Painting Your Carbine- from the Book of Pat

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but what happens with the paint on the awsome looking M240 above when you dump some 250-600 rounds through the barrel?



Motherfucking painted machine guns make Odin happy!

Like in the picture of Pat's AR barrel above the barrel will turn a dark reddish brown color, which is still mucho bettero than target indicator black. Like Mick said when you RTB you repaint the fucker.

The following pics are of ze PKM with around 34,000 rounds through that barrel without repainting(The gun has been repainted 3 times).



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" I am Godzilla, YOU are Japan" -Critical Bill

So painting a can is no different than the barrel?

I used the Pat technique over a year ago and it is as stated, easy and fast. I used Krylon and Rustoleum cause thats what I had. it has rubbed off in high use areas, safety, grips, stock, where it rubs in the rack of my patrol vehicle, and where excess lube leaks out. It still is a great break up in pretty much all environments.

I'll post a pic when it gets back from the crew at Gem Tech (please be this week Wink)

I recently picked up an OBR 7.62...I'll be using Aervoe on that guy.

Thanks to all the info droppers in here.
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Jesus 03, you guys have enough Glocks?

Im no longer at that facility, moved on to bigger and better things, but can you ever really have enough blasters? I think not Wink

"Stay angry my friends"-the most dangerous man in the world.

 

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" I am Godzilla, YOU are Japan" -Critical Bill

looks like you used the cases to hold the workbench up there, 03 . . . that'd be a good use for them Big Grin

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Originally posted by tpe187:
Thought I would share some large scale "Book of Pat" painting. Over the last few days my BN has been painting our weapons in prep for deployment. We used all five of the recommended colors from Aervoe and camo net. All told over 700 weapons of all types. Notice the Leupold MK6 1-6X optics on some of the M4s? I was able to arrange to get 351 of them for the guys out on patrol. They are a nice optic. All told not a bad job by the Soldiers. We just used the instructions from Pat and did mild course corrections with over zealous painters.






That's awesome

"Do not pray for easy lives.  Pray to be stronger men" - JFK

About to take the plunge and paint up my colt. All I have is some of the camo "rustolium" and tested it out on some black kydex and after painting it has a real "chalky" feel...is this because of cheap paint that was used (not Aervoe) or is that just what to expect with any painted weapons? Would the clear coat help this?
thanks in advance
Derek
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Originally posted by dwenslen:
... after painting it has a real "chalky" feel...is this because of cheap paint that was used (not Aervoe) or is that just what to expect with any painted weapons? Would the clear coat help this?
thanks in advance
Derek

I had that happen on a few pieces I painted, too, and I used Aervoe. I figured out it was caused by misting from too far away and partially drying before it got to the gun. It was compounded by the fact it was outside, very light breaze and hot. Moving in a little closer solved the problem A little buffing with an old t-shirt got rid of the "chalky" feel.

As for clear coat ... I bought some but decided not to use it for fear it miight make it too glossy looking. YMMV

Good luck

 

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Originally posted by dwb:
So painting a can is no different than the barrel?


If anything, it is a lil bit quicker process. But yes, the end results were the same, at least on the can I had. Once the paint had gotten to that point, it didn't get all the paint off. Most of it, and turned brownish. But yeah, enough stayed on that you could just leave it alone, and it would still be camoed, and not target black.

Hope this helps.

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The photos of the Bn's weapons is amazing! I wish my SOP/GO would allow painted weapons... Frown

Brian
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- Billy Waugh

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- Robert "Paddy" Mayne

DSG Arms says that you can back order it. Brownells shows the can as a display, but doesn't list it as an option to buy. Aervoe has it on their site, but like you said, you'd have to buy six cans of the stuff. That might not be a bad choice. If you are anything like me, those six cans would only last you a year or two.
I may just try DSG then and hope for the back order to show up. I want to do a Rhodesian scheme and the light green is a must have according to my reference pictures.
I guess in a pinch I could order a case direct from Aervoe and sell the surplus on Ebay.
My inspiration-

tpe187: apart from the thread subj on the wpn painting ( ); Had to say JOB WELL DONE on the Leupold MK6 1-6X procurement, I hope they serve your guys well. Will be interested on hearing an AAR on the unit's experience w/the scopes as I haven't seen them employed in volume across a line unit - no doubt a different cross section than I've seen them worked in, and with that both different vulnerabilities/strengths to learn about.
regards, SS66

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Originally posted by tpe187:
Thought I would share some large scale "Book of Pat" painting. Over the last few days my BN has been painting our weapons in prep for deployment... Notice the Leupold MK6 1-6X optics on some of the M4s? I was able to arrange to get 351 of them for the guys out on patrol. They are a nice optic....


I just did my MP 15-22 and Benelli Nova tonight, using Pat's method. They turned out great. I can't believe I didn't do this before. Soon, all of my rifles will be painted. Now, black just looks so... 80's.

Notes of importance to anyone looking to do this:

It was balls cold in my garage, so I used my wifes hair dryer to warm the guns up. This sped up the paint drying process significantly. I constantly was using the hair dryer on the guns. It worked well.

I used an old pillowcase which I cut holes in
for a template. By the end of the second gun, it was fairly soaked with paint. I would use one "template" per gun for best results.

Don't try to make it look pretty. I started to think "Oh I need a little more brown, or green, to make it look even." Don't think that. You'll end up over doing it.

With the template, I just laid it on the gun, with no rhyme or reason, and sprayed. Pick it up, drop it in another spot, and spray. Repeat until the length of the gun is covered.

That's about all the advice I can give for anyone else wanting to try this.

If you're on the fence, DO IT.

I don't know how to post pictures, so no photos of my work. I'm kinda retarded when it comes to this internets thing.
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Cheers, Matt

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Originally posted by FNP45:
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Why hasn't this guy been banned yet?

Brian
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- Billy Waugh

‎"When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who makes a move, hostile or otherwise. He has started to think and is therefore dangerous."
- Robert "Paddy" Mayne

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Originally posted by BrianC:
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Originally posted by FNP45:
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Why hasn't this guy been banned yet?


Yeah! And, such language for a 'farmer'! Eek

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Originally posted by BrianC:
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Originally posted by FNP45:
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Why hasn't this guy been banned yet?


He's done this in all but one of his posts. I guess SHOT is the time to come here and troll.

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Okay so finally dropped an Aimpoint onto my carbine and just ordered cans of Aervoe. Anybody got a section of camo net they're willing to part with? I'll gladly pay for it & shipping. I'm in the middle of nowhere Vermont and would rather not order a big ass section just to paint a few guns.

Drop me a pm if you can hook a brother up.
Thanks Pat. Gonna have to get it down to one of your courses this summer.

Was a little dicey keeping the gun warm enough since it was only 12 degrees up here. Get it good and warm in the house, take it outside, spray, and bring it back in and sit it by the wood stove...
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Originally posted by falcon5:
Okay so finally dropped an Aimpoint onto my carbine and just ordered cans of Aervoe. Anybody got a section of camo net they're willing to part with? I'll gladly pay for it & shipping. I'm in the middle of nowhere Vermont and would rather not order a big ass section just to paint a few guns.

Drop me a pm if you can hook a brother up.


Where'd you order the paint from? You can only get cases direct from aervoe, and I just need 3 single cans and did some searching - no luck.

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"If you take a hammer/chisel to it, you're retarded, and that's your parents' problem, not mine." - Big Jake

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Where'd you order the paint from?

Not answering for falcon5 but DSG Arms for the win. I just recevied a few more cans from them last week.

RD

They will also sell you PMags without bending you over the table!! In the current environment you may have to wait but they won't "f**k you at the drive-thru" (so to speak).

 

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For those of you who believe history began when you were born, educate yourselves. ~ Pat Rogers

Adversity can shape and perfect us, and horrible adversity can make us champions. ~ Maskirovka

 

Joined: 26 Aug 2008           Location: The Libitard Center of Oregon

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Falco,

At your local supermarket they sell a dozen oranges in plastic net for a few bucks. It's a good improvised netting for the type who "wants it now". Nice color scheme and way to take your time.

Joined: 6/17/06

Location: conus

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Anyone have luck with ordering single cans of matte clear, yet? I don't need a case!

I'm looking for matte clear, also. 12 per case? What happens if we don't use it? Does it affect the paint job's durability? Does it become too bright? Thanks!

Edit to add: Also, will it be a problem if I paint outside in the current 40-55 degree temperatures?
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Originally posted by Bloody yank:
Falco,

At your local supermarket they sell a dozen oranges in plastic net for a few bucks. It's a good improvised netting for the type who "wants it now". Nice color scheme and way to take your time.



Actually, using a fruit net is not in The Book of Pat- but a camo net is...

While the fruit net is/ has been in some circles, all it does is make the gun look pretty, but has little if any camo properties.

We'll keep this particular thred on focus please...
It seems as if I was under the impression that I was in the blame stephan thread.

I also mistook the term camo netting for material used to break up a paint scheme and creating non book of pat patterns...thus suggesting orange fruit netting.

While were at it I also mistakenly referenced User Falcon5 as 'Falco'.
Confound my illiteracy.

Joined: 6/17/06

Location: conus

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Originally posted by Pat _Rogers:
Easy day Brother!

Pat, you are so-o-o-o-o-o forgiving. That is why we love ya (in a non-Navy way of course). Big Grin

RD

 

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For those of you who believe history began when you were born, educate yourselves. ~ Pat Rogers

Adversity can shape and perfect us, and horrible adversity can make us champions. ~ Maskirovka

 

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