Rimfire Rigs

Does anyone have experience with the CZ 455 Tacticool?  I hate the name but I'm looking for a rimfire match to my Rem 700 AAC in a Magpul hunter stock, for use with a supressor.  I'd love an Anschutz  but that's not in the cards right now.

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LobsterClaw207 posted:

Seeing as this is Rimfire Rigs, and there's about 20 places I could ask this...

 

Wsup with subsonic .22 ammo? I've got a bunch of CCI subsonic I've been trying to use in my M&P 15-22 and my Ruger 22/45 pistol, both suppressed. Both are quiet enough out shooting, but don't cycle either action.

 

Is there a subsonic out there that will? Or is this the nature of the beast. Non-subsonics, even CCI "standard velocity" is way too loud out of both with my SilencerCo Sparrow attached.

Try target ammo, eley, etc? The sparrow isn't the quietest can, and you have port noise to contend with (i.e. noise from the can isn't loudest thing you are hearing).

LobsterClaw207 posted:

Wsup with subsonic .22 ammo? I've got a bunch of CCI subsonic I've been trying to use in my M&P 15-22 and my Ruger 22/45 pistol, both suppressed. Both are quiet enough out shooting, but don't cycle either action.

 I use Aguila Subsonic Solid Point 40 grains in my M&P 22, Walther P22 and GSG-5 22LR all with a SilencerCo Warlock II and they all cycle great with that ammo. It is the only subsonic 22lr ammo I have found so far that will cycle reliably in those guns. Academy Sports + Outdoors has it on sale every so often at $3.99 for a 50 round box with free shipping (over $25.00).

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Ground Pounder posted:

I'm looking to replace the barrel on my 10/22 in something 16" and threaded and into the Magpul stock. Any recommendations on barrels? I don't want super expensive ( over $200) and something that will shoot Federal bulk pack ammo well. It's nice to see .22 ammo is back available and at reasonable prices again. 

Got asked the same question today by a friend of mine who wants to get into target shooting with .22s.   Anyone have any thoughts about offerings that I can recommend?  He's got the Magpul stock already and a Vortex scope for it.    I suggested a barrel upgrade and a trigger, any other parts that can be replaced to help reliability and accuracy?

concentric posted:
Ground Pounder posted:

I'm looking to replace the barrel on my 10/22 in something 16" and threaded and into the Magpul stock. Any recommendations on barrels? I don't want super expensive ( over $200) and something that will shoot Federal bulk pack ammo well. It's nice to see .22 ammo is back available and at reasonable prices again. 

Got asked the same question today by a friend of mine who wants to get into target shooting with .22s.   Anyone have any thoughts about offerings that I can recommend?  He's got the Magpul stock already and a Vortex scope for it.    I suggested a barrel upgrade and a trigger, any other parts that can be replaced to help reliability and accuracy?

Depends on how much he wants to spend. My factory 10/22 mid weight barrel shoots lights out.

There are all kinds of barrel and trigger upgrades. KIDD is the name in 10/22's ..Volquartzen, Feddersen Barrels....TacSol...

Tell him to go to Rimfire Central and start reading the 10/22 section....more info then he could imagine.

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Sinister posted:

Remington 40X (standard weight barrel, 700-style handle).  CMP $400 surplus rifle dropped into an H-S 700P stock.

 This one's in an H-S 700V stock:

 

Damn, I tried finding one of those over here for my .22LR trainer project: collectors items & well over the USD400 you paid.

A quick post on my latest:  Ruger Single Six Hunter Convertable, 22LR/22WMR

 

Topped with a Simmons 4x scope.  I was the only one on campus, it being a holiday, so it was time for some range play.  I had 5 different types of 22 ammo in the bag: Bulk Remington, Federal Champion, CCI MiniMags, CCI Blazer and Fed GMM. 

25 yard groups fired from the fold down/up tray table on the Caswell firing points (indoor police range). 

These are 10 shot groups.  A steadier rest and younger eyes (too many floaties) and they could improve.  The GMM group on the bottom was about the size of dime.

The scope rings came with the pistol.  With this scope, the rear sight has to be removed.  Simply unscrew the elevation adjustment all the way, carefully lift up and recover the spring, and take out the hinge pin.  I am really pleased with this gun.

 Im not "High Speed", Im "Non-Stick"

"I am really pleased with this gun."

     I would definitely think so.  Now that is a squirrel gun!  That would be fun in the woods.

Please let us know how it shoots the 22mag  when you give it a try. ..if you can find any.  That stuff has been unobtainium for some time around here.

 

As requested, some 22WMR.  All of these are 5 shot groups.  WMR is still scarce, but it does show up from time to time.  Sadly, there is  a HUGE price difference between what I bought years ago vs what is on the shelf.  For those unfamiliar, the little green sticker is a TN ammo tax stamp. 

Winchester Supreme.  I dont have the product number, but obviously this load works.

Speer Gold Dot, Short Barrel ammo.  I'd buy THAT for a dollar!!

The most common WMR on the shelf.  Yeah, shooting WMR is more expensive than shooting 9mm, 40SW, maybe even 45 Auto.  The group has opened up a bit, but it is still 'game effective' for anything large enough to need WMR- ground hogs, coyote, etc.

Definitely something going on here.  This was the second group of the day (the Win was the first) so this cannot be attributed to shooter warm-up.   This round shoots awesome in my Henry levergun, and I had high hopes it in the Ruger.  It might see a re-visit just to confirm the results.

I have never gotten very good accuracy with this ammo out of any WMR I have owned.  Like the Rem load above, something  is happening here.  Unfortunatly, I dont have enough ammo to fire groups isolating each chamber in the cyclinder, but given the other hits on paper with the Win and Speer loads, I doubt the timing/alignment is off.

 

The price tag on this pistol is pretty steep in comparison to many other rimfires, but I think the results justify the cost.  Bonus points, I am consuming less ammo on the range (less cost per session) and I can shoot 22 Shorts, Longs, and Long Rifle in one cylinder, and WMR in the second.  For the 'prepper/survivalist/woodsman' types, this handgun takes the place of two rifles.

 

BTW, groups were fired from the same firing point, using the same plastic box/towel combo to rest it on, at 25 yrds.

 

 Im not "High Speed", Im "Non-Stick"

Well I'll bump this thread again.

Last year I dipped my toe back in to long range rifles again with a Ruger PRS in 308. Knowing that I'm a little bitch about being cold now that I don't "have" to be, I would have the winter months without my favorite national grasslands lands spot to shoot and wanted to maintain fundamental skills with the constraints of an indoor range. Thus the need for a .22 bolt gun was identified and I spent a few months hemming and hawing, aka researching. 

Purchased a Savage MK II TRR-SR, think I paid $400 and didn't feel the need to do much to her besides putting taking off the abomination that is the tri-rail mounts..Who the fuck needs a whimpy tri-rail on a .22?!?!?!?!?!? added a Primary Arms 4-14 scope, bipod,  stock pack and AAC 51t ((spares out of the parts bin) during the wait for my sparrow can. Of course every gun deserves a paint job if you're really tacticool ya know.

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Completely accurate beyond my skill set, great training tool and cat/squirrel controller (when I get the HH6 blessings that is). Heavy for a typical .22 especially compared to the ubiquitous 10/22 but fits the role exactly as hoped. Been running Aguilar (SP) subsonic and I just can't stop giggling Everytime I shoot her. Easily able to stack holes at 50 & 75 meters as long as I have ammo.

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Sinister posted:

Remington 40X (standard weight barrel, 700-style handle).  CMP $400 surplus rifle dropped into an H-S 700P stock.

 This one's in an H-S 700V stock:

I suppose adapting a 40x to feed from a magazine would be a complete bastard of a job?

My most used rimfire rig as of late doesn't seem as high-speed or low drag as a lot of them here, but here we go ...

Its a standard 10-22 in carbine length (18 inches) moved over to a Hogue overmold stock fitted with a USGI web sling.  I put on a set of the Nodak sights (front and rear), and dropped in a Power Custom trigger and auto-bolt release.  I built this gun to go to an Appleseed shoot, and it was more than enough to make their Rifleman patch on my first go around.   I was shooting Norma "Tactical" ammo for that I think.  Since then I use it to practice my service rifle shooting on the cheap.  I have never vised it down, but slung up a five shot group can be covered by a nickle at 25 meters, which is sufficient for an Appleseed shoot.

It's also the rifle I have been teaching the fundamentals of marksmanship to my boys with.  They got a lot from this rifle and the old 1940s M1 Garand US Army training video.

My 10/22 -

This is built on my first gun purchased when I turned 18.

Original receiver

Magpul Stock

18" Green Mountain Barrel

Kidd bolt

Original trigger reworked by Brimstone - best $38 spent IMO

LaRue Tactical Rail

Bushnell Ultra Legend 4.5x14 glass

Burris rings

It is a practice rifle as .22 LR is much cheaper than 6.5 CM. It will shoot 1 hole at 25 yards and 1/2 inch groups at 50 using cheap ammo.

 ETA - it is sitting on a Harris bypod using the LaRue mount that replaces the Harris mount portion of it. It moves around from rifle to rifle based on current use.

 

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I post this not as a brag that I have one, but simply to express a dream.  A dream that could perhaps become a reality if someone happened to know where a stock could be found.

The picture is a Springfield M1922-M2, .22LR training rifle.  I got to shoot one when I was a kid and at the time, I found it very heavy, but on a rest, very accurate.  I would love to reproduce it on a Ruger 77/22 if I could find a wooden stock to match.  Is it as practical as a synthetic stock?  Absolutely not, but the nostalgia and soul healing magic of honest wood and steel makes it desirable.  So if anyone knows of an old time wooden stock for the Ruger, let me know.

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Dorsai posted:

I post this not as a brag that I have one, but simply to express a dream.  A dream that could perhaps become a reality if someone happened to know where a stock could be found.

The picture is a Springfield M1922-M2, .22LR training rifle.  I got to shoot one when I was a kid and at the time, I found it very heavy, but on a rest, very accurate.  I would love to reproduce it on a Ruger 77/22 if I could find a wooden stock to match.  Is it as practical as a synthetic stock?  Absolutely not, but the nostalgia and soul healing magic of honest wood and steel makes it desirable.  So if anyone knows of an old time wooden stock for the Ruger, let me know.

If it's just the old school look and feel of wood and steel you are lookin for..there are plenty of older Remington, Winchester, Mossberg, etc .22's out there. Various conditions, and what not...but can shoot great. Look over a Rimfire central, they have specific forums for just about any old rimfire you come across. Bet it would be easier, simpler and cheaper then finding an old time style stock for a 77/22

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Dorsai posted:

The picture is a Springfield M1922-M2, .22LR training rifle.  I got to shoot one when I was a kid and at the time, I found it very heavy, but on a rest, very accurate.  I would love to reproduce it on a Ruger 77/22 if I could find a wooden stock to match.  Is it as practical as a synthetic stock?  Absolutely not, but the nostalgia and soul healing magic of honest wood and steel makes it desirable.  So if anyone knows of an old time wooden stock for the Ruger, let me know.

There are some for sale on Gunbroker. It might be easier to buy one there.

If not, there is a guy on rimfirecentral.com that makes custom wood stocks. Maybe he could make a stock for you?

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So if pistols are a go this is what I am shooting at the moment -

Ruger MKIII Hunter.

I replaced the wood grips with black plastic because I think the black color looks better but also like the checkered texture.

I removed the magazine safety using a Clark bushing and pin. While I was in there I put in a Volquartsen disconnector. The factory sear had a chip in the corner so I swapped that out with a Volquartsen sear and spring.

The mounting plate is from Outer Impact. Pretty neat as it is drilled for multiple sights. You remove the locating pins and put them in another location.

The RM04 was borrowed from a friend to see how I like an RDS on a pistol. It is nice to work on presentation while shooting cheap ammo.

Trigger is really nice and I am digging the RDS. The only drawback is that it is sort of heavy.

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For a nostalgic Wood stocked but accurate .22, maybe the Stevens 416 X Barrel?  I have one, passed down from my Grandfather, and its a fun gun to shoot.

This one isn't mine, but for reference:

Stevens 416 X barrel 

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M&P22..Williams Firesights..adjustable rear. Stippled by a former co-worker.

22 can by Innovative Weaponry. M3 light so it fits the holster. I like it..shoots ok enough. But, for a real trainer..it could be better. Thumb safety is just slightly positioned differently then the center fire, and reloads..can be problematic. But ya know...if I ever go to another shoot house class..I could see doing it with this gun.

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I've posted this before...

1966 High Standard Tournament. Tuned up by Dave Sams. Pure marksmanship gun...one of my favorite guns to shoot. Dave squared, polished, deburred etc all the necessary internals, did a 2# trigger job, stippled  the front and back straps and did a bead blast blue job. Target grips from Sile..old school. 

I've got a Buckmark Field Target with a trigger job from Sams, that I'm waiting to modify the scope rail, and mount a UltraDot.

Sams has yet another BM of mine..has a tacsol barrel. Mostly I couldn't get back together, so I sent it to him, it'll end up with a field/hunting trigger job.



And for old school Blue and wood..

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Remington 540X...didn't make a lot of them..late 60s early 70's IIRC.

It's like a mini 788 action..six rear locking lugs, extremely fast lock time. Will shoot with some Anschutz rifles.

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I picked up a Winchester 69A bolt action and will be taking it to the range this Saturday for the first time.  Since they were made from 1934 to 1963, before they were required to have a serial number, none of them did.  The 69A had one real visual change and that was the bolt handle.  After WWII, the bolt handle acquired a slight bend to the rear.  So mine was made some time between 1945 and 1963.  Since it could have been made in any of those years, I have arbitrarily decided it was manufactured the same year that I was.  Prove me different.  It has a Lyman micrometer rear sight and I have hopes that it will shoot tiny groups.

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This is a Walther SportModell that was gifted to our family. I'm told its former employ was Notre Dame High School for Boys rifle team, obviously back when it was okay to raise boys to become men. When the team was disbanded it went to the local American Legion, and some years later to us.

It has aftermarket aperture sights. It has a serial number, but I was told it's likely pre-war, so not sure if imports jive with previous poster's time frame.

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It locks up like a bank vault and shoots better than I can hold.

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Dorsai posted:

I picked up a Winchester 69A bolt action and will be taking it to the range this Saturday for the first time.  Since they were made from 1934 to 1963, before they were required to have a serial number, none of them did.  The 69A had one real visual change and that was the bolt handle.  After WWII, the bolt handle acquired a slight bend to the rear.  So mine was made some time between 1945 and 1963.  Since it could have been made in any of those years, I have arbitrarily decided it was manufactured the same year that I was.  Prove me different.  It has a Lyman micrometer rear sight and I have hopes that it will shoot tiny groups.

 

I had one I inherited from my Great-Uncle, wish I still had it! Nice gun.

 

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