Those jokers are discontinued, but I have had them recommended by at least one person in the know on clothing which is well-suited for travel gear.  He does not have a tactical background and most of his other recommendations are more suited to the business traveler.

Does anyone have experience with that model of pants, and have a recommendation for something similar?

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I’m very happy with my 5.11 Defender Flex trousers, no one would bat an eyelid wearing them for travel, business, whatever. A slightly more ‘modern’ fit for some tastes but they suit me fine.

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Did a lot of T&E trying to find “the” pants, I wanted a pair that provided me the features yet a somewhat less attention/causal profile.

Tactical Distributors Neptune Pants

Superior Mobility, ventilation holes are a gift from the above, features/pockets.

https://www.tacticaldistributo...e-tactical-pants-3-0

 

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Tactical Distributors Carlos Ray Pants

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5.11 Defender Flex Jeans

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On the TD pants, what is the fit at the lower part/cuff area?  I have a pair of Columbia trekkers that I wear a lot just kicking around, the cuff feels like you could pull the pants off with a ski boot on, they are so wide.  

I definitely want a tapered leg profile more like a pair of slim fit Dockers, but with room for my thighs.

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POSREP: UAE

They are more of a straight cut, (not slim) not super wide but the material does stretch slightly.  The cut for the upper leg, hips, and crotch is generous for those of us with tree trunks. I wear vasque juxts or la sportive boulder x’s and they go over the top without getting stuck on the tongue or heel (no drag issues).

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DO NOT put the TD Carlos Ray pants in the dryer more than once.  Otherwise, great for travel and casual wear.  

I have a couple different pairs of pants from Kuhl.  The Konfidant Air make pretty good range, general outdoors pants and are slightly tapered.  The Renegade pants are a light soft shell and slightly tapered and the Revolr Rogues are more tapered and are my standard, go out in public pants.   My only complaint is that they are pretty light weight materials and don't "hang" correctly at the hem, unless I get them a little longer and have them cuffed and sewn for more "weight" at the bottom.  

You can search their web site with the filters you need.  

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I'll add to the 5.11 defender flex recommendations.  I've got the jeans and pants and find them to have plenty of room in the thigh and a good taper down to the ankle.

I only wish they'd offer a lighter wash in the jeans.

I've been pretty impressed with their offerings lately....I've got the Apex and new Icon and they are just all around great stuff.

Have you tried the Condor Cipher jeans? They have a tapered leg which isnt normally my thing but they work well as urban camo as they dont appear to be adorned in pouches and velcro and knife cut pockets etc. The material stretches very comfortably for any sort of physical activity and they have a double mag pouch (or atleast I can get 2x G19 mags in each side) on each side as well as the regular jean pockets. Mags on one side, other side works well for phone wallet etc. Works great so far.

I found them for around $40 usually. 

https://www.amazon.com/Condor-...aps%2C211&sr=8-2

DVOR has them on sale for around $27 if I remember correctly.

Rich275 posted:

DO NOT put the TD Carlos Ray pants in the dryer more than once.  Otherwise, great for travel and casual wear.  

 

That is no bullshit, they went from "wow these are great pants" to "uhhhh, when the fuck did I start buying clothes from douchebag hipsters?"  Thanks to Levi's jacking their prices, turning into some anti-gun SJW cuckboi's and forgetting to make jeans in cowboy boot cut.... I figured out that Wrangler actually makes pants in sizes besides "skinny no-ass-at-all nut-cutter".   Their ATG line are cut for people that didn't skip leg day, lots of high priced features in a low priced pant. 

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