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Originally Posted by LobsterClaw207:

Can someone tell me if I need a spacer or adapter to use my SilencerCo Sparrow suppressor on the S&W 15-22? My 15-22 is the one that came with a flash hider on it.

 

I'm getting conflicted info, my Sparrow stamp is in, and I want to know if I need to order some other part or piece to make it work and where to get it. 

 

Thanks!

 

Measure your thread length, .6 is standard AR spec and is too long, .4 is standard 22 spec and is what it's supposed to be.  FYI just picked up my sparrow last week and there was a spacer included with the can, so it may not be a big deal if the threads are .6

Originally Posted by bigmerv:
Originally Posted by LobsterClaw207:

Can someone tell me if I need a spacer or adapter to use my SilencerCo Sparrow suppressor on the S&W 15-22? My 15-22 is the one that came with a flash hider on it.

 

I'm getting conflicted info, my Sparrow stamp is in, and I want to know if I need to order some other part or piece to make it work and where to get it. 

 

Thanks!

 

Measure your thread length, .6 is standard AR spec and is too long, .4 is standard 22 spec and is what it's supposed to be.  FYI just picked up my sparrow last week and there was a spacer included with the can, so it may not be a big deal if the threads are .6

 

Hell yeah, thanks man!

 

 

 

 

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Seeing as this is Rimfire Rigs, and there's about 20 places I could ask this...

 

Wsup with subsonic .22 ammo? I've got a bunch of CCI subsonic I've been trying to use in my M&P 15-22 and my Ruger 22/45 pistol, both suppressed. Both are quiet enough out shooting, but don't cycle either action.

 

Is there a subsonic out there that will? Or is this the nature of the beast. Non-subsonics, even CCI "standard velocity" is way too loud out of both with my SilencerCo Sparrow attached.

 

 

 

 

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Aguila SSS (sniper sub sonic) had a 60gr head and cycles my Volquartsen Fusion perfectly.  Although it says it's for rifles only, it also runs in my Beretta 21 with an AWC Titan Three can and my integrally suppressed Ruger MkII.

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I run CCI SV in my suppressed 10/22 and my .22 bolt kit in the AR.  My 10/22 is quite as hell with my old Tac65 can on the 10/22.  I will say on a friends 22/45 it wasn"t very quite at all.  But I think that had more to do with my can not being a good pistol can.  The up side is I don't have to worry about using my can on anything other than my 10/22 due to a certain LF using man hands to put it on,  and now no mtter what I try it won't come off lol.  Damn my bad luck now I have to buy another can for a 22/45 when I pick one up  

 

 

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I usually run CCI segmented HP in my 10/22, it´s subsonic and cycles the action. For super quiet shooting I use the Winchester Subsonic HP and keep my thumb on the charginghandle so no noise escapes while ejecting the spent brass. The downside is the need for manually charging each round.... The Aguila SSS is also a good round, but I get more noise from them than the CCI segm HP.

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Originally Posted by Malpaso:

I've got to look into the CZ (being of Czechoslovakian descent). Of course, this is MA, and who knows if they sell them here.

 

My CZ455PT is stupidly accurate for what it is. I can lay a quarter on top of the hole left by 100 rounds of CCI Mini-Mags @ 50yd. My only complaint - as with every fucking bolt gun I've ever touched except my No4 Mk2 Enfield is the bolt handle.

 

 

PS Ruger 10/22 people - I didn't see a mention of this but uh: https://www.magpul.com/product...93-ruger%C2%AE-10-22

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Originally Posted by LobsterClaw207:

       

Seeing as this is Rimfire Rigs, and there's about 20 places I could ask this...

 

Wsup with subsonic .22 ammo? I've got a bunch of CCI subsonic I've been trying to use in my M&P 15-22 and my Ruger 22/45 pistol, both suppressed. Both are quiet enough out shooting, but don't cycle either action.

 

Is there a subsonic out there that will? Or is this the nature of the beast. Non-subsonics, even CCI "standard velocity" is way too loud out of both with my SilencerCo Sparrow attached.


       


SK Standard Plus made in Germany in my M&P 15-22 with Silencer Co Sparrow on is quiet as a church mouse. Box says 325m/s with a 2,59 g? projo. Sounds like an air rifle w/o ear pro.
Originally Posted by fixit69:
Originally Posted by LobsterClaw207:

       

Seeing as this is Rimfire Rigs, and there's about 20 places I could ask this...

 

Wsup with subsonic .22 ammo? I've got a bunch of CCI subsonic I've been trying to use in my M&P 15-22 and my Ruger 22/45 pistol, both suppressed. Both are quiet enough out shooting, but don't cycle either action.

 

Is there a subsonic out there that will? Or is this the nature of the beast. Non-subsonics, even CCI "standard velocity" is way too loud out of both with my SilencerCo Sparrow attached.


       


SK Standard Plus made in Germany in my M&P 15-22 with Silencer Co Sparrow on is quiet as a church mouse. Box says 325m/s with a 2,59 g? projo. Sounds like an air rifle w/o ear pro.

 

 

Does it cycle? The CCI I've been using will eject most of the time, but not chamber another round. 

 

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by LobsterClaw207:

       
Originally Posted by fixit69:
Originally Posted by LobsterClaw207:

       

Seeing as this is Rimfire Rigs, and there's about 20 places I could ask this...

 

Wsup with subsonic .22 ammo? I've got a bunch of CCI subsonic I've been trying to use in my M&P 15-22 and my Ruger 22/45 pistol, both suppressed. Both are quiet enough out shooting, but don't cycle either action.

 

Is there a subsonic out there that will? Or is this the nature of the beast. Non-subsonics, even CCI "standard velocity" is way too loud out of both with my SilencerCo Sparrow attached.


       


SK Standard Plus made in Germany in my M&P 15-22 with Silencer Co Sparrow on is quiet as a church mouse. Box says 325m/s with a 2,59 g? projo. Sounds like an air rifle w/o ear pro.

 

 

Does it cycle? The CCI I've been using will eject most of the time, but not chamber another round. 


       


Damnit. Should have hit reply.
It cycles flawlessly. It has a funky coating on the rounds that is slick that I think helps. You using standard mags and haven't dicked with have you? I have had friends that screw around(we are AMATURE gunsmith wannabes) and they have cycling troubles. Mine is almost completely stock and everthing I have used so far cycled. Need to spend more time with it, this is only 8 brands in a 50 round or so each type rehersal. If memory serves:
Federal regular
Remington thunderbolt
Winchester white box
Old Winchester wildcat
The SK
Eley subs
Winchester AR-22
CCI subs
American Eagle sonic and subs

Well it's 10

Anyways, my sample of one M&P 15-22 with silencer co sparrow and what it ate. The SK is my favorite. Good luck.

I have only tried it with the suppressor, really.

 

I need someone smart to start a thread specifically explaining the whys in the ammunition industry, .22 is STILL impossible to find for the most part. Midway is sold out of every single type of .22 subsonic. Brownells has nothing, Cabela's has nothing. 

 

 

 

 

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It doesn't take someone extra smart to figure out the ammo industry.  As soon as ammo hits the shelves, whoever is there grabs everything they can, as fast as they can.  It sells out as fast as it gets put out.  With the drought going into the 3rd year, more and more shooters have less and less ammo. And I can't tell you the last time I actually saw any on a store shelf.

 

I've been thinking about placing a huge order (distributer sized) and selling to my friends and coworkers just to get what I want. (probably wouldn't work, but whatever).

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Shot a 22/45 once that had a screw on can came back over the barrel to make it look like all one piece.  Very well done.  Looked like a factory bull barrel.  It would cycle the REM SubSonics easily.  No other ammo was on hand.  Can was quiet and became retardedly quite after some Ballistol was shot into it with a straw. Stick in the straw, spray and pull it out at the same time.  Heard the impact and action cycling.  Thumb on the back of it to hold the bolt closed and the impact was all that was heard.

Really need to break down a get a can for my CZ452 Varmint. My goto hunting load is the SK SubSonic HP.  Match load is the Wolf Match.  Shot a 5 shot group that measured .8 @ 100yds with it.  Bought it for $350 brand new but I would not hesitate put it up against any factory gun to include Annie's and the 40X.

If you want a SERIOUS hunting load in 22LR get some Armscor HV HP.  Holy. Fuck. For a non-tipped projectile it gives 17HMR type damage.
Originally Posted by LobsterClaw207:

I have only tried it with the suppressor, really.

 

I need someone smart to start a thread specifically explaining the whys in the ammunition industry, .22 is STILL impossible to find for the most part. Midway is sold out of every single type of .22 subsonic. Brownells has nothing, Cabela's has nothing. 

 

Um, er, uh... Either I'm seriously missing something, or match ammo should be subsonic.

 

http://www.midwayusa.com/produ...grain-lead-flat-nose

 

Pack of 500 for $133.99.

 

IIRC the Edge shot better than Tenex out of my 20" CZ455PT. They were, for sure, subsonic out of my gun.

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So - I bought the above Savage with the intent of putting my first .22 can on it.  I bought the rifle, put a bipod and a scope that I have lying under my dresser (a take-off from something - it's a crap scope), and threw it in the safe awaiting the stamp to come back.  I finally got to take the Gemtech home, and take it to the range and shoot it.  I bought a small amount of Winchester .22 LR subsonic lead hollow points.  

 

This rifle loves this stuff.  My first three shots at 50 (once zeroed) were within 3/4 of an inch.  My next 3 were all touching.  I then went to work shooting every piece of steel we had on the range, giggling like a mad-man while doing so.  No ear-pro, and the loudest things on my end of the rifle were the striker falling and the smack on paper or steel.  

 

But all is not roses.  I fucking despise the stock.  This rifle came with no iron sights and with a scope base - but the stock drops very steeply.  It is too short, and I can barely get a chin weld with it.  

 

I read about the Boyd's stocks, but they say they require a different trigger guard that I can't open up the link to on my phone.  For those that have made the switch to the Boyd's stock, how easy is this to do?  Does it retain the accuracy moving from plastic to wood?  Does it need any kind of bedding?  Fitting?

 

I totally dig the way this rifle shoots, and am trying to decide if iso-mat and duct tape are the way to go or replace the stock.  Is there another option I'm missing that's reasonable for a $200 rifle, a $200 can, and a scope that I found while vacuuming?

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I have the boyds tacticool on my FVSR, and there are a few things to note. The bottom metal can be bought from DIP when they are in stock. diprodcuctsinc is where I got mine. I would grab some longer action screws while you are at it to replace one so that the threads will get more grab into the action. It is a drop in stock, meaning that it is made a little big to fit everything, so on other guides they recommend using nylon spacers to take up the space between stock and the action. Once you get the proper length, it allows you to torque to spec. I have heard you only have to do that if you lost accuracy after the stock configuration. 

This is all from the boyds tacticool version. I think it is the varmint pro? stock now. savage fvsr

 

Extrabonez - that it what this rifle should look like!!  I think I'll pony up the $92 for it.  It'll be tight . . . but I think I can swing it.  

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I use a Triad Tactical stock pack, along with it. The palm swell of the stock just fits perfectly for me and is very comfortable to shoot. The pack holds a 50count box of .22, 2x5 and 1x10 round mags, and a lens pen. I had tossed some 300wm cartridges on the loops just for S&G at the range, but took them out due to them corroding from touching my arm while sweaty. I never got to check the accuracy with the factory stock, but with the boyds even without the spacers I had no problem making a ragged hole at 50yards with CCI SV, and easily Minute of Golf Ball at 100. I use the Mueller APV, and while it works well enough, I am still hunting for a scope that makes me as happy as that Leupold on the BV version next to it in the picture. 

Anyone here have an idea when/where the Magpul 10/22 will be coming out?

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Originally Posted by Halfneck:

Anyone here have an idea when/where the Magpul 10/22 will be coming out?

 

I don't think that Magpul has been more specific than 'Summer'

 

The magpul employee I spoke to at the NRA convention said July or August was a reasonable expectation.

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Originally Posted by cashonlycow:

arbox1005...can you please share the details on that rig please?

 

Don't know why, but it just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Cheers ! , It just a Norinco Jw15-C .... .22LR.

wearing an Elcan C79 , Surefire G2 and a foregrip of some sort, cant remember who makes it. Triad stock pack on there too... i added the grip to the stock and gave it a spray in an OD and Tan grass pattern then black netting over the top.

rifle cost $300 here in Aus so just a bit of fun!

i actually enjoy using it a lot more than my 452 Varmint:

I'm looking to replace the barrel on my 10/22 in something 16" and threaded and into the Magpul stock. Any recommendations on barrels? I don't want super expensive ( over $200) and something that will shoot Federal bulk pack ammo well. It's nice to see .22 ammo is back available and at reasonable prices again. 

"Never underestimate the predictibility of stupidity" RIP SSG Brad King. KIA April 2, 2007.

Well, I finally bought the rifle I should have bought years ago. I just bought a Remington 504T HB LS. I've wanted one of these for a long time and even though I've seen them for sale in the past, I never pulled the trigger on it. I did flirt with the 504 in the past. I bought a couple of 504 sporter models and played around with them. R. Moran has one that I sold him that turned out to be a great gun (after a barrel swap and a lot of time and money). Now I'm back to the original 504T that sparked my interest. 

For those that don't know; the 504T came with a Shilen heavy barrel with an Eley Match chamber and a laminated varmint style stock. I tweaked the trigger and now it breaks clean at 1 lbs. I also topped it with a Vortex 5-15x scope I had laying around and threw on a harris bipod. Now all i have to do is shoot it. Hopefully it shoots as good as it looks. 

 

 

 

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Forgot to add this one… This is my winter indoor range gun/fun gun/bullseye gun. 

Nelson Customs 1911 .22LR conversion upper on a Caspian frame built by Dave Salyer. This is probably my favorite pistol to shoot, and for good reason. It shoots like a laser with SK Standard Plus or CCI Standard Velocity. I had Salyer do a roll trigger on this and it is wonderful. The Aimpoint H1 seems to allow me to shoot a little better, but I also have an iron sight rib for when I want to shoot with irons. About the only other thing I could ask for would be a beaver tail grip safety, but the GI safety really doesnt bother me on this soft recoiling pistol. 

 

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arbox1005 posted:
Originally Posted by cashonlycow:

arbox1005...can you please share the details on that rig please?

 

Don't know why, but it just makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.

Cheers ! , It just a Norinco Jw15-C .... .22LR.

wearing an Elcan C79 , Surefire G2 and a foregrip of some sort, cant remember who makes it. Triad stock pack on there too... i added the grip to the stock and gave it a spray in an OD and Tan grass pattern then black netting over the top.

rifle cost $300 here in Aus so just a bit of fun!

 

 

You spot light cane toads, don't you?

So, gonna bring this back, rather then clutter up the custom thread. And it's nice to look back and see guns that have come and gone, plans that didn't work out or follow threw on, etc.

I mentioned in the custom thread about a new rimfire...

This is a long story, as is most of these. A few years back I ended up with two beat up Remington 581 rifles, by hedging and bidding on both on GBer, then winning both/ At least they ended up being the same vendor, who combined shipping, and I got both to the door for about $225?

I took both to Carolina Precision Rifles, they bore scoped and looked over both. Decided which one they thought would shoot the best.  

 I had them take they other and just get it working, which wasn't much I guess. It has a single shot adapter, and actually shot OK..I eventually sold it for about what I had into it.

The then owner, had worked for Jarrett rifles and commented that they had built one of these before, they are basically mini Rem 788 actions. They have extremely fast lock times, which made both the centerfire and rimfire actions very popular for awhile, among bench and other target shooters.

We discussed what was gonna be done, which was revised a time or two. The initial work was to cut and thread the pencil thin barrel at about 18", free float it, add a second action screw, pillar and glass bed the sporter stock, modify a Timney 788 trigger to fit, drill and tap for Warne steel bases, and 3 swivel studs and paint the stock..leaving the metal in its rough state. There were a few bumps along the way...

The initial plan was for it to be a sort of tactical trainer and suppressor host. There were large POI shift that were also inconsistent when installing and removing the suppressor...I think the barrel was/is to thin to support it. It also shot extremely far right..

Eventually, other guns took it's place and it was regulated to the back of the safe.

Then, a friend..Ghost of war, here...had one of his Annies rebarreled with a Lilja, so he had a basically new Anschutz barrel sitting at the smith. I contacted him, Evelio McDonald about rebarrelling the Remington using the Annie barrel...he said he had done it before and they were called Reshutz rifles...he quoted a very fair price I though. He "glues" them in. I also asked about the other issues and some other work. And this is the result...

Remshutz 2Remshutz 3Remshutz4Remshutz 1

 Work includes:

  turned the barrel chamber end down and cut it back to fit the action, it finished at about 21" 

 opened barrel channel for heavier barrel

 stripped, cleaned and polished the bolt

Blasted all the scuff, scratches and electric pencil markings off the receiver, and left it in the white.

He determined the rifle shit so far right due to the scope base holes being drilled off center, and suggested I just use the grooves with BKL rings

Removed the plastic buttplate and installed a thin butt pad. Looks like an in-house made pad..beats my idea of cutting a piece of mouse pad.

 I decided to forgo threading it, as Annie barrels are choked at the muzzle, and I have a Ruger American I'll use as a suppressor host.

Earlier in the year I had picked up a used Simmons 15X Silhouette scope for $50..made in Korea & discontinued. For now it is sitting in some B-square rings Dan had lent me. The BKL's are on order.

 I am tickled with this rifle. The buttpad is just what I wanted..thin, I only needed it to prevent slipping. The action is much smoother..though it'll never be an Annie...there are 6 locking lugs to fight. The plan was to hit it with some Brownells black AlumaHyde we have..but the in the white look is kinda growing on me...I might wait till it warms up.

The group was shot while leaning over the "bench" on the 50yd pistol range, in a sort of foxhole supported position. Range was 50ish yds and ammo was Remington/Eley club...hardly match ammo. When my range is finished refurbing the rifle range and pushing it out to 200yds, I'll put it on the bench with some SK rifle match or Eley black box stuff. I'm pretty sure I won't be disappointed.

 When I lived in NM I bought the fancier version of this rifle with a heavy barrel, I did not like the stock, and my choices to upgrade were limited to one or two McMillan stocks and a USGI target stock...I decided to sell it....what did I know? When I bought this, the choices were the same. Now, Boyds inlets for them...gee..thanks...I'd be tempted to upgrade, but..

Even Evelio suggested I not spend any more money on the rifle. he gave me a deal, because he knew how much I had into it. Parts and smithing knowledge for them are drying up. Only in the last few months has there been an aftermarket mag available. I had gone so far down the rabbit hole, I was past the point of no return, and Evelio pushed it the final mile. 

Would I do it again? Recommend doing it? Probably not...if you happen to have the gun or action and want a unique gun, or not want it to go to waste...yeah maybe..but I wouldn't go looking for an action to build. I wanted an action with real locking lugs, and cost me.

A CZ or Annie are much better deals, parts, mags, stocks, smiths, etc..

The Ruger American, while not a CZ or Annie...is not a bad gun, and it takes 10/22 mags, which are everywhere, and cheap. Which is why it'll be my suppressor host.

But...right now, I am tickled with this gun...

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Forgot about this thread.  My savage ended up with a Boyd's stock pretty quickly after my last post.  It is a squirrel murdering machine.  The stock made all the difference in the world.  It ended up wearing an older stock pack. I pretty much have stopped using my Ruger 10-22 anymore.  This is more fun.

I also put on a better scope.  Not a good scope - a better one.  Better base and rings too.  This was before most of the upgrades, but you get the idea.  

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