Outpost Training Group (OTG) conducted a law enforcement Vehicle Tactics class at the Nashville Airport PD range 28AUG-30AUG2017.  This was a tactics and techniques class designed for and restricted to law enforcement.  Officers are accustomed to training in/around structures but vehicles not so much.  The reality is that most patrol, crime suppression, and narc work is in/around vehicles.  The goals of the class were (paraphrased):

  1. Use accurate fire to stop an attack.
  2. Do it from a position of minimal exposure (use the cover available to you).

 

WX:

1: 75, drizzle.

2: 87, sunny and humid.

3: 86, sunny and, you guessed it, humid.

 

TD1 started off with a safety and medical brief.  The first point of instruction was positional shooting.  To accomplish this we used barricades as the piece of cover and ran through kneeling, standard/urban prone, “puppy dog”, and scuba prone.  We used these positions both shooting a 9-hole barricade as well as other items used to simulate the shape of a car or other cover.  We received great instruction on how to get into and out of position and lots of reps doing so. 

After a quick lunch three sacrificial vehicles were brought out on to the range.  We worked shooting around the vehicles (DON’T CROWD COVER) and some team movement drills.

Then we started in on a vehicle ballistics lab.  We saw first hand how different materials responded to rifle and handgun rounds.  We also learned techniques on how to mitigate the ballistic cover of a vehicle.  Students were able to shoot duty ammo into actual vehicles and see how it performed.

TD1 ended with a small competition on the 9-hole barricades which is pretty fun.  After a brief hotwash we broke for the day.

 

TD2 began with safety/medical briefs and then the 300 point aggregate.  Cold.  This was a pretty good accuracy drill and also a bit of a challenge cold.

We immediately went back into more vehicle ballistics.  It is eye opening to see how much a car can soak up in the way of bullets.  Even the best bonded stuff can get deflected or caught.  The cheap stuff that can be bought by Joe Dirt at Walmart (M855) can perform well enough to kill you.

Next we went into emergency evacuation drills.  This was great material and something I plan on incorporating into my everyday routine.  We were able to drill, live fire, fighting from and then exiting the vehicle.  

A quick lunch and break from the heat was welcome.  After lunch we went into traffic stops.  It’s something that’s an essential part of policing and we all know it can be deadly.  With good strategies and using angles to your advantage it’s possible to successfully reset someones decision making process and win the fight.  This was more material I plan on using every single day.

TD2 ended with another 300 point aggregate and de-brief.

 

TD3 was all force on force.  The instructors brought in some role players who were NOT cops as op-for.  This helped keep the scenarios from becoming a measuring contest or a game.  Pain is a good instructor and getting shot at and tagged with UTMs helps get the adrenaline flowing and helps you see how you react under stress.  I’ve done FoF training before but I think it’s safe to say I haven’t done as much of it as I’d like to, nor as frequently.  We were able to run three scenarios and they were eye opening.  NONE of the scenarios are far from what could be expected of anyone policing on the street.  I must honestly say I didn’t perform at the level I would have liked to.

 

The class size was small and everyone was super motivated.  Things ran extremely efficiently because everyone pitched in moving stuff, pasting targets, etc..  The round count was also not extreme because this wasn’t just a shooting class per se.  I don’t remember any gun or equipment issues except for one ALS holster locking up after having the ALS mechanism partially dislodged while working on the ground.  Gear wise I ran a Velocity OUB with Ares liner, 7TS ALS holster, and ESSTAC KYWI pouch.  No issues with any of that and it approximates other belts I wear.  Velocity LPAC did a solid job as usual and a Dead Bird combat jacket came in handy on day one with the light rain and pit zips helped with the heat.  BCMs and Glocks ran as expected.

 

A HUGE thanks to Bill Toy.  He has very graciously allowed me to come train gratis on a couple of occasions and it has been some of the best instruction I have ever received.  This was my first time meeting and training with Troy Hooker and I was super impressed.  Both instructors are the epitome of humble and professional.  Also a big thanks to the Nashville Airport PD for hosting.  I plan on hitting Night Fighter next month and would highly recommend OTG to anyone.

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Thanks for the write up Brother. You and everyone else in the class hit it hard all three days. Thanks to Nashville International Airport Public Safety for hosting the class.  

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The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

 

"It it is simple....the job, and the system hate you, and you only have you and your fellow officers.......and MANY of them are questionable." - Nyeti

 

Bill Toy

Director of Training / Owner

OTG Tactical

www.OTG-Tactical.com

https://www.facebook.com/otgtactical/

 

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"It it is simple....the job, and the system hate you, and you only have you and your fellow officers.......and MANY of them are questionable." - Nyeti

 

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As DTOM stated in his AAR this day was primarily composed of fighting and evac ing from your vehicle and then moved on to Traffic stops since this was a LEO class.  

 

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"It it is simple....the job, and the system hate you, and you only have you and your fellow officers.......and MANY of them are questionable." - Nyeti

 

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Pics from "Finals" day. We use FoF in all of our Tactics classes to drive home lessons from the Live fire portion.  The guys came through excellently. I want to throw out another "Thanks" to our role players.  They never forgot why they were there and stayed on script all day. Good Role Players make or break FoF training and these guys did a fantastic job.  BZ

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The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

 

"It it is simple....the job, and the system hate you, and you only have you and your fellow officers.......and MANY of them are questionable." - Nyeti

 

Bill Toy

Director of Training / Owner

OTG Tactical

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Outpost Armory Training Group LE Vehicle Tactics Course-

DTOM did an excellent AAR posted above. I'll just cover some highlights that stuck out to me.

The primary instructor was Bill Toy who is LF’s own Puma4. His assistant instructor was Troy Hooker. Besides DTOM also in attendance representing LF was Riddlin.

Day 1-

We started in the classroom, but it was only to meet up and get all our paperwork signed. From then on it was all on the range.

A medical brief was held every morning. This was a good refresher as we knew who had the medical training, who’s vehicle we were taking, and the nearest hospital. Luckily, it was not needed.

We learned other positions that can actually help in the real world. These positions were practiced throughout all three days.

Stay Off Cover was the mantra for the class. This was repeated for everyone as we all wanted to hug up to our cover especially on the vehicles. One good point here that Bill brought up was ricochets and how far off the vehicle they would most likely be.

Team movement was a great addition as most academies don't teach this. Getting to shoot it with steel was fun and gave immediate feedback.

Bill brought up several points on vehicles. Laminated glass, tempered glass, thickness of door panels and components all affect the trajectory of your bullets.

We then shot up the vehicles with different rated ammo to see the effects. This is a good eye opener of what bullets really do in the real world.

Day 2-

300 Aggregate was shot cold at the beginning of class. It was also shot last after a hard day on the range. DTOM was high shooter both times. This should be an easy drill, but it showed everyone that they needed to work on their long range pistol skills for the real world.

We spent more time shooting up a Hyundai Santa Fe. This section we concentrated in shooting the A and B pillars. The take away here was that a vehicle can soak up a lot of damage. Most bullets did minor damage to none on the pillars.

Evac drills was an great section. Seems to be easy to get out of a vehicle, but I'm sure everyone has been bumfuzzled several times trying to get out on a hot call and getting tied up in the seatbelt.

Also a great point made was to always wear your seatbelt. Of course, that was till you roll up on the call. This is a no brainer.

One thing that most won't think of was where to place your AR on a hot call. It was brought up to place it against the left side of the door with your left leg and foot pinning it in place. This something to be looked into. 

Bill the went over how to approach a vehicle. The main part here was don't have a shoot out standing flat footed where you are. Move to cover and return fire from cover. The position of your hips perpendicular sets you for your direction of travel.

We then practiced making vehicle approaches.
Day 3-

All day FOF with non LEO role players. We had three scenarios. We were to use everything we learned the past two days. Pain equals education. I learned this the hard way. In the last scenario I returned fire, but locked up on my evac and tactics. Needless to say, I got shot up pretty good.

The scenarios took up the day as it had to be reset for each student. Safety was paramount with a brief and several checks.

Takeaways-

Best Quote-
“If you bring the fight to me, I'm going to end it. Period.” Bill Toy

Most mandatory training the last few years has been active shooter. While that is good to go over, you work out of your cruiser multiple hours a day. This class taught tactics that will enhance your safety in the real world. 

Good gloves and long sleeves shirts are recommended as you are working around vehicles with the glass knocked out. Also the range was reclaimed parking lot grinded up which ate up elbows and knees.

No Mexican 2 Hour lunches here. There wasn't. We were at the range the entire time which enhanced the classes camaraderie. A lot of information was passed with stories told. 

Bill and Troy did an excellent job of getting the presenting course material to the students. I highly suggest this class to see what you are missing out on.

You can't go wrong taking a class from OTG.

 

 

For 3 days in late August (28-30) 7 law enforcement officers from Tennessee and Kentucky gathered in Nashville Tn. to attend Out Post Training Group’s Law Enforcement Vehicle Tactics Class. The class was hosted by the Nashville International Airport Police Dept. and conducted at their range.

The Range:  The PD range is situated on the back side of the airport, off the beaten path making it private and secluded. It is also considered a secure area so access can be made only by approved airport personnel.  As a result once we were on the range we were there for the day. Everyone brought their own lunch which made for a comfortable atmosphere and as usual much good information was exchanged. The only downside to the range was the fact it was covered with gravel. Not pea gravel, or creek rock, but gravel road gravel. My aversion to knee pads cost me dearly. In all fairness Bill did warn us in his pre-class email that knee pads were recommended.

Students: All 7 students were full time sworn Law Enforcement.  Sheriff’s Deputies, Municipal Police and Airport Officers were all represented. Experience covered the gauntlet from regular patrol, criminal interdiction, SWAT, and K9 giving the class a wealth of experience that we could use to relate what was taught in the class to the street. LF’s very own Wild Bill had the honor being the senior officer in the class with literally more time policing (43yrs) than most students had living. Or maybe its 34yrs. Fellow Lightfighter, Don’tTreadOnMe, was also in attendance. This was my second class I have attended with DTOM and although I hadn’t seen him in several years, in true LF’er fashion we picked up right where we left off.

Instructors: LF’er Puma4, aka: Bill Toy, was the lead instructor and is Director Of Training for OTG. Bill has a unique background of military, contracting (machine guns not nail guns contracting) and full time law enforcement experience. Troy Hooker was Bills assistant and proved to be a capable instructor in his own right. With 22yrs of Law Enforcement experience he has spent the last 3 as the full time range master/firearms instructor for the several hundred deputies at his department.

Gear: I utilized my personal patrol rifle, a 16in BCM middy with BCM rail, Smith Vortex hider, Aimpoint H1 in a Larue mount and a Sheriff Of Baghdad “B” Sling.  I use a cobbled G2 with a Malkoff LED and VTac mount for illumination.  I used a mix of Lancers, GI and PMAGs all without issue. For a side piece I brought my trusty Gen 3 Glock 17 W/ a DG switch equipped 300UB, and Dawson F/O sights (that DTOM claimed he could track from the staging area several yards to my rear). I’ve put approx. 28,000 rounds through this gun and had my first issue, a FTF, in this class. Ammo was Freedom Munitions reloads from the great ammo crisis of early ‘16.  I used my standard duty gear throughout the class and did have a slight issue with a very small rock jamming the ALS system in my holster.

DAY 1:  We began day one with a meet up at the airport PD office. Introductions were made by students and instructors.  Bill talked a little about his learning objectives for the class…

"Use accurate fire to put hits on target and neutralize the attacker, while using available cover efficiently and effectively". (Paraphrased)

 From there we convoyed out to the range. OTG operates its mobile training from a large enclosed trailer that contains everything you need for a class. Steel, stands, backers, barricades and targets were all neatly organized for efficient set up.

We began with the medical/safety brief, outlining primary and secondary personnel, as well as the evac plan and route.

After the medical brief we got down to business. We began by going over positional shooting utilizing the VTac style 9 hole barricades first with pistols then with rifles. Each positon was demonstrated with an explanation of how it could be applied to a vehicle. After several dry runs we went live putting rounds on target. Both Bill and Troy held us accountable for each round we fired.

After a short break the barricades came down. Bill & Troy then utilized two barrels and some target posts to form the rough shape of a vehicle.  Several other barrels and wall barricades turned sideways were also set up to use as cover.  Once a student started their run they would move from station to station, choosing what shooting position to use to best maximize the available cover while doing so.  Each run was observed by Bill or Troy and each student was given a one on one critique afterward.

After a quick “working” lunch, the 3 vehicles we would be working around were moved onto the range. We then applied what we had went over that morning to shooting around actual vehicles. Bill and Troy repeatedly stressed not to crowd cover, which was good because many of us repeatedly did initially and throughout the day. After working several scenarios we moved to a short block on team movement. This was basic communications between team mates, nothing complicated or elaborate.

Next began the “ballistic lab” portion of the class. We fired numerous and varied rounds including multiple duty rounds into different sections of the vehicle. This was not the first ballistic lab I had participated in and it served well to reinforce what I had seen in the other.  That is, for the most part a bullet does what a bullet wants to do when it enters a car, with many variables.  We also covered how different vehicle brands are more resistant to bullets than others. Additionally it’s always a little discerning to see repeatedly that usually the cheapest ammo you buy, FMJ, offers some of the best penetration through vehicles.  This translates to the ammo being carried in most bad guy’s guns. Bill and Troy also covered ways that we can ensure better hits when firing into vehicles.

The day ended with a 9-hole barricade shoot off and a quick AAR over what we had covered.

Day 2: We started bright and early with our daily medical/safety brief. We then moved straight to the line and shot the 300 point version of “The Humbler” cold.  It was, well, a humbler.

Bill went back into the ballistics of shooting vehicles.  The A, B, C, and D pillars and their ability, or lack thereof, to absorb rounds were covered in depth.  It was also pointed out that although the A pillar is capable of absorbing rounds it is obviously not very big.

We then moved into exiting vehicles under fire. The fact that you may have to fight someone off of you in order or gain the opportunity to actually egress the vehicle was driven home. Controlling the seatbelt was stressed as well as ensuring your footing. Rounds were fired through the windshield by each student for the experience. Bill also took a moment to discuss how this and similar training gives us a foundation to testify on if we are ever involved in a vehicle shooting and forced to fire a large number of rounds into a vehicle to stop the threat.

After a slightly longer than quick lunch, as a respite from the heat, we went into traffic stops. Bill demonstrated his belief on proper positioning and we discussed driver vs passenger side approaches. He also discussed in detail the importance of having your hips set for rapid movement while conducting your stop.  Additionally, he showed us to use the “touch the trunk lid” moment as a reminder to set your hips in the correct position.  Targets were then placed into the seats and we conducted mock stops. Bill or Troy would then call out a threat and its location (driver/passenger) and we would react accordingly. 

It’s was during this period we slowed down slightly to discuss a trend that was being observed. The almost ingrained habit for officers to want to stand and fight from the pillars during training.  Bill and Troy then demonstrated how the proper use of angles during movement to cover could enhance our chances of survival.

We ended by shooting the 300 Point Aggregate a second time with DTOM soundly trouncing the competition.  Before leaving Bill gave a quick safety brief for the next day as there would be no live ammo on the range due to the force on force exercises.  Bill also explained that he would be providing all the rifles for the force on force evaluations and most of the handguns.  After a quick AAR of the day’s topics we were done.

Day 3 started with rain looming in the forecast that thankfully brought cooler temps than the prior day.  After a very detailed safety brief we conducted 3 searches (self, buddy, instructor) of our pockets and gear for live ammo.  The entrance road semi-circles the range and the day prior we had been instructed to park on the far side for this day and that no live ammo would be brought to the range area. The road would serve as a buffer zone and anyone crossing the road would have to be searched upon coming back.  I felt this was a well thought out plan, much better than I had previously seen when conducting LE simms training.  OTG uses UTM marking rounds and the associated weapons conversions. Rifles are or course ARs and Glock 17s are utilized as the handguns. We then fitted out helmets and gear.

We were also introduced to our opposition for the day. Uniquely OTG brought in non- LE role players. This was different from all other force on force that I had done and proved to be a great learning experience. This removed the competitive/dick measuring nature of most police FOF training.  All 3 however were experienced shooters and it showed.

Vehicles were moved out of view from the staging area and preset for the evals.  Once we began each student ran 3 separate scenarios under Bill or Troys watchful eye. After each scenario we conducted a quick AAR with the instructors and the role players. I can’t begin to explain how much more smoothly things seemed to run with non-LE role players.  Obviously this ate up the day with a lot of down time.  As has often been discussed this did little to slow the learning. Conversations in the staging area were lively and educational.  We ended with a more detailed AAR of the class. Bill asked each of us to list a couple of things we had taken from the class and how we thought he could make the class better.

One of the things that sticks with me most from the class was a comment Bill made during one of the evals and again I’m paraphrasing to a small degree, “Remember the legacy you leave your family. Even if you can’t win the confrontation strive to perform to a level your family and friends will be proud of.”

This was not a “burn it down’ super shoot’em up class.  I estimate my round count was less than 400 rounds each for rifle and pistol.  It was however one of the most educational and well taught classes I have attended and by far the best law enforcement training I have received.  The class flowed smoothly and logically which is a testament to OTG staff as this was the first Vehicle Tactics class they have scheduled. 

Don’t hesitate to train with Bill and his staff, you won’t regret the experience.

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The life of a Warrior is not deciding when, where or who to fight. The life of a Warrior is simply to always avail himself of those little opportunities life presents from time to time to bust a cap in somebody's ass.-----Sneaky SF Dude 21 June 2005 09:49 PM

Reality is the true test of ones mettle

dont_tread_on_me posted:

Great reviews fellas - definitely some great "learning occurred"! Hope to see you next month. 

Great write ups!  See ya'll next month at Counter Ambush and Night Fighter!  Wild Bill, wear long sleeves this time. 

The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it. - Albert Einstein

 

"It it is simple....the job, and the system hate you, and you only have you and your fellow officers.......and MANY of them are questionable." - Nyeti

 

Bill Toy

Director of Training / Owner

OTG Tactical

www.OTG-Tactical.com

https://www.facebook.com/otgtactical/

 

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