Pig Saddle

I used the search and was surprised that I didn't find this topic discussed already. I'm looking into picking one of these up. Anyone have any experience with them?

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I have the MIL version called the HOG saddle extremely well made, tees up great with the Manfrotto tripod. The only observation I had was that it couldn't close on my Colt 901 due to the Magpul rail panels that made the forearm quite wide. Definitely worth the coin IMO. 

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I have the PIG Saddle and have had it on a couple tripods as well as bolt guns and my LMT 308. Works fine so far.

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I have been using the PRS saddles on the light Slik tripods for a couple of years. I thought I had shit figured out, and didn't see a reason for a pricey saddle like a Hog or Pig. Then Shadow2 gets a nice tripod and a pig. It is a night and day difference. I haven't used a Hog, but the Pig is good to go. I now feel the need for a very nice tripod and Pig or Hog saddle. I don't think you could be disappointed. I still like the PRS saddle, but it does not really compare to the Pig. Plus, the naming of the saddles is just classy as fuck.

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Location: Texas

Got one in a SLIK carbon fiber tripod.  Well worth the money.  Never used the HOG saddle, but the PIG allows me to do things I can't with the PRS saddle thing and a lighter tripod.  There are trade-offs (bulk and weight), but this thing is super duper pooper well built.  It gives me a lot of options I didn't have before. 

 

 

 

 

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Joined: 12-2005          Location: Central OK

Got the PIG on a heavy duty SLIK tripod. When they first released the PIG they had a nice intro price and I jumped on it.

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Slight thread drift, SPDSNYPR what model silk do you use?
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Originally Posted by DocGKR:

       
This is why LE in some areas would be better served with belt fed weapons and flame throwers...

       

Joined: 5.23.2009
Location: WA/ Canadian border

i THINK it's the 824 pro cf - they don't make them anymore I dont think.  The newer one is the 824 CFL with the locking legs.  They lock better than the one I have, which twists.  I don't like that feature, and have trying to talk my sister out of her manfrotto in trade.  

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You don't like the locking legs or the twist style?
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Originally Posted by DocGKR:

       
This is why LE in some areas would be better served with belt fed weapons and flame throwers...

       

Joined: 5.23.2009
Location: WA/ Canadian border

I've used a buddy's HOG Saddle in a match in the worse rain you could imagine at Woody's in NC last year. It on a Manfrotto was the shat for shooting out of a vehicle. I was getting 500+ yard hits no problem. I liked it so much I ordered my own HOG last week and my CF Manfrotto will be here Wed.

 

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Originally Posted by the shotty:
You don't like the locking legs or the twist style?

I dislike the twist style.  You can strip them if you are ham handed like me and over-tighten them. 

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So I'm resurrecting this as I didn't feel like my post required a new thread and I felt like it tied into this topic. What's the consensus on ball heads and what do you prefer? I've seen guys use manfrotto 322 grip heads but it looks like the weight rating is only 11 pounds which I feel is a little light. I have a 13lb rifle and a 17lb rifle that I plan on using in mountain/back country terrain.
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Originally Posted by DocGKR:

       
This is why LE in some areas would be better served with belt fed weapons and flame throwers...

       

Joined: 5.23.2009
Location: WA/ Canadian border
Originally Posted by the shotty:
So I'm resurrecting this as I didn't feel like my post required a new thread and I felt like it tied into this topic. What's the consensus on ball heads and what do you prefer? I've seen guys use manfrotto 322 grip heads but it looks like the weight rating is only 11 pounds which I feel is a little light. I have a 13lb rifle and a 17lb rifle that I plan on using in mountain/back country terrain.

 

 

I had a Manfrotto 322 and it did NOT work with a light CZ 455 (22lr trainer) or my pig of an AR10 (LMT MWS).  I now use the 322 for the spotter/range finder.

 

I've since bought a Manfrotto 055 ball head.  It's rated to 20+ pounds IIRC, and it so much more robust.  

 

I have also found that using cheap shooting sticks (Primos steady sticks magnum) along with your hog/pig saddle can yield a very stable shooting platform .  The sticks allow another point of contact right underneath the stock and really cut down on the last little bit of sway.  My first time using the new ball head/pig saddle and steady sticks combo I made 3 first round/consecutive hits on a steel target at 700 yards from a kneeling position.  The spotter said the hits were the size of a silver dollar.  

 

I can not recommend that setup enough.  

Originally Posted by Jon Lester:

       

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Tried all the popular brands of saddles and grips and have went back to a direct rail clip on.


       


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Never slips or slides, Virtually impossible to move, Faster into and out of, less weight, it Interchanges quickly with the spotter on the same Manfrotto. It grips the same in wet conditions. I can change my position/location rapidly and carry the tripod like a larger bipod connected to the weapon.

 

A welcome ray of sunshine on an otherwise gloomy day:

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I won't have any real-world usage on it, so any review on my part should be fairly meaningless.

It was between this and a bench rest. I don't really want a bench rest, but I did want something that could provide more stability than I can, preferably with the ability to use it whenever, wherever. Boom. Pig saddle. Hopefully it does what I want it to - and then some.

ETA - Shoot prone off a tripod? Can't be done! Its insanity!

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Well fuck me, it can be done. There is no way that magazine is coming out, but the rifle is roughly parallel to the floor with 2" at most between the floor and the bottom of the mag. It is obviously free standing as-is, but a rear bag would make it stupidly solid. I imagine it'll be great with bolt guns as well.

I put some research into tripods - everything from mild to wild. Lots of proven performers. Ultimately I couldn't shake the feeling that MAYBE the company that makes/sells Pig/Hog saddles is importing Cerakoted OD Green carbon fiber tripods from Norway for a reason. That MAYBE it was a clue

Chances are I was right. They're expensive as fuck, but it would appear that there is a lot of purpose built into the design. This pretty clearly is not, and was never meant to be, a camera tripod.

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The tripod is expensive but really not that bad for a HD carbon fiber set up considering the feisol, gitzo, and really right stuff start at close to $600 and can reach $1k pretty easy. 

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Originally Posted by DocGKR:

       
This is why LE in some areas would be better served with belt fed weapons and flame throwers...

       

Joined: 5.23.2009
Location: WA/ Canadian border
FastSS posted:

A welcome ray of sunshine on an otherwise gloomy day:

20170206_124549

I won't have any real-world usage on it, so any review on my part should be fairly meaningless.

It was between this and a bench rest. I don't really want a bench rest, but I did want something that could provide more stability than I can, preferably with the ability to use it whenever, wherever. Boom. Pig saddle. Hopefully it does what I want it to - and then some.

ETA - Shoot prone off a tripod? Can't be done! Its insanity!

20170206_165553

Well fuck me, it can be done. There is no way that magazine is coming out, but the rifle is roughly parallel to the floor with 2" at most between the floor and the bottom of the mag. It is obviously free standing as-is, but a rear bag would make it stupidly solid. I imagine it'll be great with bolt guns as well.

I put some research into tripods - everything from mild to wild. Lots of proven performers. Ultimately I couldn't shake the feeling that MAYBE the company that makes/sells Pig/Hog saddles is importing Cerakoted OD Green carbon fiber tripods from Norway for a reason. That MAYBE it was a clue

Chances are I was right. They're expensive as fuck, but it would appear that there is a lot of purpose built into the design. This pretty clearly is not, and was never meant to be, a camera tripod.

What tripod is that you are using?

http://stores.hogsaddle.com/prst-carbon-fiber-tripod/

The closest thing I'll ever get to a hot Norwegian... anything.

The three position leg angle locks are fat finger and ham hand proof, as are the leg length locks.

I didn't get a pic, but I took the legs to full length as well. On a flat surface the thing was tall enough with that rifle that I couldn't go below parallel without a ladder and even parallel was a stretch for me. I'm roughly 5'09".

Idk about most tripods but comfortable prone to above standing with a 40lbs load capacity in under 5lbs is pretty absurd - in a good way.

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Joined: 04Nov2007         Location: Indiana

I have the HOG saddle also. Feels very solid and well built; I plan on using on SCAR17s on it. UPS is on the way with a Sunwayfoto XB-52DL ball head as we speak...  I spent some bucks at this HOG saddle website! I also have one of their tripods on the way also (PRST Carbon Fiber Tripod) This will be my first time shooting off a tripod so I'm looking forward to seeing how it is. 

 

 
 

 

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This baby just arrived (PIG saddle with their new Slik - collaboration tripod). 

I haven't seriously shot with it yet, but I'm pretty happy for the money. The tripod feels real solid, but isn't overly heavy. It splays out far enough that shooting in the prone would be possible. I've mounted my 18" barreled AR on it and messed with positions, it's very secure and easy to get the hang of. 

 

I didn't go with a ball head mount to save money, but now I'm glad I didn't. I don't think it's needed (for me).

I've used this setup already for my day job, using the PIG saddle to hold a camera (overkill but it works frigging awesome for strange in-car positions and angles). 

I say I haven't seriously shot with it but I did throw my suppressed CZ 455 Varmint on there and ripped off 5 round strings at 60 yards into a 8" frying pan hanging on a tree. It was stupid easy.  I'm very happy so far, highly recommended. 

 

 

 

 

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Running the same system, PIG and Slik. No longer a sniper on the team, but still keeping my skills 

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