Please recommend a pack...

So I have a pack obsession. I cant ever seem to find the right one so i am asking for suggestions so i dont end up with a garage full of packs (i am well on my way).

Requirements:

1700-1900 cu in

Coyote brown

US made

 

Hydration compatable

 I have had many many packs and cant seem to find one that fits my needs properly. The sizing is a big deal becuase i ride a motorcycle to work and it cant be bulky yet it still has to function in my daily tasks. Thanks in advance.

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First-Spear Comm Pack Large, 1800 cubic inches, comes in a ranger green/coyote dual tone: http://www.first-spear.com/pro...p;cat=300&page=1

Tyr Tactical Huron Lightweight 3 Day, 1770 cubic inches: http://www.tyrtactical.com/pro...-assault-pack-3-day/

Mystery Ranch 3 Day Assault, 2000 cubic inches: http://www.mysteryranch.com/3-...ty=1&itemcolor=2

Mystery Ranch Crewcab, 1900 cubic inches, super-expandable for other use: http://www.mysteryranch.com/ni...ty=1&itemcolor=2

Tactical Tailor Urban Operator Pack, 1836.75 cubic inches: http://www.tacticaltailor.com/urbanoperatorpack.aspx

Kifaru X-Ray, 1800 cubic inches: https://store.kifaru.net/x-ray...i295-liters-p50.aspx

Arc'teryx Khard, 1830 cubic inches, not made in USA (Philippines?): http://leaf.arcteryx.com/produ...;model=Khard-30-Pack

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

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Kifaru?

https://store.kifaru.net/x-ray...i295-liters-p50.aspx

Sotech?

http://sotechtactical.com/coll...ited-edition-kryptek

http://sotechtactical.com/coll...products/mactac-pack

Eagle?

http://eagleindustries.com/pro.../detail.aspx?id=1085

http://eagleindustries.com/products/detail.aspx?id=9

http://eagleindustries.com/products/detail.aspx?id=9

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blackhatch46 posted:

So I have a pack obsession. I cant ever seem to find the right one so i am asking for suggestions so i dont end up with a garage full of packs (i am well on my way).

Requirements:

1700-1900 cu in

Coyote brown

US made

Hydration compatable

 I have had many many packs and cant seem to find one that fits my needs properly. The sizing is a big deal becuase i ride a motorcycle to work and it cant be bulky yet it still has to function in my daily tasks. Thanks in advance.

That is a pretty broad range requirement. Most anything should fit it.

To help us narrow down what you are looking for, could you expand on this : "still has to function in my daily tasks" a little?

What are the daily tasks that are not being met by the "many, many packs"?

What do you want this pack to do? Be skinny? Be stable? Be modular? Be organized internally? Carry coffee, lunch or a rifle? Are you long in the torso?

Ya know, the Made in USA thing is important as a matter of principle and whenever practical. But I ain't turning down a  German made Porsche .  

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Yea I wasn't extremely descriptive because I was posting from my phone.  How it carries on the motorcycle is very important. I have a TT modular operator and it just hangs too low. I currently use  a PIG 40 hour pack and that damn thing hangs high as hell. I feel like dora with that shit on my shoulders. Works great on a PC but not as daily use. I had the SO tech Mactac, those straps were horrid and they dont have coyote. If the ATS raid was 300 more cuin i think it would be perfect. So anythin g similar but not 400 dollars like tad, kifaru, arcteryx.  I really looked into the TT urban operator but it lacks hydration capability. I need to carry 3L daily. I run daily with the pack and fly with it as well.

It would help to know what the hell you do for a living and what must go in it.

 

A RAID with a claymore pouch (or two) on the outside carries a hell of a lot, and the claymores add quite a but if room. Not sure if it's 300 but a lot.  I effectively lived out of/worked from a RAID set up that way (1 extra claymore and a vertical GP, plus two TT GP larges on the sides) for several years. Hangs well, doesn't flop around. I don't ride bikes but I never had an issue with it on foot moving around, unless stupidly loaded down (240, 700 round ammo can at the same time plus RAID, etc).

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Its basically EDC for work. I am USMC helo mechanic/aircrew. I have to have a change of civvies in case we go down somewhere, basic overnight gear, two nalgenes, 3L bladder, admin shit (pens, notepads), chow, FAK, some tools, and a little bit of extra room for misc gear from flying or if i need room for extra crap. The TT urban operator would be perceft if there was a bladder slot and routing. THe extra pouches is a last resort. Flying i need to have the pack as slim and out of the way as possible. This is why i am so particular on the cu in. Via my various other packs, i have learned that is the ideal range in capacity for me.

I'd be looking at a couple of the Arcteryx packs or a couple of the newer TT and Kifaru offerings, they can go fairly slick on the outside. As aircrew, I can certainly understand wanting to keep everything internal as much as possible.

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I vote a Khard 45 or 60. 

A FirstSpear Mike force pack may also work well, plus made in USA. 

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Sorry, i suck at conversions. Khard 30 would fit the bill in that case. Grey Ghost Gear may also have some offerings that may fit the needs you expressed. 

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Iooked at ggg's 3 day pack but the dont list volume. I fear its too big as well. Fits the bill everywhere else though. As for the khard 30, i cant see spending that much on a pack when i can get far more bang for my buck with same quality in other brands.

blackhatch46 posted:

Iooked at ggg's 3 day pack but the dont list volume. I fear its too big as well. Fits the bill everywhere else though. As for the khard 30, i cant see spending that much on a pack when i can get far more bang for my buck with same quality in other brands.

What's your budget? Being active duty, you do qualify for LEAF pricing.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


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blackhatch46 posted:

Iooked at ggg's 3 day pack but the dont list volume. I fear its too big as well. Fits the bill everywhere else though. As for the khard 30, i cant see spending that much on a pack when i can get far more bang for my buck with same quality in other brands.

The volume of the main pocket on the pack is 1636 cu in (obtained from just using the stated measurements on the webpage).  Add the volume of the front pocket and you've got 1981.75 cu in.

I agree with the point made above about throwing a Claymore pouch on the front of a RAID and just calling it a day.  If the need ever arises you can add two side vertical utility pouches and bump up the capability.

It's not always about raw volume, in my opinion.

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You cant calculated lxwxh and get volume on an irregularly shaped object like a pack. It would give a ballpark estimate tnough. I think my choices have narrowed down to ats raid 2 and ggg 3 day pack. Just not sure on volumes. Remember i want as little outside bulk as possible. No pouches if i can help it.

Then I also recommend  loking past the USA-only angle, and buy a pack made in an allied country - The Sabre 30 - also on the Grey Ghost Gear site and offered in Coyote. 

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doomonyou posted:

What about a MR 3 day assault?

Not U.S. made but camelbak , 5.11 rush 24, 72, maybe a north face of some sort? 

Hill People Gear has some nice stuff as well.

I have had the 5.11 packs. I dont like them because their quality and country of origin. I have a few camelbak packs which i really like, i just dont want my edc to be from taiwan. I love the trizip and i use it as my hunting pack. I looked into hill people gear and just cant hit that sweet spot in capacity.

Blackhatch,

Sample size of one, but I was an ordie and winged AC as an aerial observer on shitters.

I used an original CB LF RAID I in exactly the role you need. Civvies, skivvies, hygiene gear, a laptop and snacks all fit with room to spare if I took the right time packing it.

I had a poncho liner, packable camp hammock and inflatable camp pillow stuffed in a cheap stuff sack in case we had to spend a night in the Hotel Sikorsky. String it up between the fuselage members and you're living in style!

I had ATS  upright GP pouches, large i think, on the sides for my more frequently used tools and shwag, a camelback bottle pouch with bottle and cup above one of the GPs, and my issued IFAK with some added booboo stuff and an ATS admin pouch above on the front.

On a less practical, more cool guy note, the velcro patch on the RAID is pretty much perfectly sized for a flight suit nametag or a shoulder size det or TMS patch to give ground side Staff NCOs aneurysms when you go over to Lejeune/mainside Pendleton. 

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blackhatch46 posted:

maybe if someone showed a pic of a raid with a common item in it for size reference that may help.  two nalgenes perhaps? or a 15in laptop?

The stud board in the sticky section, has a thread directly for the Raid. 51 pages, start at the end as the earlier pics might not be there anymore.

Boston Mick posted:

Blackhatch,

Sample size of one, but I was an ordie and winged AC as an aerial observer on shitters.

I used an original CB LF RAID I in exactly the role you need. Civvies, skivvies, hygiene gear, a laptop and snacks all fit with room to spare if I took the right time packing it.

I had a poncho liner, packable camp hammock and inflatable camp pillow stuffed in a cheap stuff sack in case we had to spend a night in the Hotel Sikorsky. String it up between the fuselage members and you're living in style!

I had ATS  upright GP pouches, large i think, on the sides for my more frequently used tools and shwag, a camelback bottle pouch with bottle and cup above one of the GPs, and my issued IFAK with some added booboo stuff and an ATS admin pouch above on the front.

On a less practical, more cool guy note, the velcro patch on the RAID is pretty much perfectly sized for a flight suit nametag or a shoulder size det or TMS patch to give ground side Staff NCOs aneurysms when you go over to Lejeune/mainside Pendleton. 

Semper fly, brother!

Yea im starting to think its my best option. I know this is an ATS forum so its biased, but thats also why i joined here. Thanks.

gb88 posted:
blackhatch46 posted:

maybe if someone showed a pic of a raid with a common item in it for size reference that may help.  two nalgenes perhaps? or a 15in laptop?

The stud board in the sticky section, has a thread directly for the Raid. 51 pages, start at the end as the earlier pics might not be there anymore.

yea i looked at some of those. Nothing really stood out as obvious but ill take a closer look today. thanks.

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