Battle belt

I am looking into a first line belt. The Sure-Grip Padded Belt looks like a winner. For those that have used it, does the neoprene padding actually keep the belt from shifting? How is the neoprene for comfort? Are the access ports adequately positioned for a drop holster or subload?

As far as The VTAC Brokos Belt, Does the mesh inner lining actually aid in comfort? Does it shift? Does the belt slot arrangement work well? The VTAC belt appears to have more material in the back. Does this actually provide more lower back support?

Is there another belt that is a better choice...why?

Suspenders...do they actually help? Do they get in the way?
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I'm not sure about retail availability (got both of mine in the Swap Meet), but I'm a fan of the ICE battle belt. To me the contour of the belt helps it sit right, and the non slip lining at the small of the back helps it to stay put. I've hiked with it a few times (trying to lose my daypack to stay cool) and with 2x Nalgenes, dSLR w/ pouch, survival kit, snack pouch, and a horizontal GP as a mini butt pack with a shell and FAK in it, it rode great, very comfortable.

I havent used it with suspenders yet, but I have a set of BFG suspenders on the way as I type.

My only comparison is an ATS belt, and while not uncomfortable, the shape of the ICE belt agreed with me a lot more.

 

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I bought an HSGI Sure-Grip belt from a member on here who bought the wrong size and the openings for subloads did not line up correctly, which was why he was selling it. So, you need to make sure you get the right size if you buy one.

The neoprene will keep the belt in place. One time it stayed in place even though my pants started falling down from underneath it. After I tightened my pants belt a little more, and got it back on everything stayed where I wanted it.

I can't say if the neoprene is more comfortable than any other belt, as this is my first MOLLE belt. It's comfortable for me to wear. I haven't bought suspenders for it yet, so I can't say if they would be a help with this belt or not. I plan on getting some and trying them out, I'll get HSGI Suspenders when I do.

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Originally posted by Rob_Frey:
I bought an HSGI Sure-Grip belt from a member on here who bought the wrong size and the openings for subloads did not line up correctly, which was why he was selling it. So, you need to make sure you get the right size if you buy one.

The neoprene will keep the belt in place. One time it stayed in place even though my pants started falling down from underneath it. After I tightened my pants belt a little more, and got it back on everything stayed where I wanted it.

I can't say if the neoprene is more comfortable than any other belt, as this is my first MOLLE belt. It's comfortable for me to wear. I haven't bought suspenders for it yet, so I can't say if they would be a help with this belt or not. I plan on getting some and trying them out, I'll get HSGI Suspenders when I do.


Does the neoprene get hot?
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Good reference IMO. The ATS belt has been updated and improved though, so be aware.

This one talks about the BFG, ATS, and VTAC belts as well.

http://lightfighter.net/eve/fo...008371/m/19920555763

Good luck on your search. After research, I found the ATS belt worked for me. I have found it to be good enough to wear all day with a 1911, two mags, and two primary mags, with a small med kit and a dump pouch. In fact, it fits me well enough that I do dry fire "drills" in pajamas with no slipage or issues.
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Originally posted by Green Traffic:


Does the neoprene get hot?


Some, but I don't know if it's the neoprene or just having a belt covering my waist being the source of heat.

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Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

RE: Brokos belt
I found that there aren't any issues with the belt slipping left or right during movement. On occasion it may ride up an inch when squatting or bending over. To put things into context, I wear a H-150 belt as a trousers belt underneath the battle belt.

The mesh works great. Pads well without all the bulk.

The belt slot arrangement is a great feature. It provides a bit of support in the back due to the stiffener but there isn't a lot of extra material in the back.

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I've used both padded and unpadded from Tyr and Viking tactical, both very comfortable. Both do ride up when bending at the knees. A simple fix with some paracord wrapped around and thru molle. The padded feels like it gives good back support if worn tighter on waist, without a lot of discomfort.

Heres a photo of brokos, note how high it rides above my pant belt. No big deal, it drops back in place whenever I stood back up. Never really have to adjust for any shifting, if sized correctly on waist. When belt moves, it also displaces your holster, could be an issue.

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I've tried both the padded and non-padded brokos. Both have a tendency to move around and ride-up for me when running n' gunning drills. I even thought about running a subload to at least anchor it to one leg.

But I found that getting a set of suspenders and wearing it a bit higher on the waist solved it somewhat. The suspenders help a tiny bit in indexing your belt on yourself. The real value is it taking a few pounds of pressure off your hips. The problem lies with all the crap I have on the belt rather than the belt itself. It still shifts a bit when running hard and dropping prone.

I suggest the padded version. Like what Prouty said, it somewhat acts like lumbar support. If you ever plan to wear armor up top, the belt padding helps make your belt pouches stick out a bit from your waist for better accessibility.

I really can't think of any other molle belts that don't cost a right one but both of those belts are very nice....I do hear that the HSGI does not ride up and I know for sure the Viking Tactics belt does because that is what I am running. It is still a great belt because you can weave the inner belt in and out of the padded belt. Hope this helps

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I was going to run a new BFG belt without suspenders because it seemed to stay in place well. It was suggested one of the benefits of the suspenders is when you decide to take a piss you can unsnap and allow the belt to hang from the shoulders. I already have them so I will give them a try.

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