Winter gloves?

(I did a search, but most of the threads on this subject are a couple years old; hoping that technology has evolved)

I'm looking for some winter gloves. Requirements are:

1) Thin enough to shoot with.

2) Reasonably grippy palms (I take an outdoor eskrima class, and it's bad manners for your stick to go flying out of your hand)

3) Warm down into a windy 30 degrees or so.

I got a pair of Mechanix FastFit insulated gloves. They handle 1) and 2) OK, but they're just not very warm.  What else is out there?

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Caveat: I destroy gloves, sometimes in matters of hours through nothing other than regular wear.  Other than these two sets of gloves the best period of wear I ever got out of a set were the Oakley knuckle gloves.  They made it a week.  

I hate endorsing anything from Blackhawk, but I have a set of these that worked pretty darn well in Afghanistan and Montana.  The fact that I have managed to not destroy them for seven years means they are made out of some sort of unobtainium.  Quality control may have varied since 2010 though.  

http://www.blackhawk.com/Produ...Shooting-Gloves.aspx

I also have a set of these that have lasted almost as long.  They kept my hands comfortable and the wind off them.  Magazine manipulations and fine motor was a little more difficult because they didn't fit as tight to the hand as the dirtypigeons.      

https://marmot.com/products/details/spring-glove

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If you have to ask your buddy if you are on fire, you are four to five seconds behind the "stop, drop and roll" power curve.

I was going to recommend Mechanix Originals, which is what I use for multiple outdoor activities (shooting, carpentry, yard work), well below 30*F. If the Insulated model isn't cutting it, the Originals definitely won't.

BTW, escrima

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I have become a big fan of Outdoor Research (OR). I have a pair of the PL 400 and PL 100, both of which are good to go for dexterity and shooting. They offer an awesome pro deal if you qualify for it. I had the PL400 out last night in -18 degree and they did well. 

There is a review of the OR that rather vigorously critiques the cold weather claims. I need something better than what I have, and was hoping to get something that would not suck if needed to use a pistol while out walking the dog or something. It's been in the single digit range here for a few days, and the current gloves were sucky for that, PLUS way too bulky to have a real chance to shoot.

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I have become a big fan of Outdoor Research (OR). I have a pair of the PL 400 and PL 100, both of which are good to go for dexterity and shooting. They offer an awesome pro deal if you qualify for it. I had the PL400 out last night in -18 degree and they did well. 

I second this recommendation, I used the shit out of the aforementioned gloves during rangeweek at TBS (high temp on most days was less than 20 degrees).

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I have about six different pairs of gloves in my work bags, including mechanics, OR Piledrivers, USGI Nomex gloves and Hatch padded Operators. For cold weather at work I have Outdoor Research  Backstop and Sensor PL100 or PL150 (can't remember which). I prefer the Backstop because of the Windstopper material. I would prefer more of the grippy rubber material on the fingers and palm but it looks like OR addressed that with their updated Backstop Sensor. Both are thin and warm enough for my purposes. I'm not going to use them as ski gloves or have a snowball fight with them but I have worn them in low teens and been comfortable. i don't know what their temperature ratings are. I don't really pay attention to that. Fit, bulk and comfort are more important. Temperature rating is subjective. I have frozen my ass off in sleeping bags rated for much lower temps than I was dealing with. The guy next to me with the same bag was comfortable. 

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One of the best set of gloves I have used in patrol is black Footjoy insulated golf gloves.....insulated with a sticky material palm.  A couple other guys bought them on my squad they liked them so much.  I lost mine a few years ago and tried others, but never found anything else that I liked.  I will look at the OR gloves now.

 

I shoot a lot in Alaska for what its worth, including the winter. I live and die OR.

 

PL400 are great, warm, windproof all around gloves. I wear them while running down to about 0. They aren't "tactical" gloves, but if you just want something warm on your hands what would work great while shooting, these are the ticket. PL400 is way warmer than PL100s.

From 20 - 40 degrees I like the Coldshot gloves for shooting. These aren't necessarily wear around gloves. They are basically a slightly warmer tactical glove.

From 10 - 30 degrees I really like the Super Coulior Glove Liners. Warm, a lot of dexterity, good in the wind. Great colder weather glove without needing to go full mitten or two layer. Not waterproof though, although that doesn't really matter at the colder temperatures.

Swix makes a line of cross country skiing gloves that work pretty well for shooting.  Take a look.  I've used them for a few years.  I use them for winter running too since I have a gun with me .

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The PL400 looks warm, but refers to needing a shell over it. Those who own, do you use them alone or with something else over them? What about 99% humidity, or mist, or rain? That kills a lot of gloves that otherwise work for me.  

I got frostnipped on some mountains in my stupid youth and my hands get really cold really easily. I love some lighweight OR Sensors I have, and since I have weird thumbs I'll stick with them as I know their pattern fits.  

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Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

I wear my ORs mostly without a shell, but as glove liners when I ski. I have no complaints either way. I can't help you with wet conditions, no experience with that yet. 

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"The military was strange like that. In the middle of the night you run into a major problem that requires you to put your faith in someone you never met before and probably would never see again. But that person knocks himself out to do his job and helps you get on with yours." - Harold W. Coyle, Team Yankee

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