I have replaced the 870 with the Troy PAR (National) using MAGPUL 10 round magazines. This gets me 5.56 (albeit a pump) that is 50 state legal. The ability to fold the stock helps a lot with transport. Granted it is still a pump, it is a pump that in other circumstances can feed off of standard AR magazines.
KLR, I've been thinking about getting a Troy PAR for staying compliant within CA though. How many rounds have you put through it so far? And what were your overall impressions of it, build, quality, etc? From just viewing video clips here and there it was hard to tell how solid those action bars were, even if just handling 5.56 and not 12GA. Overall it seems like it would fit that role nicely. I saw a mention or two here and there on LF, but don't recall ever having seeing someone on here do a write-up or even a quick overview.
I like it. I was able to get it sighted in and that was about it. Hoping to get it out to the range on Thursday. Based upon my disassembly -solidly built. I have no concerns about breaking by cycling the rifle or anything like that. Certainly not concerned about 5.56. Bit more recoil than a standard AR (as expected). I put a SPARC II on top and an INFORCE WML on the forend and it is good to go. Really, really like the folding stock. Would I take it over any of my standard ARs? Nope, but it fills one niche very well. This guy does a full disassembly of the .308 version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKKhu8s-gxg
Yeah I was thinking the same in terms of not comparing to an AR. Initially I was thinking of getting the Ruger Gunsite Scout or Mossberg MVP in 5.56 for a light non-semi auto CA travel gun. Not that it's easily available, but I turned away from even thinking about the Remington 7615 after reading several people from here and their experiences. The PAR seems like a good choice, able to take common mags, rail already mounted and stock folds for transport. Despite people's opinions on the company's politics, their products are generally proven commodity.
Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
I had the full intention of posting almost this exact question concerning an AR pistol, later considering the Tavor. However, I was giving serious consideration to doing a CZ Scorpion with a folding SB brace. Any thoughts/input?
I carry 9mm for duty use, so I have access to 9mm regularly. the Scorpion is priced right, folding stock available, and I already have a 9mm suppressor with same thread pattern, which are all big pluses. I figured the 5.56 in very short barrels aren't gaining much over HP 9mm ammo out of a Scorpion barrel at short/intermediate distances.
The biggest reason I would go AR pistol is my current investment in the AR platform already, mags/ammo/accessories, plus having a duty AR and 5.56 mags at hand already. I just thought that 147gr Speer G2 or 147gr Federal HST with folding stock and suppressor at hand might give some advantages.
I want the added punch. Thus in my case a 12 ga, with an AR pistol when $$$ comes available.
For a travel long gun, my California compliant choice so far is a 18” barrel lever w/scout rail and ghost ring sights, in 45-70. I’ve tried reddot but pulled it and am saving for an EER Scout scope to try. The wife’s concept was if you want a rifle for travel, you should be able to buy ammo at KMart, and it should be powerful enough to stop any problem and the truck they are driving.
I keep an 18" FAL Para tucked behind the front seat. It's a little long...but when the zombies attack I'll be ready.
PTR - PDW to keep it 308 pistol ...
Occasionally, I carry an AR in addition to whatever pistol I happen to be carrying. I have an old Stag lower that I pinned a PSA Premium 14.7" CHF upper to. It isn't the equivalent of a Colt or a BCM by any means, but it is a decent rifle that has never given any problems. If it were to be taken by an LEO for some reason, or in an outright break-in of the vehicle, I would be pissed, but not nearly as much as losing my BCM or Colt! I usually LEAVE six or seven 30 round mags in the car, as well as likely-needed spare parts for an AR. This stuff stays in the car, and if I feel the need, I just throw the rifle in.