Painting Your Carbine- from the Book of Pat

I looked back through the thread and didn't see this covered.
I finally painted my BCM, at least the furniture, haven't gotten the balls to paint the receiver and upper yet.

My question is, I painted the aimpoint cover, degreased it like the rest, and painted it, but the paint on the cover has remained tacky, like it hasn't dried yet, though it has been greater than 24 hours. Is it going to dry, or is it going to remain tacky since the cover is a rubber product. The lens covers are slightly tacky, but nothing like the cover.
Using Aervoe paint.
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I can't edit the above post, otherwise I'd just delete it since I posted this in the "I Blame Stephen..." thread, but figured I'd post it here since I added some tan since my last post.

I dusted the receivers and the front near the vert grip with some more Aervoe Sand. Most of the use this rifle will see will be in South Texas where browns are a little more common than green. I'll get some pics in that environment soon.

Again, I apologize or the size. I can't upload to Flickr from the iPad, o I'm using Photobucket, which apparently doesn't allow resizing.



Joe, that's legit.
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Here's Phase 1 of the paint job on M1A Scout #1...

Image 1 - before
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Image 2 - Base Coat


Image 3 - Partly done #1


Image 4 - Partly done #2


I used the good paint, and a sand/urban grey/forest green palette...


MarcD
OK, I have a question. No mil. background, and growing up in sub-urb/country under the keep your gun oiled(outside/rust protection)way of thinking.
How does painting the gun affect protecting it as far as corrosion goes? I know alot of the AR is alum. but haw about the steel parts and other guns(like bolt guns,SS barrels,etc.).
After painting, does oils hurt the paint or just not neccesary anymore?
Oil doesn't affect the paint unless you're using some weirdo paint-thinner type crap. Normal (EWL) lube won't hurt it. If it starts to wear off from cleaning... you're probably cleaning too much/too hard (at least on exterior surfaces that you painted). If it DOES wear off.. spray again. The paint is cheap, even the good stuff.

I'm no metallurgist, but the paint should give at least a small measure of corrosion protection on the surfaces it's on. Since it's covering the metal, it's harder for corrosion causing moisture to get to the metal.

 

 

 

 

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Marc emailed me his pics so I could link them since he was having issues.

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Originally posted by marcdanziger:
Here's Phase 1 of the paint job on M1A Scout #1...

Image 1 - before


Image 2 - Base Coat


Image 3 - Partly done #1


Image 4 - Partly done #2


I used the good paint, and a sand/urban grey/forest green palette...





MarcD
Thought I would share some large scale "Book of Pat" painting. Over the last few days my BN has been painting our weapons in prep for deployment. We used all five of the recommended colors from Aervoe and camo net. All told over 700 weapons of all types. Notice the Leupold MK6 1-6X optics on some of the M4s? I was able to arrange to get 351 of them for the guys out on patrol. They are a nice optic. All told not a bad job by the Soldiers. We just used the instructions from Pat and did mild course corrections with over zealous painters.




The whole battalion got the ok to do it? I am both bewildered and strangely aroused. Well done, gents!

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tpe187 that is brilliant. I'm glad for you guys since I'm convinced that camouflage saves lives and that the devil lies in the details.

Let's see when we can implement it here. 2024 perhaps?

Stay safe!

 

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As Pat said in the begining, one of the priorities is that it's easy to retouch, but what happens with the paint on the awsome looking M240 above when you dump some 250-600 rounds through the barrel?

Sure, you can always apply a new layer of paint when you clean the guns, but is it worth the time to use all three colors and the nets to get the excellent camouflage effect, compared to just use quick fixes with a single colour on the batterls?

 

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Sir,

That is truly awesome to see. Excellent work. You will save some lives (and take a few from those undeserving to have them) due to this. Bravo Zulu.

Toll,

Shooter's choice. They can either leave it unchanged, or touch it up during reset after a mission. It's their weapon system, they know what to do, and can decide on a course of action accordingly. A barrel doesn't take long to camo again, even with a tri-color scheme. Forest for the trees, dude...

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Simply put:

- I'm a BN XO
- I've known the Bde Cdr for 11 years
- Our weapons looked like garbage and trying to code them out for looks would be retarded
- I let my BN Cdr see one of my personal M4s painted using the same process and the TACOM message on painting M4s, he said Ok.

Unfortunately I feel like you have to be a traveling salesman and demonstrate everything for people to make a decent decision. I hope this helps others accomplish the same thing in their unit.
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Originally posted by Toll:
As Pat said in the begining, one of the priorities is that it's easy to retouch, but what happens with the paint on the awsome looking M240 above when you dump some 250-600 rounds through the barrel?

Sure, you can always apply a new layer of paint when you clean the guns, but is it worth the time to use all three colors and the nets to get the excellent camouflage effect, compared to just use quick fixes with a single colour on the batterls?


Good point. It is probably easier to paint the entire gun as was done rather than keep the barrel one color.

The upper barrel on my gun took 7 mags on FA and turned the color you see.
I imagine i could have re- painted it, but we replaced that gun (#77) with the lower gun (#21)

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Originally posted by tpe187:
Thought I would share some large scale "Book of Pat" painting. Over the last few days my BN has been painting our weapons in prep for deployment. We used all five of the recommended colors from Aervoe and camo net. All told over 700 weapons of all types. Notice the Leupold MK6 1-6X optics on some of the M4s? I was able to arrange to get 351 of them for the guys out on patrol. They are a nice optic. All told not a bad job by the Soldiers. We just used the instructions from Pat and did mild course corrections with over zealous painters.


Sir, you are awesome.
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Originally posted by Bowser:
Aervoe Sand, Earth Brown, OD.

I don't know if I will paint the optics and such.


Why not? It won't hurt the optics or the light. Just make sure you have something to protect the lenses from overspray.

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Painted this after watching the Pat Rogers Carbine DVD Bravo Co sent along with my new upper receiver. Thanks, Pat!

PS: Wish I knew how to put pics in the post!

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Originally posted by Bowser:
Aervoe Sand, Earth Brown, OD.

I don't know if I will paint the optics and such.


Why not? It won't hurt the optics or the light. Just make sure you have something to protect the lenses from overspray.


Get some paint on that optic and light and BUIS man.

Tape up all your adjustment indicators on the BUIS and hit it lightly with your base color which seems to be tan.

Take masking tape only slightly larger then the circumference of the Aimpoint. Attach the tape flat across the front and rear bezels as not to affect your lenses. Ensure a good seal all the way round and dust it as well.

Same bezel trick with the lights lens. No real need to tape off the pressure switch area if factory plug is in tact. I will suggest a light scuffing on the plastic tail cap in order to promote paint adhesion. It likes to flake off from that area of those lights.

Light dusting on all of it.

Nail polish remover and break cleaner on a rag rubber over common rattle can paint will safely easily remove it. Use caution near glass and plastics with such a method.

Same can be done on the rifle itself.
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Here is a little tip from my tanker brothers; use grease/vaseline on optics/lenses prior to painting. After drying, wipe it off. It allows you to get a little better coverage if you happen to have OCD. I tried it out on several weapons/optics/light combinations and it worked fine. Just another tool for the kit bag.

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