Finally got an AK and am looking to lay in some magazines.

Need recommendations for that. 

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COMBLOC surplus, Bulgarian Circle 10. MAGPUL I have found all to be good. I stay away from the newer Croatian, the usual poor quality aftermarket . I've only see a couple that were said to be made in S. Korea and they had  poor QA/QC.  Some non metal mags may not fit in pouches as they are larger than the standard COMBLOC metal mags.  Ratty looking metal mags clean up well and replacement springs are available.

Dave

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I've been a latecomer to the AK magazine topic and have been going through the search over the last few months. I bought my Arsenal SA M-7 almost 15 years ago from a friend (I learned recently that there is a different between an SA M-7 and a SAM-7), and it came with ten surplus magazines at the time. I wasn't terribly interested in AKs - just wanted to have one in the collection to familiarize myself with how it functions - so I didn't put much effort into buying more mags. I bought three Toth Tool magazines about 5 years ago, which appear to be a great U.S.-made copy of the Circle 10 design, but they were out of stock for years, and I figured they were discontinued. I decided about a year ago that I wanted to pick up some more after hearing that surplus mags were getting scarce. I was unpleasantly surprised to find that surplus AK mags have gotten both expensive and very hard to find, for me, at least. The good old days that I hear a lot of people talk about, when steel mags were $3-$5 each (or cheaper), are apparently long gone. I've been to a half dozen shows in the past year, and I rarely see surplus mags for sale. Nearly everything is Croation, Korean, or Magpul. Surplus Eastern European mags, when they show up, tend to sell for $20-$35 each. I decided I wanted a few Hungarian 20-round "tanker" magazines, and they run $30-$40 (old but unused), if you can still find them. Russian Bakelites in great, practically unused condition showed up a bunch of places lately, but they're $50-$75 each.

There seem to be only a few online places that have them lately: What A Country (E. German, Polish, Hungarian, but many out of stock), Clearview Investments (Hungarian, free shipping over $100), and Numrich (commercial Bulgarian steel mags) are places that I've found them recently.

I'd watch out for the various commercial polymer magazines that sound like they're quality - Bulgarian made smooth sides, for example. Many of them seem to be good range mags (for around $10 each) but don't look like they'll hold up long term. There are some videos of people breaking the locking lugs off them, and even the ones with the thin steel inserts in the feedlips and locking lug seem questionable. Mine function fine at the range, but I wouldn't found on them in a pinch.

I would consider the current production Bulgarian commercial steel magazines that are available from Numrich, Gun Mag Warehouse, and a couple other places. They are supposedly made on the same patterns / dies as Bulgarian military mags that the commercial manufacturer acquired. They feel and weigh the same as a Bulgarian surplus mag, but they have a plastic follower and internal locking plate (baseplate is metal). That bothers some people, but Circle 10 mags have plastic followers too...

I recently found a half dozen Chinese "flatback" mags (Norinco?) in apparently new condition at a local shop. I thought that was a great deal, because I hadn't seen any of those for sale in years, and they're about $35 online if you find them. It was a little awkward though, because the dealer told me they were $18 each, sold them to me, and then realized that he had apparently intended to price them at $28. He honored the price he quoted but was bit upset at himself. I've read that the Chinese army (PLA) has been producing and exporting military magazines, so they may not exactly be "surplus," but they are surplus-quality magazines. I've heard nothing but good things about them, but I haven't tried them yet.

Anyway, that was long-winded, but I wanted to share my experience over the past year, since I've been going through this. I know a lot of long-time AK owners are shocked at these prices, but that seems to be the reality now as Eastern European supplies have dried up, or certain types have been banned from import.

Dave

These new Bulgarians run great and have an awesome price:

https://www.cdnnsports.com/762...__SID=U#.XidkCvlKiM8

 

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3ACR_Scout posted:

Yikes, my apologies for all the typos, weird auto-corrects, and disjointed sentences in that last post - I was typing in a hurry and didn't take the time to proofread.

Dave

 

Not to worry, brother.  Your post came out very good with a big info dump that is reminiscent of a bygone time here, and is useful, to me at least, as my oldest son is into the AK pattern rifles and I’ve had a long interest in AK pistols.  

Thanks.  

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Linz posted:
PlasticMag posted:

Russian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Magpul steel-lined, in that order. I've owned hundred of mags, those are the quality ones.

How do you rate the Chicom ones?

Hit or miss. I've had a handful which were great and some where they wouldn't play well with anything but my MAK90... Go figure.

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PlasticMag posted:
Linz posted:
PlasticMag posted:

Russian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Magpul steel-lined, in that order. I've owned hundred of mags, those are the quality ones.

How do you rate the Chicom ones?

Hit or miss. I've had a handful which were great and some where they wouldn't play well with anything but my MAK90... Go figure.

Thanks.

FYI avoid the new Croatian mags, they frequently require fitting.

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MOJONIXON posted:

 Not to worry, brother.  Your post came out very good with a big info dump that is reminiscent of a bygone time here, and is useful, to me at least, as my oldest son is into the AK pattern rifles and I’ve had a long interest in AK pistols.  

Thanks.  

I'm glad it was useful info. I've been a little obsessed with tracking down surplus mags and have done a lot of research, so I'm happy to pass along what I've learned. I'm heading to another show this weekend to see what's available.  The only problem with picking up more mags over the past year is that I'm getting the urge to buy another AK. My SA M-7 is fantastic, but it's heavy and very limited in what parts are available for customizing / modernizing it because of the milled receiver. My research has shown me that I missed out on the various Russian and other European rifles that have either sold out or been banned from import. I'm considering one of the newer generation Palmetto State stamped AKs just as a fun range gun, or maybe their AK-V to try a pistol caliber AK format pistol. Neither of these are things that I "need," but...

KALTESHERZ, that's good to hear about the Bulgarian commercial mags.  Numrich had them on sale for $11.95 for a long time, with free shipping on orders over $75. I ordered 6 last year but haven't tried them yet; I wish I had gone back for more while they were on sale. CDNN's price is still good, but I keep hoping Numrich will put them on sale again.

I hear lots of reports about mags requiring filing / fitting, but I've had good luck with my milled Arsenal. Every mag that I've tried locks up solidly and smoothly. I haven't tried Yugo, Croatian, or Korean mags (except a 40-rounder that I think is Korean), and I plan to skip those in favor of hunting for more surplus mags.

Dave

All, FYI:

Atlantic Firearms currently has 5 packs of Bulgarian steel mags for $70 and 2 packs of Romanian steel mags for $30. 

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