When you said that you don't use White's I assumed you use Nick's, but I'll hold all questions until I see what your thoughts are. Hell, I'm curious about the whole setup. You guys do stuff that's very close to the military concept of load-bearing, working in tough conditions and austere locations, etc. I think an overall post providing information similar to the winter gear thread would be interesting. It's just another way to look at a similar subject for synergies.