Guys,

I gotta get my uniforms here in a couple of days, and totaling it all up, it looks like I'm gonna cash out at about $1500 for my Class A's, Blues, 2 more sets of ACU's. APFU jacket,pants, shirts (we have a modified APFU shirt), fleece, skull cap, ACU Gortex, dress coat etc.


Anybody know where I can get it all for cheaper, even if it is a couple of different sites?

The most expensive items are the class-a's and blues, and I just can't seem to justify spending that much money on them when I won't be wearing them that much, and the A's are going away soon.
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Don't be a puss. O's (comparitively) make fat cash and should be able to shake out $300 for a set of A's...which will be with us for several more years before the wear out date.

And they are a required uniform item. AAFES contract "standard" grade are as cheap as you'll find. You can also check the thrift shops around most posts; there are many sets of A's there ready for another user, especially if you are a smaller lad.

Brandon

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UCDPP....

"It is a common mistake in going to war to begin at the wrong end, to act first, and wait for disasters to discuss the matter." - Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War 431 B.C.

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Originally posted by usmascott:
The most expensive items are the class-a's and blues, and I just can't seem to justify spending that much money on them when I won't be wearing them that much, and the A's are going away soon.


FWIW young warrior, don't skimp on either one. They will last you your entire career. You shouldn't need your blues until near the end of OBC. You can get them on post when the time nears. And believe me, a nice set of class A greens is worth the money, even if they're going away (not sure how soon though).

Karl

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They told us last semester we were commissioning in Greens..bought those.

Got word a week ago we are doing it in blues now. And im not on scholarship (its my 9th semseter).

Unless I can find them cheap I think im going to just find a set to borrow for comissioning.

Whens your comissioning date scott?

Rick

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Unless USMA is requiring you to have/will inspect for possession of a dresscoat (I assume by that you mean an overcoat?), I wouldn't spend the money on one now....maybe later on in your career, and only if you want. I never wore an overcoat in all my 10 years on active duty (and I actually did have an issued overcoat - that crappy, baggy, black sloppy looking piece of crap - issued a few years yearlier when I was enlisted).

Of course, being Infantry, we firmly believed that our Ranger Tab would protect us from all bad weather: heat, cold, rain, snow, etc... Seriously, it was the same mentality we had when it came to NOT wearing our issued field jackets in the winter. It was our stupid, macho Infantry mentality that had us buying BDU shirts 1-2 sizes larger just so we could layer sleepshirts/wool sweaters/field jacket liners/etc under them in the winter. I can recall gutting it out on 1-2 occasions in Class A's and the rain....sucked it up and drove on....

Don't also discount what proud parents and/or other family members may be willing to buy for you. My dad (at the time of my commissioning still an active duty Infantry O-6) insisted on buying me, either my blues or greens (too long ago to remember which ones).
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It was our stupid, macho Infantry mentality that had us buying BDU shirts 1-2 sizes larger just so we could layer sleepshirts/wool sweaters/field jacket liners/etc under them in the winter.


LOL! Been there, done that. ...Managed to get hypothermia once that way too.

Gary

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Originally posted by BooneGA:
They told us last semester we were commissioning in Greens..bought those.

Got word a week ago we are doing it in blues now. And im not on scholarship (its my 9th semseter).

Unless I can find them cheap I think im going to just find a set to borrow for comissioning.

Whens your comissioning date scott?

Rick


Dec 21st, you?
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There are places just outside the gate of most military posts that have "alternatives" to what AAFES sells. Half the time you get a better deal (or pay more for better materials), half the time you risk a purchase that will fall apart an hour in to your second dining in.

You're better off just going with what AAFES offers for now; all AAFES MCSS are created equal, but some are more equal than others.

The longer your career, the more opportunities you'll have to upgrade your setup. Over 24 years I've gone through 2 sets of blues (got my current set from an Concessionaire in Korea--authorized fabrics but made from much better weaves) and 2 sets of greens (got my current set at Ft Myer, VA--where the ACS and the SMA go for theirs--and where they had no less than 3 PREMIUM fabrics). Got the best set of gold-plated buttons I've ever seen anywhere at 'Hood. Got a Dress Blue Hat with a patent leather (not corfram) bill at 'Benning. I think I had my button holes tricked out at an alterations shop near 'Lewis.

The guys who have been around the longest (and traveled the most) always have the best setup b/c no one retailer has a line on the best gear.

Hopefully I wil beat the clock on the wear-out date on the greens, if for no other reason to be like the OGs who wore their OD pickle suits when we youngsters had BDUs, just because they COULD.

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FWIW young warrior, don't skimp on either one


A big +1. You'll hardly wear your A's, but you don't want to look like ca-ca when the time comes. In my experience I wore blues a lot more (dining ins/outs, holiday receptions, weddings, etc), so I was really glad they weren't low end.

I would think you could get the ACU items and your black overcoat cheap at any fine second-hand establishment near the gates of a major installation. A lot of times guys will dump brand new stuff for quick cash. You might have to check in a few times, though.
Straps hit it... Bottom line, be thrifty, but don't be "cheap". Sure you can shop around, but make sure that you get professional work done, because our appearance, in and out of uniform, reflects on all of us. Image is important.

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I've worn blues at least 2x as much as greens. I bought my greens from marlow white and they seem to be better than what AAFES offers. I don't remember the price difference, but at the time I didnt live too close to a MCSS, and I didnt know any other alternatives. Definitely don't skimp on quality if you can avoid it. A cheap uniform usually looks like a cheap uniform.
Do they still make you wear a garrison cap before you graduate OBC, or are you wearing the beret right after commissioning? If you need one I've got a 7 1/4 company grade garrison cap that's only been worn about twice.

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Originally posted by Sigo:
Do they still make you wear a garrison cap before you graduate OBC, or are you wearing the beret right after commissioning? If you need one I've got a 7 1/4 company grade garrison cap that's only been worn about twice.


No, we wear berets strait out of graduation.

don't know why the change.

Thank you for the offer though.
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Marlow Whites had a sale on Class A's recently. You might want to check their website.

As for some of the other things you'll need, try the alternate CIF. I've picked up new short and long-sleeved shirts for 30% of cost.

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Doesn't Marlow Whites (as the only surviving uniform tailor) still come to West Point and offer a package deal on a extended payment plan for ring-knockers?

You need a good set of blues. Unless you are in some REMF pogue branch where you wear Bs to work you can make do with MCSS greens until later.

My dad was a military fashion plate. Despite being an Infantry mustang and a 33 years on active duty USAR officer (which is technically impossible), he always wore 'bespoke' uniform, from cap to shoes.

My first Army Blues came from the now-gone Lautersteins in NY (whose business was based on USMA). Thanks to my father's influence and an amazing deal my mom found in at Lautersteins I had Army Whites as a LT in the 82nd (ordered by a USMA grad who was my size and never picked up - retailored at no cost). I bought a mess jacket at Fort Benning from Marlow White (same deal, ordered by a Signal officer who never picked it up - cost $45 and they changed the branch facings for $15; BTW you can change them once and they will still look good, twice won't work so when I went SF I had to sell it).

Of course, I also bought 20 sets of cotton OG-107 fatigues (not jungles) for $2.50 per shirt and $2.50 per trousers when they clearanced them at the old non-AAFES MCSS to make way for the permanent press shit fatigues. The money I saved paid to have the patches sewn on and shirts tailored.

As an officer you should look the best you possibly can in uniform. Wearing crap uniforms is like a Wall Street banker wearing Wal-Mart suits.

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As an officer you should look the best you possibly can in uniform. Wearing crap uniforms is like a Wall Street banker wearing Wal-Mart suits.


It doesn't matter if you're Guard or Active either. I hate seeing Guard officers wearing their old issued (when they were an EM) uniforms where they just added he pant and sleeve braid.

I mean for fuck sakes. Half he people working Ford's funeral were from my Guard BDE.

By good shit. I shows pride in yourself, your unit, your serice and your country.

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I'm a reservist officer. I've worn my A's once (for a DA photo) in seven years, even including the last three years on active-duty.
Get a decent pair of A's and blues, kit them out, then bag them nicely and hang 'em in the closet.

As a final note, when I was commissioned (ROTC) we could buy our uniforms from S4 for something like 50% (that's the only reason I ever had a raincoat and field jacket); doesn't USMA have something like that?
USMAScott,

If I remember correctly, cadets get a $20k plus career starter loan during junior year...why aren't you using that? And don't forget the one time $600 clothing allowance you get after graduation.

Also, unless you think you'll need your ACU gortex over your leave, I wouldn't get one. Most CIF issue gortex as well as other necessary cold weather gear. That would save you close to $200. And who wears dress coat these days?

My recommendation is to get the bare minimum but a decent set of A's and Blues. You can always buy more once you graduate and start getting paid 2LT pay.

Sleepy "Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the gun." Ash a.k.a. Bruce Campbell

The best deals I've seen for either a Class A Uniform or a set of blues is at Super Trooper (they're online).

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