Jberry posted:

I would reckon the aimpoint setup would be far more durable, plus you have the option of removing the magnifier for reduced weight on the 1x magnification scale.

Can't say I've run into any issues running quality magnified optics; and with the cost of the magnifier and the Aimpoint (especially a  T2), one is well into quality magnified territory as WYATTT notes.

If I can remove the magnifier (and still take it with me) I have to put that sucker somewhere in case I need it later.  If I swing it to the side, it's still a passenger on my rifle.  That aspect of a magnified is sort of a blessing and a curse.  True, you can run slim when you absolutely don't need it...I hope you guess right if that comes up.  What sucks with magnifiers is that in addition to magnifying your dot with the power, you're stuck with what you get.  On my magnifieds, I run:

1 - 1.1x indoors/room length distance

1.5-2.5x as a general setting 

3-4x if I have to take an usnupported shot but require magnification as 4x power is my determined maximum magnification that I am comfortable with the amplified wobble provided by the magnification without support

6-8x+ (if available) for observation or supported from distance beyond 50y

 

To me, the 3x magnifier makes far more sense.  Set a gun up for short range and have the 3x when you need it.

"Pain, we endure...faulty weaponry, we do not."

And the secondary market for the original and quite expensive original Aimpoint 3x  magnifier market has been officially nuked....         

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I love, love, love my G.33, but paid way more than $320 for that so don't worry: many people are oddly annoyed by this, not just those with expensive first gen Aimpoint magnifier. 

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shoobe01 posted:

I love, love, love my G.33, but paid way more than $320 for that so don't worry: many people are oddly annoyed by this, not just those with expensive first gen Aimpoint magnifier. 

It's $230.  And I got out of mine when I first saw the price mentioned at SHOT.  I had a couple of extras.   The ones I have I won't sell anyway but I could see some people getting chapped.  But that's business.

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Yeah, so low I mistyped it. Anyway, I am not ready to sell so I remain happy. But I prefer electronics where the old ones break so new cheaper ones feel like a deal 

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Sorry for the necro post but I've recently come into an opportunity to get the 3x-c (commercial) magnifier or the original model 3x magnifier for the price of the 3x-c. Both are new and I had the opportunity to handle both. The seem to be damn near identical. My initial thoughts are to take the better bargain (3x) but I want to figure out is there any more updated technology or better glass on the more recently produced item (3x-c) that would make it better to go with that. I know glass is glass, but is there something I may be missing? The optic would be used on my SWAT rifle with my T-1. What do you think?

Necro... My interest in upgrading my 3x to the 6x has been peaked again. Anyone have one of these yet? It will be going behind my work 4moa H-1 and pulling secondary duty behind my 2moa T-1's on my personal rifles for training/ 3 gun. What's the latest skinny?

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Location: Southern Arizona 

Has anyone had any updates with their experience with the Aimpoint 3XMag-1 and/or Aimpoint 6XMag-1? I am looking to replace my EOTech G33 with one or the other, and am wondering if the 6x is simply too much for the role, given its limit FOV and alleged tight eyebox. This would be going on an 11.5" with a CompM5; I have no interest in an LPVO for this gun, I have other guns that are already equipped with quality LPVOs.

Note that the 3XMag-1 (released in 2016) is not the same as the much older 3XMag (released in 2005, discontinued in 2018) which is considered inferior to the EOTech magnifiers, nor is it the consumer grade 3X-C (released in 2016).

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You should get the 6x...(so I can check it out) But seriously, I’ve got a 3x (not sure what version but it looks very good to my eyes)that was purchased used in 14 I keep on my work gun if you want to mess around with one...But seriously get a 6x so I can check it out...

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Location: Southern Arizona 

I've only seen pics of the 6x magnifier but a lot of the times I see folks having to push their RDS further up and partially hanging off the rail onto the hand-guard rail... Depending on how far you have your stock out/shooting position, I can see this being a problem.

Melon_Killer posted:

I've only seen pics of the 6x magnifier but a lot of the times I see folks having to push their RDS further up and partially hanging off the rail onto the hand-guard rail... Depending on how far you have your stock out/shooting position, I can see this being a problem.

A lot of the reasoning for me to entertain the 6x is actually because it's so long, as I run with my stock (Magpul MOE SL) all the way out, on an A5 RE, while squared to the target (XTCBX can attest to how wonky my tapeswitch positioning is compared to how he runs his guns.. although his rifling is way better than mine, so maybe he's on to something). I would pick up the 3x in a heartbeat if I knew that the eye relief was good enough that I don't have to crane my head forward.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

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A coworker of mine recently purchased one. Spent a day at the range with the 6x magnifier. The glass is pretty good (I’m not an uber optics nerd) compared to other magnifiers I’ve used.

As others have stated the eyebox is not very forgiving. If my head wasn’t in the perfect spot behind the magnifier I was experiencing a lot of shadowing.

The field of view is pretty limited as well. We were using the magnifier to identify targets that were 200 to 300 meters away. Searching for the targets with the 6x magnifier felt like I was trying to use a 4-16 power optic  with 16x dialed in. Very difficult to locate targets or even figure out where the rifle was pointed.

We didn’t measure the field of view or do any formal testing, just basic use and observations. I’m an aimpoint guy, and have one of their 3x magnifier and love it. But I was disappointed with the 6x magnifier.

During this same range session I had a Trijicon 1-6 accupoint on my rifle that I had just purchased. My buddy was impressed with the Accupoint and disappointed with the 6x magnifier. So now  he is going to sell the magnifier and buy a Trijicon.

For what the 6x magnifier costs I would rather put that money towards a LVPO or save some money and buy a 3x magnifier.

EDIT to add my buddy was running the 6x behind a Aimpoint Comp M5. Again I’m not an optics nerd but the size of the M5 may have contributed to the small field of view.

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Sad to hear. 

I love this old 4x EO magnifier I got, but the mounts are for shit and they don't make the magnifier anymore. It is very forgiving, and I increasingly tend to think the euro marksmen (and many woodsy hunters worldwide) may have been onto something settling on 4x fixed. I also have an old German issue scope on my HK as well and it's nice. 3x just seems a tad under powered sometimes. 

But unforgiving eyebox is not a carbine optic to me. 

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