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So what is the new hotness in Aimpoint T1/T2 "Micro" mounts for carbines? 

I've always just kinda done the Larue thing, and been done with it. They work just fine, but I haven't bought one in six years. I'm wondering if there are new or different options out there. 

What's the scoop? Should I not be looking for something different? I've seen a few INTERNET sources talking about things like engagement surfaces and whatnot... beyond my expertise to know if it matters or what. 

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I just picked up some SLR Rifleworks mounts for a T2 and a MRO.  I really like them, super light, simple, and "pinches" the rail versus wedging against it.  I also have several Larues (2 micros, M3, M4, TA33) and a KAC micro, and they are fine, but I see less and less real need for QD mounts on all but my most serious "work" guns.  And even on those, I would probably go with bolt-on if doing it over. 

The SLR was about $65, so that is nice, too.  Another nice unit is the Scalarworks stuff, but it is in Larue's price range.  Geissele has a micro mount coming soon...it is what you would expect.

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I have the bobro micro mount for my T2.  Got it when it first came out and Andrew and his crew gives a discount for LE.  Everything about it just screams quality.  It just simply works.   Disclaimer: I have not done any wild ass internet "testing" so don't ask how it performs after being dropped off a building or frozen in a cooler for a week.  I took it off and put it back on a bunch of times after the initial zero and it held.

Thank you for posting this topic... maybe my bitching can be silenced.

What I want is a simple lower third mount without QD. For example: a LaRue Tall with no QD, or a 1 piece Daniel Defense  that doesn't need a bolt-on riser to become lower third. I don't want or need any skeletonized hotness, and I want minimal moving parts.

Personally, I don't feel like I have any need for QD. It's less about saving money than it is KISS. .. i.e. I'm not trying to be a cheapskate. 

If I'm being stupid and should just stick with what has been working flawlessly for me (LaRue Tall), I have no issue doing so. It just seems odd that I can't find a simple, tall, box-style mount.

 That SLR model is the closest to what I want that I can find.

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BlackBear207 posted:

Thank you for posting this topic... maybe my bitching can be silenced.

What I want is a simple lower third mount without QD. For example: a LaRue Tall with no QD, or a 1 piece Daniel Defense  that doesn't need a bolt-on riser to become lower third. I don't want or need any skeletonized hotness, and I want minimal moving parts.

Personally, I don't feel like I have any need for QD. It's less about saving money than it is KISS. .. i.e. I'm not trying to be a cheapskate. 

If I'm being stupid and should just stick with what has been working flawlessly for me (LaRue Tall), I have no issue doing so. It just seems odd that I can't find a simple, tall, box-style mount.

 That SLR model is the closest to what I want that I can find.

I use a Daniel Defense lower 1/3 Cowitness mount on my AR to look over the top of my OTAL.  It's pretty simple and very sturdy.  I have not had any problems with it.  I can't remember the cost as t was a few years ago, but I want to say it was 75-100$.  I recommend it.

BlackBear207 posted:

What I want is a simple lower third mount without QD. For example: a LaRue Tall with no QD...

You could order the LaRue with the VFZ instead of the throw lever?  Saves you $25 and takes off the QD.  Sounds like exactly what you are looking for.

 

ETA:  Here is LT's description of it (its pretty much a bolt/nut where the throw lever was.  You tighten the nut and you are done):

About VFZ Mounts:
VFZ is a new theory in the concept of clamping accessories to MIL-STD-1913 rails. Instead of using a horizontal cross-bolt, the VFZ uses a vertical bolt that draws up a clamping foot against the lower angle of the rail, seating the mount similarly to a fully-closed LaRue lever.

Once installed on the firearm, index marks allow the user to remove the mount, then reattach to the same tension, providing unprecedented return to zero for a non-QD-levered mount. The unique vertical alignment of the clamp allows components that are structurally stronger than traditional cross-bolt designs.

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I've consistently used the KAC Micro Mount for years (civilian use). Personally I have not experienced any issues.  It's QD, but has been consistently rock solid. The kit allows various height adjustments, etc. You occasionally hear some bitching about the locking mechanism being "cumbersome", but that's not an issue for me.

DD also makes a Micro Mount (Rock and Lock). I've heard a lot of good things about it- but don't have any personal experience with it. It's not QD (ergo some say less apt to "snag"), absolute or lower co-witness, etc.

YMMV 

Installed a DD clamp on mount recently for a guy's H2 (both obtained from Joe Strohman, BTW).  

Appears very serviceable, it's simple and includes a spacer so you can have the co-witness that you want. 

I feel compelled to say, however, that I prefer the LT-660 (I have no experience with the VFZ).  Yes it's QD, but I've had to remove the optic and carry on with irons during a LMS carbine class when due to incessant PAC NW rain in Jan, the lenses got too smeared with mud, etc.  to see through, so I, myself, prefer QD.

FastSS posted:

http://www.brownells.com/optic...crews-prod81236.aspx

$7/screw, do they at least give you a reach around? The fuck? Looks like a pretty standard M3x4 with a Torx head.

I might have some of those hiding in my stock room here at work.  Probably
M3X4 with a t8 or t10 driver size.  If I find them I'll let Lobster know.  They probably wont be black oxide coated, however, just a plain bare stainless finish. And they wont be $7/screw, either. 

Correct on the M3x4 screws, and they can be found at home hardware box stores in Allen head versions.  They will do fine, I recently picked some up at The Home Depot.  Torx head variants can be found at Fastenal.  Be careful with stainless into the alloy of the sight, IIRC, they can gall up.  DO NOT pay $7 a screw; I've read that Aimpoint will send you what you need if you ask.

BTW, there is a version of LockTite for small fasteners, it's purple, I've taken to using it on optics.

 

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