Hello, 

Its time to buy new ballistic shields for our patrol guys. Whats out there now? I would prefer a viewing window and a 600 plus lumen light. Patrol will have limited training on their use and more then likely use them for bunkers at barricades. I know there are some rifle rated options out there now that are not crazy heavy. I am still waiting for the budget number to come down the pipe but would rather be ready with some ideas when it does. 

Thanks

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We fielded a bunch of shields for patrol in the last year or so. There are two, one pistol- and one rifle-rated, in each designated tactical vehicle. When I get back from vacation I’ll take a look at what we have. 

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Same here..  hand me downs from SWAT with a window and light . Don't know the brand but they're pistol rated. Better options are out there, just no $$.

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Roscoe's Daddy posted:

This is just one person's opinion: unless it's rated Level III or better, I wouldn't consider it.  YMMV.

Right up until you get a IIIA one and it's take or leave. I agree III or IV would be better; however, we have found acceptable uses for a IIIA shield in situations where we ultimately were successful. 

I needed to give them two choices so I submitted these two. 

1. Armor Express M1 Ballistic Shield, Threat Level IIIA, 24" x 36", 15.1 lbs., With Viewport

2. Intruder™ G2 – Type IIIA Shield

"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter. You will meet them doing various things with resolve, but their interest rarely holds because after the other thing ordinary life is as flat as the taste of wine when the taste buds have been burned off your tongue." -Ernest Hemingway

One of the shields we issue is a Protech Assault 2 level III, 16"x30". It does not have a light or window. I can't get my hands on our pistol rated shield. Our literature describes it as a United Shield International, unknown model, 24"x36". It has a window but no light. Regardless, the shields we field to Patrol don't look like they meet the preferences you listed. 

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"One of the nice things about being around other soldiers is they will suffer your bullshit gladly, knowing sooner or later you will shut up and listen to theirs." - Jim Morris, War Story

 

"The military was strange like that. In the middle of the night you run into a major problem that requires you to put your faith in someone you never met before and probably would never see again. But that person knocks himself out to do his job and helps you get on with yours." - Harold W. Coyle, Team Yankee

I want shield light because pointing a weapon light at people and things you do not want to shoot is a no go here. 

"Certainly there is no hunting like the hunting of man and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never really care for anything else thereafter. You will meet them doing various things with resolve, but their interest rarely holds because after the other thing ordinary life is as flat as the taste of wine when the taste buds have been burned off your tongue." -Ernest Hemingway

Hi guys,

With regards to shield use, whether that is for patrol or SWAT use, I do have an interesting product idea that I can relay.

It is getting traction on this side of the pond and I have also relayed the info to several U.S. ballistics manufacturers.

Please contact me from your official work email and I can send you a brief on it.

Best Regards!

Tuukka
Co-owner, Treaper Ltd

I bought some of the TSI 2 shields from ProTech a while back. Zero integral light capability (unless you order one installed at the factory (+$400 I think),  but lightweight, easily stowed, and was a helluva price step down from the next-up shield offered. I still run an old Body Bunker, but the TSI I worth a look I think. We have weaponlights as mandatory; there is a smaller add-on light offered by ProTech, the Taker B10 but we did not purchase or eval it.

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