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For moderate intensity LE use, are USGI mags good to go?

BravoWillie ·
Intended use: entries/serving felony warrants with US Marshalls. This will occur once to twice a month for 2 days. Will entail loading into vehicle, driving to location, unloading, serving warrant and doing entry if required, then repeating. This is new work to me. Had previously been patrolman. Now retired from LE (except for the above) and run a small family owned company. I have a stash of around a hundred D+H 30-round mags and I'm wondering if they're sufficient or if I should get some...
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  The Carbine 1 course will teach marksmanship fundamentals, combat stress management, rifle zero, rifle manipulation, movement, use of cover, fighting from unusual positions, ground gun fighting, an introduction to team tactics, gear selection...
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Re: For moderate intensity LE use, are USGI mags good to go?

BooneGA ·
I probably own 75-100 PMAGs and lancers. But when I deploy its all USGI. Over the past 8 years they are the only ones that havent given me issues at some point. Also they are by far the most popular magazine here, amongst guys who could have cases of any magazine typed shipped immediately their way with a single email - the USGI is almost universal. Rick
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cd228 ·
Do you apply hammer therapy to the Armorer at that point?
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cd228 ·
I've only done two tours down range, some of the other posters are a lot more experienced though. USGI all the way with Magpul followers installed. I never had an issue with mine, nor did I hear of anyone having an issue with theirs normal USGIs. I used my mags at the range for qual, shoothouses, etc during the train up. As said above inspect your mags pay attention to the feed lips and spine, mark them and take them to the range and proof them. If a mag fails, pull it.
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kaltesherz ·
Not all USGI mags are the same- I've had NIW Centerfire Industries mags that wouldn't even insert into my M4. After seeing a trend with those and a few other random contracts, I only use Okay mags (which are the same as Colt & NHMTG). Their QC is great, they even insert every single mag into a mil spec lower at the factory to make sure they're GTG before shipping them (you sometimes hear people bitching about how their "new" mag is obviously "used"). I personally prefer to replace the...
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Re: For moderate intensity LE use, are USGI mags good to go?

BravoWillie ·
Again, everyone, thank you very much for the responses. They are greatly appreciated. I will take the suggestions to heart. Be safe.
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Re: For moderate intensity LE use, are USGI mags good to go?

Pat _Rogers ·
I have has brand new mags with brand new guns straight from Colt (Colt does NOT make mags) have the floor plate tabs break after loading 15 rds. I have had a shitload of Brownells mags (a gov mag supplier) go tits up when they first started. I haven't seen any since then. All magazines have to be considered a problem until you have put some rounds through them I have seen shitloads of GI mags fail, usually because of improper loading (feed lips) and just being worn out Nothing is perfect.
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R.Moran ·
By definition, all mil spec USGI mags are "the same". Pat has reported that there is no difference among the varied real USGI manufactures. Colt does not make mags. Having said that any mag, regardless of spec, manufacture reputation, etc. should be tested in the intended rifle prior to any real world use....regardless of intensity... I have 5 or so mags that I keep in the carbine case, these are my at home range training mags. I then have a plastic ammo can with about 25 +/- "class mags".
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Re: For moderate intensity LE use, are USGI mags good to go?

Dan Morton ·
You will be fine with GI mags. PS- there is only one L in Marshal.
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TNYankee ·
USGI mags are perfectly fine. In fact, I prefer them. You should ensure that, at a minimum, you have the light green improved GI followers. Also, are we talking new/good condition mags with known history, or "surplus" beat to hell leftovers that no one knows the background on. The latter should be used as range mags and crushed if they hiccup. And yes, I have used / relied on them when it counted.
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Astronomy ·
Assuming you conducted live fire function check with any you carry (basic for all brands of magazines ...for any weapon), you'll be fine. I rarely used anything but USGI across nearly 35 years of combat arms career. Much of that before anti-tilt followers were even a glint in anyone's eye. Exceptions were mostly HK steel AR mags, back when they were the heat. They didn't impress me (or anyone else in my units). Ditched 'em and went back to USGI. I also used Magpuls towards the very end of a...
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Re: For moderate intensity LE use, are USGI mags good to go?

Pat _Rogers ·
The D&H mags may or may not have the anti tilt followers, which though better than the old green followers (entered service in 1990) are still viable in new magazines. The mil aluminum magazines are very much GTG but do not fall in love with your magazines. The mil- for a long time- actually believed they last forever. I Use PMAG's and ARC Mags mostly in class, but also rotate GI mags through the guns. Pay attention to them, discard when they give you issues. Be careful how you store...
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KUTF ·
Any bad-rap USGI magazines received is due to the fact that they were treated as family heirlooms and kept well past their service life by cheap commanders and supply Sgts. You know the Vietnam vintage looking 20-rounders and 30rd mags with all the finish worn off that were still knocking around in supply rooms in the 1990s. As others have mentioned, any magazine that is identified as a source of recurring issues should be stomped-on and disposed of.
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Dan Morton ·
The last time I stomped on a bad mag during quals the RO let out a sound that reminded me of Belushi in Animal House when the movers were cleaning out the Delta House and dropped the case of booze.
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arcticlightfighter ·
My favorite AR15 mags are my GI 30 rdr's with MAGPUL follower and Ranger floor plate.
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Post Car ·
The majority of our guys slinging patrol rifles are doing so with DRMO 30 and 20 round magazines respectively. Because I have a stash of P-mags/Lancer Mags/etc I choose to run those with my patrol rifle, however I've never seen any of our guns (around 200 or so ) have any magazine related issues. Most of our folks that carry these are not gun folks, and they spend most of their time rattling around the trunks of patrol cars and yet they keep on working.
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BravoWillie ·
Awesome guys. thanks. the d+h I mentioned are from BCM; I've been buying their 10 for $90 once a month for the last few months. I have randomly taken about 10 out of the 100 and run 50 rounds through each so I figure the rest should be GTG too. Thanks for the input
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quackhead ·
Don't assume anything that your life depends on. Function test any and all mags you plan to use for duty. It may be your life or someone you're working with that depends on the mag working properly. You don't want to find out in the middle of a gunfight that your mag is binding up and won't feed because of some QC fluke that wasn't caught at the factory.
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throwback ·
"Don't assume anything that your life depends on. Function test any and all mags you plan to use for duty. It may be your life or someone you're working with that depends on the mag working properly. You don't want to find out in the middle of a gunfight that your mag is binding up and won't feed because of some QC fluke that wasn't caught at the factory. " To emphasize the seriousness of that statement, when I bought my first order of 30 D&H from BCM about 6 years ago, I took them all...
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Pat _Rogers ·
True Story A bunch of years ago I did a class at a CO PD. The Cops all showed up with magazines that were marked a certain way- I *think* BAD or something similar. None of them worked. When I asked about the mags I was told that their "Instructor/ armorer" took away their duty mags and deliberately gave them shitty mags in order for them to have more malfunctions "and enhance their training". A quick call to the #2 in the department had the pissed off instructor/ armorer bring out 200 brand...
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Re: For moderate intensity LE use, are USGI mags good to go?

R.Moran ·
If I stomped a bad mag at my last employ, I probably would've been given a statement of charges & a written reprimand. Only range mags were used at the range for fear of duty ammo being shot up in training...in 8 years, I never once shot my duty rifle ammo thru my rifle. All mags were counted, and you couldn't leave training until they were accounted for. They had bought some new mags for duty...black glossy finish, junk...bought from God only knows where as "like item replacement" for...
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lcpl1066 ·
Don't know if it has been mentioned yet, but be sure to label your mags. I use stencils, but anything will work. If you have multiple failures you will know if it is with the same mag. This also helps with deconfliction at they end of the day when people are trying to get their personal mags back from each others dump pouches and range bags.
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lcpl1066 ·
if you can dodge a wrench you can dodge a ball?
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parapyropig ·
A few years ago I was asked by a captain if I had a tool in the armory to fix his malfunctioning magazine. I told him "yep. Bring it in - I'll fix it." He met me in the armory. "Let's see the mag, Cap." He hands me two ancient empty worn-the-fuck-out Parsons metal 30s. "Two, huh? So, these are giving you problems?" I ask. "Yeah - they keep putting two bullets in at once." Two bullets in at once. Yeah. That's a direct quote. "Hmmm. I got just the thing," I said, reaching into the toolbox.
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HomoSepian ·
Nothing wrong with function-tested USGI mags,
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jnc36rcpd ·
All this said, while I think function-tested USGI magazines are good to go, why not just buy some PMAG's?
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Re: For moderate intensity LE use, are USGI mags good to go?

R.Moran ·
Because he has cases of USGI mags....you guys act like Easter is celebrated in reference to PMAGS
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