Recommendations for a Quick on Minimalist Plate Carrier

 I am looking for a quick on minimalist plate carrier.  I am not swat or anything like that, just have decided that I need to have access to a plate carrier and plates. I am looking at First Spear's First On Carrier with the med pouch and two mag pouches.

Anything anyone else can suggest? 

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So, a bump in the night carrier? Think about how easy it is to get on, how much noise you make, if you have the time for that. 

Some old threads discussing it, and these issues/options. Think about what happens if caught out with it half-on. Can you work and fight from it not strapped on, and just hanging off your shoulders? Where is your gun during the donning procedure? Etc. 

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stoner01 posted:

BKS  I have a first gen Blue Force Gear plateminus in black. Minimalist  can carry what you need and is low profile. PM me if you're interested .

Yeah.  It doesn't get more minimalist than that.  Mine with my plates in was thinner than the old carrier without the plates in.

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Speed of donning is really a function of regular practice... and motivation. Less about design.

Once upon a time in Baghdad's Green Zone, I could habitually wake from deep sleep, roll off my cot, and don a completely kitted out Eagle Maritime CIRAS (full up soft & plate armor chassis), ACH, ballistic glasses, and get proned out... in well under 29 seconds. Which was about the maximum counter-mortar radar/Giant Voice siren warning to impact time for incoming rockets & mortars. I got to where I could accomplish that task swiftly, routinely, & consistently. My T-wall surrounded CHU (sleeping hut) was too far from the nearest concrete bomb shelter to make a sprint ... so I'd just hug the floor and wait for the crump or blast of impacts. While on the floor, I'd fasten bedside Teva sandals to feet, don Nomex flight gloves, and then reach up to secure my pistol (kept under my pillow). Long gun already laid out on floor alongside cot. NODs, ammo, water, IFAK, etc. already attached to CIRAS.  Weapons not relevant for an indirect fire attack, but I liked to get them to hand in case I needed to leave & go outside.  Everything in its place, grabbed in order of need (armor first, helmet second, clear ballistic glasses third, etc.), and no fumbling in the dark for other bullshit like small arms, footwear, cell phone, ID,  etc.

That big armor rig sat carefully positioned on the floor next to my cot. Everything needed for "Whump in the Night" pre-placed for handy access... and in order of priority for fast donning. I simply lifted that heavy rig up and over my head/shoulders... and slapped the open side of Velcro strap haphazardly closed.

My point is that any rig (soft armor, plate carrier, full chassis) can be donned very rapidly as long as it's close at hand, pre-positioned for immediate and unencumbered grasping, and you have periodically practiced donning it. Today I keep soft armor and a loaded duty belt hanging inside of the bedroom closet. I can don those pretty quickly too.  One side closure of the armor stored always fastened, the other left open. Over my head, drop, and a quick sweep of the open-side's Velcro closure strap to secure the rig snugly. 

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We have a number of First Spear First0On carriers fielded here. They work for what they are: very fast and give you some important tools in dedicated pouches, as long as you set it up (sizing) before hand. However, they are not an ideal option for any type of sustainment. You get exactly what you need (and nothing else) with a great deal of speed at the expense of any comfort. They are a great option if you are looking to outfit a large group of different sized people with the same piece of equipment, or if several people have to share the same piece of equipment. This is pretty much exactly what the carrier was designed to do.

I also have a First Spear STT plate carrier (the original model) for my personal carrier. It is just as fast, the plates sit exactly where they should and in my humble opinion (many hundreds of hours of use), is a superior carrier made by the same company. As noted above, if it has tubes, its fast. That being said, as Astronomy said, its a matter of practice and motivation. I was pretty fast with my Diamondback SPEAR-cut when I had to be.

Sinister posted:

The original Diamondback Tactical is a great, fast on-off if you can find one.  No velcro cummerbund, just don, one buckle, and go.

The Tyr Tactical BPC is almost the same. One big buckle to clip on the sides. 

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I have this set up for active shooter armor at work. I’m a Firefighter so it’s more set up for Rescue task force work and is loaded with med supplies. I bought it personally since city admin doesn’t feel like ponying up and equipping us with vests.

However it’s quick to don, fairly inexpensive, and well made. It hasn’t gotten much use other than I use it for working out but it’s held up well and is comfortable. 

https://www.shellbacktactical....ith-level-iv-plates/

In recommendation of a plate carrier, I'll suggest looking at products from Beez Combat Systems. I have one of their soft/plate armor vests done up to my specifications. Excellent quality, customer communications, delivery times, and pricing. Affordable professional use gear. I'll leave the exact plate carrier model choice to the OP. They offer a wide variety of styles & options and do customization without scorching your wallet:

https://beezcombatsystems.com/Plate-Carriers_c4.htm

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Another option is the Grey Ghost Minimalist PC, relatively inexpensive and pretty well made with 2 generously sized SR buckles on the sides. Rocked it for psd work and was comfortable and adjustable enough.

Just googled and see that they have a hypalon version now, in addition to the OG 500D Cordura one.

Using a SKD STT bought from a LF'er and it is also legit.

But as Astronomy says above...it's all about setting yourself up for success by prepping and training.


 

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Not a swatologist, just a handler. 

I have a Ferro Concepts Slickster for quick throw on over my uniform w/issued IIIA concealed body armor.   I have found that it's nice and low pro even over the body armor.   I have their triple 5.56 turnover mag pouch and I have some med stuff  and a few ASP tri-fold plastic cuffs in the elastic cummerbund.  

They also have a molle rear plate pocket option for the slickster if you need molle on the back. 

https://ferroconcepts.com/products/the-slickster

J_B posted:

Not a swatologist, just a handler. 

I have a Ferro Concepts Slickster for quick throw on over my uniform w/issued IIIA concealed body armor.   I have found that it's nice and low pro even over the body armor.   I have their triple 5.56 turnover mag pouch and I have some med stuff  and a few ASP tri-fold plastic cuffs in the elastic cummerbund.  

They also have a molle rear plate pocket option for the slickster if you need molle on the back. 

https://ferroconcepts.com/products/the-slickster

This is what I upgraded to.

Because...........Malinois 

I wound up getting a Grey Ghost Minimalist carrier. 

 

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"Fuck the know it alls.They don't have to do it, and don't have the balls to do it"

Pat Rogers.

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