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First Spear Tubes Hardware

SoTex ·
I know a set of tubes on their own were unobtanium back when First Spear was the only one doing it. Now that Safariland is also doing tubes on their carriers, is their any way to get a hold of a a set of tubes without buying a whole cummerbund and cutting the tubes off of it? Looking to retrofit a Slickster cummerbund with tubes.
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Mark7 ·
I don't know about unobtanium, but I got them from First Spear around this time last year, my wallet cried, but I rubbed some dirt on it. They took a while to ship- about 3 weeks, but it was well worth the wait. The tubes are listed on their website now, fiftten bucks more than I paid.
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Wannabe ·
First Spear said that individual sales of tubes will be forthcoming. Back in the early days of FS you could add a set of tubes to your order if you asked nicely.
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TXsapper ·
I've been in contact with First Spear about another item and asked about the tubes. I was told to keep an eye out this week...
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LobsterClaw207 ·
Same question.
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TXsapper ·
Where are you finding them on their website? I am interested in doing the same thing...
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Mark7 ·
Right here: http://www.first-spear.com/pro...p;cat=279&page=1
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LobsterClaw207 ·
That is buying a whole cummerbund, which the OP (and I) weren't trying to do.
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Mark7 ·
Fuk, my flaring alzheimer's is now effecting my reading comprehension . . .
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SoTex ·
Yeah, I already went the cummerbund route on my AWS 6094. I am trying to just find the tubes themselves this time to have the local stitch doctor fit them to a Ferro Concepts slickster. I don't really want to pay the price for the cummerbund just to ditch the cummerbund and keep the hardware. I want it but I don't know that I want it "that" bad.
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Default.mp3 ·
What's so special about the Tubes that can't be replicated with Cobra buckles or even Fastex? I personally rigged my Tyr Pico up with Cobra buckles to replace the hook & loop cummerbund attachment system.
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MWL ·
I would say that the Tubes are wider, and therefore more stable than Cobra buckles or Fastex, unless you use a couple of buckles. Even then, a single wide Tube would provide a more rigid solution than a couple of buckles. This would mean that donning and doffing is slower. Especially when compared with just pulling the Tubes tab to release it in an emergency. The Tubes also appear more durable than Fastex, and easier to use than both Cobra and Fastex when wearing gloves. There are plenty of...
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SoTex ·
Considered that, but in thinking about it, it would seem that doing one central buckle would create a roll point on the cummerbund. They also take a substantial length given both male and female parts, for this particular application I don't want a closure that eats up an inch and a half of so of space.
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TXsapper ·
http://soldiersystems.net/2017...roved-manufacturers/ Opening up to individual sales soon
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SoTex ·
Literally just made my day.
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LobsterClaw207 ·
I now have the Scarab Light issued to me: https://www.velsyst.com/scarab-light.html Is it even possible to use Tubes with this thing without buying the whole cummerbund, an adaptor kit or something?
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SoTex ·
@LobsterClaw207 lucky.... thats a badass carrier. Had some guys running them slicked out during an aircraft assault class recently and I was really impressed. I haven't had PC lust in a long time but got some from that one.. I *think* it would work if you had someone who could cut your cummerbund right between the large velcro piece that goes under the front flap, and the rest of the cummerbund itself and then sew the tube in where the cut was made. That is how I plan to insert mine if I can...
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LobsterClaw207 ·
Damn I was thinking something along the lines of half the tube has a Velcro "tail" that I could put under the front flap of the PC and Velcro it down, and then the other side maybe threaded through the cummerbund and fold the Velcro back inside it.. Am I describing this at all coherently? I like it so far and we got the releasable one for ops near water and the attachable backpack. Going to be night and day over the my current Protech entry vest I think.
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High Exposure ·
I got an email or something that said the Tubes would be available soon for purchase by individuals. Damned if I could find it... Ah ha! Instagram: https://instagram.com/p/BUCe4zvl6v_/
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Longeye ·
Lobster, I think a stitch bitch (or Eggroll aka Darrin Talbot) could do what you are describing to the cummerbund. Pretty simple project really.
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SoTex ·
@LobsterClaw207 down with the giant ninja turtle vests!! Long live the plate carrier!!
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liquidcooled ·
They posted they are available for individual purchase on their facebook page today. Hot damn. And they are local to me and take very good care of Us local LE. And ive got a consew now too. This could be bad. Lol https://www.facebook.com/1stSp...sts/1341371272585320
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shoobe01 ·
I see reference to "...the release of individual Tubes for commercial and individual sale..." but do not see the post about that nor can find them on their site. Is it just me?
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SoTex ·
@shoobe01 I cant find them either, just the full replacement cummerbund.
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MrMurphy ·
I use an LWPC for work and I'd be happy with just the cummerbund..
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FirstClassEndeavors ·
It looks like they are $180 and sold with cummerbund.
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TXsapper ·
I made contact with their customer service people and was given prices for the individual pieces. They are very reasonable. You might reach out and see what they say.
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FirstClassEndeavors ·
Thank you, I contacted them and they sell for $6-8 a piece but you have to call to order as they are not listed on the website.
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rkb3119 ·
Option: http://www.shop.blazedefensesy...ion-Kit-BDS-QRCK.htm
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PM07 ·
Has anyone actually ordered individual tube sets successfully? The email I got had the 2017 price list but it was case sales only, not for individual sales. I have a LPAC cummerbund I need to retrofit.
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FirstClassEndeavors ·
Yes I just ordered and received 4 pieces, call or email this guy 855.349.4820 (toll free) M-F 8:30 – 5CT Email: Johnm@first-spear.com www.first-spear.com
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ADK ·
How much did they charge you ?
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TXsapper ·
They were around $6.00-$7.00 per piece.
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ADK ·
That's pretty good. Thanks for the info.
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Diz ·
Any update to this? Has anyone else been able to buy "tube" hardware separate for their project?
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SoTex ·
@Diz Yes. You have to contact them, they will send over some agreements you have to sign prior to purchase and send back. With those agreements comes pricing. After that you can call in an order without trouble. Still not available on their website.
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Diz ·
Cool thanks
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Diz ·
As an update, I have modified a couple of PC's so far and these things are GTG.
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krax ·
Is the best bet still to call them directly?
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SoTex ·
@krax . Yes. Call them. They will send you an end user agreement you'll have to fill out and fax back and then you can place an order. I asked their CS last week if that would change with the new website and they advised negative.
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Diz ·
Yeah call them. It's a bit clunky but then it's really worth it.
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IAShooter ·
Anyone happen to have some pictures of the completed conversion?
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krax ·
Thanks, fellas.
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shoobe01 ·
I have been too lazy to do things like call and order special stuff, but FOXDIE did, and today he finally came by with the ones I haven't paid him for, and we sewed up his ESSTAC Bushboar. Not a lot to say about it, but I thought you may all be interested in seeing what a mod looks like, even done by someone as halfassedly as me. I will generally sew anything you want, but you have to stop by, and watch me do it. If you can't help, I put you to work otherwise, such as loading all my mags as...
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shoobe01 ·
I remember what else I was gonna say: I was hoping they were at the pitch of MOLLE, and could simply remove SRs and attach the repair version of this thing at least halfassedly without sewing, but make no mistake, they are very much not. You must sew on 1.5" webbing at the right pitch. Later on today I also did my Hellcat, and while it fixes everything stupid about the center attachment there, it was a hell of a lot more work than the Bushboar, and I didn't sew it so well so no photos for...
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georgiaditchdoc ·
Here's a non sewing option. https://shop.blazedefensesyste...-tube-attachment-kit Steve
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Diz ·
Hmm, ok, maybe good field expedient, if you have good mail service. Good idea, if required, but added weight. Yeah I have wondered why they went with a 1.5" format, instead of 1". But it's still pretty easy and works well. I use a para cord lanyard, wrapped in duct tape, in lieu of shrink wrap tube.
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shoobe01 ·
I haven't put it on a scale, but I was shocked how much weight I cut off the Hellcat. I am sure it's like 2-3 oz but that feels like a lot; all that velcro, snap, webbing, reinforcing webbing, SR, etc. really adds up. I feel, without quite direct comparing and only having it done for 18 hours, that the tubes are also easier to use as the webbing attachment system is so simple there's less dumb bulk to get in the way, bunch up, etc as on many other vest attachment systems.
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Diz ·
Yeah man weight is a big factor these days. Years ago, we built this shit bomb-proof, to last forever, but we paid the penalty for over-building everything like that. Nowadays you gotta be smarter than that. I shit-can as much molle as possible, and go direct-sewn after I know where I want everything. You don't think it's that big a deal, but it is. 500d is my new friend. I like the cord and tape pull tabs. Negligible weight but more positive grip when needed.
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TXsapper ·
Anyone here modded one of the elastic SKD PIG PC cummerbunds to use the tubes system?
 
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