I've searched the forum to see if anyone has experience or posted thoughts on this optic. Does anyone have any feedback for this optic. I'm the market for a new RDS optic and seriously considering this. 

 

"The facts, while interesting are irrelevant: It's not what you know that matters, it's what you don't know that tends to get people killed."

 

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I've always been a variable-optic guy.  I've had Aimpoints intermixed in the last 12+ years.  Visually, the Comp M3 and M4 looked the best.  Some years ago, I started to develop astigmatism; this was about the time the Micro started making its debut.  I did OK with the Micro's for a while (even the "improved" T2's) but ultimately sold those off and went exclusively to the S&B Short Dot.  Since then, we've had PRO's which are more or less Comp M3's and they do OK. 

I recently gave the M5 a chance and I'm glad I did...it's by far the best Aimpoint I've seen to date.  I now have 2. 

"Pain, we endure...faulty weaponry, we do not."

I did a class and one of the other students was in the group these were purportedly made for.  He had just gotten it prior to the class and I was able to check it out, to my eyes it looked just like my T-1 (same thing with the T-2’s I’ve looked through so this doesn’t really mean much). On TD2 (RB1 vehicle tactics) the on/brightens knob had broken and was just spinning (optic still worked fine). Sample of 1...

Joined: 13AUG2010        

Location: Southern Arizona 

All my carbines that have red dots have them now (one has a 1-6 so I can give that a shot.) At FOP last year, I had a T2, but that along with the rifle it was on went to my sister earlier this year.  Comp M5 is what I would go with if I were looking for a red dot, and either a LaRue or Geissele mount.

Joined: 30 May 2003                  Location: SE PA

Some interesting thoughts by the guy behind Scalarworks:

Scalarworks posted:

The major advantage of the CompM5 over the T-2 is ruggedness. The CompM5 is the first Aimpoint milled from 7075-T6. Contrary to popular belief, even the CompM4 is made from 6061-T6.

The CompM5 also has a window in front of it's lens to better resist hard water impacts for those of you who might be para-diving with your long gun.

As mentioned by freely and others, the battery compatibility situation is a moot point for anyone residing in North America. However, the CompM5's stated battery life is equal to the T-2's with an Alkaline battery: that battery life can be extended significantly if you switch to a lithium battery (readily available on amazon), without having to carry spares. We swap out the alkaline Duracell battery that ships with the CompM5 for an Energizer Ultimate Lithium on all of the CompM5 optic bundles we sell. This also saves a whopping 3.8g.

I personally think that the vast majority of shooters would be better served with the T-2 because of its lighter weight, and more than adequate ruggedness (understatement of the day).

But if you are that guy or organization for whom nothing can be too tough, or are a para-diving enthusiast, or you want even longer battery life in your micro sized optic, then the CompM5 is king banana at the moment.

...

Optically, the CompM5 is nearly identical to the T-2. I say nearly because the M5 body is ~9% longer than the T-2's, so you will perceive a slightly diminished front aperture diameter in comparison. This has proven to be imperceptible by me on the range, but your mileage may vary. The CompM5 is still nearly 40% shorter than the CompM4, so a big improvement in my view - I was never a fan of the CompM4 for that reason.

I'm a right handed shooter and I find that thanks to its raised battery compartment the CompM5 has a marginally better peripheral field of view than the T-2. Shooting from my support side the field of view is more noticeably improved.

Anecdotally, I'd say the CompM5 may be a better choice for south paws for that reason alone. I'd love to hear from left handed shooters who have a lot of time behind the T-2 and some time behind the CompM5 on their impressions.

...

For what it's worth; We've stopped selling the CompM4s bundles and are discontinuing our CompM4 mounts in favor of the CompM5 for the following reasons:

The major differences between the two are clear aperture size, weight, size, toughness, and battery type.

The CompM4 has a 44.5% (26mm vs 18mm) bigger clear aperture but it's also 44.5% (120mm vs 83mm) longer so the perceived window size at the same distance from your eye is the same.

The CompM5 has a much stronger 7075-T6 body than the CompM4s 6061-T6 and has a protective window in front of it's front lens.

The CompM5 weighs 45% less than the CompM4s (148g vs 268g).

The CompM5 is significantly smaller than the CompM4s (83x40x41mm vs 120x72x60mm).

The CompM5 uses a AAA battery which is less common than the CompM4's ubiquitous AA and holds less charge, but we feel that 5 years + is plenty for a red dot and I can find AAA's at any CVS or Wallgreens.

Source: https://www.m4carbine.net/show...47-Aimpoint-Comp-M5/

I personally like my CompM5 more than my T-2, the battery box being up high definitely makes it feel like I have slightly better FOV. To me, both the T-2 and the CompM5 have dots that look much better than the 2 MOA T-1, particularly under a magnifier.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


Joined: 2008-07-16

Default.mp3 posted:

Some interesting thoughts by the guy behind Scalarworks:

Scalarworks posted:

The major advantage of the CompM5 over the T-2 is ruggedness. The CompM5 is the first Aimpoint milled from 7075-T6. Contrary to popular belief, even the CompM4 is made from 6061-T6.

The CompM5 also has a window in front of it's lens to better resist hard water impacts for those of you who might be para-diving with your long gun.

As mentioned by freely and others, the battery compatibility situation is a moot point for anyone residing in North America. However, the CompM5's stated battery life is equal to the T-2's with an Alkaline battery: that battery life can be extended significantly if you switch to a lithium battery (readily available on amazon), without having to carry spares. We swap out the alkaline Duracell battery that ships with the CompM5 for an Energizer Ultimate Lithium on all of the CompM5 optic bundles we sell. This also saves a whopping 3.8g.

I personally think that the vast majority of shooters would be better served with the T-2 because of its lighter weight, and more than adequate ruggedness (understatement of the day).

But if you are that guy or organization for whom nothing can be too tough, or are a para-diving enthusiast, or you want even longer battery life in your micro sized optic, then the CompM5 is king banana at the moment.

...

Optically, the CompM5 is nearly identical to the T-2. I say nearly because the M5 body is ~9% longer than the T-2's, so you will perceive a slightly diminished front aperture diameter in comparison. This has proven to be imperceptible by me on the range, but your mileage may vary. The CompM5 is still nearly 40% shorter than the CompM4, so a big improvement in my view - I was never a fan of the CompM4 for that reason.

I'm a right handed shooter and I find that thanks to its raised battery compartment the CompM5 has a marginally better peripheral field of view than the T-2. Shooting from my support side the field of view is more noticeably improved.

Anecdotally, I'd say the CompM5 may be a better choice for south paws for that reason alone. I'd love to hear from left handed shooters who have a lot of time behind the T-2 and some time behind the CompM5 on their impressions.

...

For what it's worth; We've stopped selling the CompM4s bundles and are discontinuing our CompM4 mounts in favor of the CompM5 for the following reasons:

The major differences between the two are clear aperture size, weight, size, toughness, and battery type.

The CompM4 has a 44.5% (26mm vs 18mm) bigger clear aperture but it's also 44.5% (120mm vs 83mm) longer so the perceived window size at the same distance from your eye is the same.

The CompM5 has a much stronger 7075-T6 body than the CompM4s 6061-T6 and has a protective window in front of it's front lens.

The CompM5 weighs 45% less than the CompM4s (148g vs 268g).

The CompM5 is significantly smaller than the CompM4s (83x40x41mm vs 120x72x60mm).

The CompM5 uses a AAA battery which is less common than the CompM4's ubiquitous AA and holds less charge, but we feel that 5 years + is plenty for a red dot and I can find AAA's at any CVS or Wallgreens.

Source: https://www.m4carbine.net/show...47-Aimpoint-Comp-M5/

I personally like my CompM5 more than my T-2, the battery box being up high definitely makes it feel like I have slightly better FOV. To me, both the T-2 and the CompM5 have dots that look much better than the 2 MOA T-1, particularly under a magnifier.

Have you used the scalar works mount with the M5?

 

"The facts, while interesting are irrelevant: It's not what you know that matters, it's what you don't know that tends to get people killed."

 

"Nobelesse Oblige"

BigOaf posted:

Have you used the scalar works mount with the M5?

 No, I personally use a GDI MT6-OSM. I've heard some folks say that the older generation of Scalarworks tends to move under recoil. If I were starting from scratch, I'd probably go with a Spuhr these days, but I think the Scalarworks, from what others have said, is still a great lightweight choice.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


Joined: 2008-07-16

When you consider the CompM5, think of it as a miniaturized CompM4 from the durability standpoint with the footprint of a Micro.  The optics packages on the -2 Micros and the CompM5 are also optimized for use with a magnifier and to address dot distortion that those with astigmatic eyes may experience.  It's an astounding quality and performing RDS.  Let me know if I can help any of you with any other Aimpoint questions.

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