prep.

Ignore PEO Soldier- Painting Your Rifle 101. They were smoking crack when they wrote this.
Use SLiP2000 725 cleaner or whatever cleaner you normally use (eg Simple Green etc)
. If the gun is heavily lubed wipe up the excess inside the upper and lower receivers- this will leak out.
Stuff some paper towel in the flash suppressor.
Put the lens covers on the optic.
If you have a white light on the gun, tape the lens and any rubber (push button, tape switch.
Remove anything you don’t want painted.

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Hint- the paint dries faster if the gun is warm. We use sunlight to accomplish that.



Use Aervoe 977 Sand (30277) or other light color tan or khaki for your base coat. Mist the gun with this paint. Use broad strokes to lightly cover the entire gun. Repeat with one or two more light coats.
Don’t look for 100% coverage and don’t use heavy coats of paint.
Painting the exterior of the barrel will not hurt anything. It will not burn off under normal to hard use.

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I use a small strip of camo net as a mask. If not available, you can cut small holes in an old sheet or paper.

Place the camo net over the gun and shoot a light coat of a brown through the net, I use Aervoe 480 Highland, but any similar color will do.
Don’t shoot through every hole, and don’t try to cover every square inch of the gun.

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If available, overspray with a Matte Clear spray. These are generally hard to come by in Matte.
Again, misting will give a flatter finish. Heavy coats will leave a shiny finish.



The entire job- minus prep and drying after the Matte Clear Coat- should take no longer than 20 minutes.

The gun should be shootable within an hour. If you have the ability to leave it in the hot sun to dry for several hours, so much the better.


We have taken guns out and shot them within an hour of painting.

If you are lacking time or a variety of colors, use Sand for a base coat and Olive Drab for spltches and overspray.
Brownish colors work almost everywhere (how many green animals have you seen?)

#31 is a little over a year old and has 13,000 rds downrange.

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Thanks Pat, good class. Not familiar with Aervoe, any major differences in wear time compared with Krylon?
The only reason we used Krylon was it was cheap and when we had to turn the Weapon in to the armory it was "reasonably" easy to get off.
Although I have it on good authority that using oven cleaner would not be the proper way to do this.
On the other hand has anyone else seen a M-16A2 that was silver?

Grey is like finish wear on a pistol; you can't fake that. Duke

Doc, the Aervoe colors, from info received and research, are more "true" to colors currently used in patterns such as MARPAT, AOR-1, and Multicam. Krylon is an inexpensive alternate, but wears quicker, and is not as accurate in color pallete.

Break Cleaner works the best for paint removal, unless you have a sonic tank and an air compressor.

I recommend brake cleaner on all metal parts applied by spray, wipe with shop rags/tooth brushes. On polymer parts, apply BC to a rag -THEN wipe down. It can have an effect on the polymer.

No trouble yet with Magpul products, or with SOPMOD stocks, but it has left some surfaces of other items "gummy". FYI.

GREAT tutorial, Gunner. Thanks!
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You're welcome--if you're handy in the woodshop, it wouldn't be hard at all to make one and most shops I've been in have enough scrap wood floating around to drive the material cost to zero...

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If one were to be looking for a color of the Aervoe paint to match FDE furniture from Magpul, would it be their Coyote color?
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Thanks for the painting tutorial Pat! Very informative and simple. Now I've got to go paint some rifles...
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Pat, pardon the stupid question, but when you paint the weapon do you leave the accessories & rail covers on the rail, or do them separate so the rail get's fully painted?

There's nothing wrong with being scared - you just can't let it get in the way of what is needed to be done. - River Rat

I just painted a rifle with Krylon and the base coat - which I used the most of - still has maybe a quarter of a can left. That said, I had no idea what I was doing and probably waaaay over did my base coat. I used almost none of the secondary colors...
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Thank you for this post. I'm painting my gun for the first time soon, and I like the fast & easy process you presented.

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Thanks Pat. I've been wringing my hands over painting my SR-556 for awhile now. Thanks for the tools and confidence-infusing pictures. It never really occurred to use a clear coat until now. I guess that's why we have the SMEs!

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Pat, Sweet Paint Job!!! I got a BCM/EAG carbine on order and hopefully I will have it and sighted in by the time Howell Woods class rolls around...Humm...Dinner on me for a Pat Rogers paint job??? Seriously, nice tutorial.

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Originally posted by CaptainVideo:
If one were to be looking for a color of the Aervoe paint to match FDE furniture from Magpul, would it be their Coyote color?


I'm interested in the answer for this also if anybody knows...

Thanks for the tutorial Pat

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Pat, do you get your paints in NOVA?

I'll be in that AO this weekend.

How does the paint hold up on rubbery material like ergo grips?

Thanks for the tutorial! That just motivated me to unfuck my black rifle.

"The Book of Pat” That’s epic patch material right there.

Thanks again..

Alex

 

 

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Originally posted by ateixeira:
Pat, do you get your paints in NOVA?

I'll be in that AO this weekend.

How does the paint hold up on rubbery material like ergo grips?

Thanks for the tutorial! That just motivated me to unfuck my black rifle.

"The Book of Pat” That’s epic patch material right there.

Thanks again..

Alex


I buy very little locally- (Lowes being a big exception).
I get my paint via the net.

Re ergo grips- beats me. I use TangoDown grips.
Sorry...
quote:
Originally posted by CaptainVideo:
If one were to be looking for a color of the Aervoe paint to match FDE furniture from Magpul, would it be their Coyote color?


Coyote Brown is NOT FDE. Coyote is Coyote, a more brown color.

I am not sure what color is a match for FDE.
I don't try to match anything- i just overpaint the whole shebang.
Oh Sure... Come on here with a common sense approach to camoing a gun that is practical and economically viable....

I see how you roll..... Wink


I like the tip on misting everything with a light OD... never thunk a that... your still da man..

How ironic... I happen to have a complete BCM Middy that is brand sapnking new just sitting down on the work bench.......
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Originally posted by Harv:
Oh Sure... Come on here with a common sense approach to camoing a gun that is practical and economically viable....

I see how you roll..... Wink


I like the tip on misting everything with a light OD... never thunk a that... your still da man..

How ironic... I happen to have a complete BCM Middy that is brand sapnking new just sitting down on the work bench.......


Brother Harv!
I was getting tired of people comung to class with high end paint jobs.
One student made a point of telling me how it took him 10 days to paint his rifle, to include a full day of prep.
About how he baked the finish on, a full day to dry between coats etc.

And then, tragedy. He noticed on T1 that as we were moving downrange to check targets his carbine rubbed up against something on his kit and the multiple layers of paint, lovingly aplied, chipped.....
Frown

He was crestfallen

I wasn't..especially after he started whining and wanted to take the rifle off and lay it on the ground so that he wouldn't further "damage" his paint job.
I gave him a choice- toe the line or leave.
He stayed, but pissed and moaned the whole time (NFE now ).

I don't care if some paint rubs off high wear areas. It gives the gun character.

If it really gets bad, i'll overspray it.

If i need to change colors, it is an easy thing to do.

It is not pretty, in the pristine, shiny, baked on way.
But it is effective.
And it takes up minimal time with minimal expense.

Sounds right to me.

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