Beretta 1301

KOAM, I have had the opportunity to shoot that gun. Subjectively, the felt recoil was less than the standard, perhaps due to the limbsaver buttpad. I have a standard on loan for T&E from Beretta. I will own one as soon (as funds permit) with the pistol grip configuration.  

Location: North Carolina

Oddly enough the rep at Beretta USA didn't know anything about it, but referred me to Mesa Tactical.

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I didn't see the stock offered at Mesa Tactical. Between this and the factory short barrel kit for the ARX 100 that's also in the catalog, I'm actually excited about Beretta's new offerings. I can't tell you the last time-if ever-that happened.

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I called Mesa, and was told it should be available by the end of the month as it needed some final adjustments.  That could mean late June, or when hell freezes over of course as this is the gun industry that we're talking about.

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I set mine up with Nordic Comp mag extension, mesa 6 shell side saddle, and added a TLR1HL with a pressure switch. Recoil is softer than my 870s.  I've searched three houses and pointed it at the face of one wanted felon so far and all soo good. 

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Originally Posted by Red Beard:

I set mine up with Nordic Comp mag extension, mesa 6 shell side saddle, and added a TLR1HL with a pressure switch. Recoil is softer than my 870s.  I've searched three houses and pointed it at the face of one wanted felon so far and all soo good. 

RB I know this isn't the Stud Board here but could you post or PM me a pic or two of your completed 1301?

 

Being a VCS 870 (x2) owner, that comment " Recoil is softer than my 870s " got my attn. Bought a 1301 a little while back but it is still in the case, think I need to get it in the rotation & give the 870's some down time.

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Location: NETX

Originally Posted by K.O.A.M.:

Arms Unlimited has the 1301LE in stock for $1085 with free shipping.  I'm hopeful that someone's going to undercut that, or I may find myself piecing one together from Botach and Mesa Tactical.  

 

Grab a gun has them for $815.00:

 

grabagun.com/beretta-1301-tact-12-18-5-bl-sy-5-1-3.html

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I shot a charity sporting clay match today with my 21" 1301 Comp. it was right after getting off a midnight shift and I did pretty well (38 of 51) for being half asleep and having only shot clays twice before ever including once when I was 11...on my last stand (single rabbit) I loaded up 5 or so in the tube and after missing the shot I unloaded the rest of the tube in about a second...(and got it). I thought one of the range guys was going to shit himself! The guys I was with were cracking up but the old timers didn't seem amused...

I noticed that I smashed up my fiber front sight at a recent 3 gun match, what do we like as a replacement? Is Hiviz the way to go?

ETA: just read a thread on Brian Enos...Hi-Viz appears to be the way to go...

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

A SBS'd 1301 would be amazing but I'd base it off the Comp to get the opened up loading port & stuff if you have to cut down a barrel anyways...a buddy picked up one of the tactical models a little while ago and I was pretty surprised how much smaller it felt than my 18" 870.

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

Is anybody providing instruction or even a short guide specifically on the manual of arms of semi-auto shotguns (in my case the 1301)? I've had the patterning, load selection, handling, loading instruction but it was all oriented toward the 870 (and everything I can find online is heavily tilted to pump shotguns.) How, when, and why I'd want to use the unique operating features of a semi-auto for defensive use -- that's what I'm after (and probably malfunction clearance as I assume it must differ from pumps.)

Per Beretta, the 1301 cannot be SBSd due to the gas system. Trust me, I asked. We are looking hard at replacing our 870s with this gun. Price is the only sticking point. After much play, I have changed my mind. When I get one for myself, it will have the standard stock vice the pistol grip.   

Location: North Carolina

I currently have two Benelli M4s in addition to a Remington 870 MCS, and a little 20ga 870 Compact for the HH6.

For those of you with experience running both, would it be worthwhile trading the M4s for a couple of 1301 Comps?

I live 2 minutes away from our local shotgun club, and trying to shoot skeet, trap, etc, with my current guns is a little trying, to put it mildly.

I do however want to retain some of the other uses for the M4s, so getting dedicated trap/skeet guns is definitely not on the cards.

Regards.

Mark

Formerly known as ML

ML, my shooting partner had a Benelli M4...after shooting the 1301 he sold it and is very pleased with his choice. I have an 870 and only keep it around because it's set up the same as the ones we issue at work so if I ever get the notion to train with it I can. If it weren't for that I'd shit can it in a second for an 18" 1301 Tactical to go with my 21" Comp and would consider adding a 24" 1301 as a dedicated "game" gun...they also shoot soft enough that your lady could probably handle the 12GA over her 20GA 870 (also way lighter...).

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

Thank you for the information. I hadn't considered getting rid of the 870s, but if the 1301 is lighter and softer shooting than the 20ga 870, I would definitely consider it.

The fewer platforms we have, and fewer calibers, the better, as far as proficiency and maintenance/spares goes.

Regards.

Mark

Formerly known as ML

I'd definitely get her behind one to check out. I was pretty blown away by how soft it shot compared to my 870. With a quality 12GA reduced recoil load I don't see how anyone couldn't handle it...

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

Originally Posted by El Cid:

       
Any word on whether Beretta is going to address the problem with multiple shells being dumped from the mag and locking up the weapon? 

I want one of these, but not if Beretta will pretend there no issue.

       


Can you elaborate on this? Haven't heard about this.
Originally Posted by fixit69:
Originally Posted by El Cid:

       
Any word on whether Beretta is going to address the problem with multiple shells being dumped from the mag and locking up the weapon? 

I want one of these, but not if Beretta will pretend there no issue.

       


Can you elaborate on this? Haven't heard about this.

Seems pressing the button on the side releases 2 shells onto the lifter and locks up the gun something awful.   I've been tracking it on PF, and the folks there are already coming up with their own fixes...  I just think a large company like Beretta should step up and fix it, or stop selling it as anything more than a gamer gun.

 

https://pistol-forum.com/showt...1301-Tactical/page51

I shot a local USPSA match last night and was informed that all top 3 shooters at this years world shoot were running...1301's. Benny Hill who has been apparently not previously been reccomending 1301's for competitive shooters (he is the guy that basically invented all the mods for Benelli shotguns for 3 gun use and most of the top guys have been winning with his M2 super 90's for a long time) is now going to be offering 1301 mods...

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

Bump for great info on a shotgun of interest to me. Thank you Doc and everyone else who's contributed to this.

Has anyone cut down a 1301 comp barrel to 18" yet? If so, any issues with cycling? I'm 90% one version or another of this shotgun will be my next and possibly only shotgun purchase so I'm trying to get something that's as at home in a cruiser as in 3-gun.

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El Cid posted:
Seems pressing the button on the side releases 2 shells onto the lifter and locks up the gun something awful.   I've been tracking it on PF, and the folks there are already coming up with their own fixes...  I just think a large company like Beretta should step up and fix it, or stop selling it as anything more than a gamer gun.

 

https://pistol-forum.com/showt...1301-Tactical/page51

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XTCBX posted:
ML, my shooting partner had a Benelli M4...after shooting the 1301 he sold it and is very pleased with his choice. I have an 870 and only keep it around because it's set up the same as the ones we issue at work so if I ever get the notion to train with it I can. If it weren't for that I'd shit can it in a second for an 18" 1301 Tactical to go with my 21" Comp and would consider adding a 24" 1301 as a dedicated "game" gun...they also shoot soft enough that your lady could probably handle the 12GA over her 20GA 870 (also way lighter...).

 

Did you ever get the 24"?  Do you think the 21" or the 24" is a better choice if it's the only shotgun you will have?

 

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Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

I’m sticking with my 21”, for the 3 gun division I plan to mainly shoot in there is 8 max in the tube during the match (that’s how it’s set up below)...

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Some matches allow for 8 max in the tube at the start but as many as you want after so I add on another extension (see below) for thoes matches allowing me to quad load at the buzzer and have 12+1 for the stage.

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I don’t really think the 24” version offers much for me at this point & I believe that all thoes Benelli M2’s that have been winning matches for years with long tubes hanging off the front are 21” barrels as well so a longer barrel obviously isn’t necessary for this game. 

I think the 21” is the sweet spot for the 1301, with a light and a sling on mine I’d feel pretty good about going into harms way with it (in the shorter tube configuration) but the 18” T model handles very nicely and would be my choice for a dedicated fighting SG.

 

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

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Thank you, I think my decision is made, I came to the same conclusions.  Thanks for reinforcing it.

Your extensions are +3 and +4?

 I will read the other thread to see what mods you made, which brand are the accessories in the pics?

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Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

Rob, yes the 2 extensions I have are a +3 & a +4 from Nordic. I can and have used them in all 3 configurations with the Nordic coupler. With either the 3 or 4 on by themselves the gun feels very handy, the 12 definitely makes it unwieldy indoors. I have precut springs for each  configuration.

I had a limb saver put on when I had the loading port opened up (C-Rums) and he also put a rear sight on the rib. The only other thing on the gun is a Match-savers. I think all in I’ve got a little north of $1300 into it...a similarly done up M-2 would have been in the $2000+ range. 

I have a Nordic clamp on in the pics but have been using a free floating Comp-Tac tube brace with the 12 on and nothing when it is set up for 8. I’ve heard clamps can change POI of slugs and mine shoots Fiocchi 3gn slugs POA/POI at 50 yards and I don’t want to change that. 

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

XTCBX posted:

Rob, yes the 2 extensions I have are a +3 & a +4 from Nordic. I can and have used them in all 3 configurations with the Nordic coupler. With either the 3 or 4 on by themselves the gun feels very handy, the 12 definitely makes it unwieldy indoors. I have precut springs for each  configuration.

I had a limb saver put on when I had the loading port opened up (C-Rums) and he also put a rear sight on the rib. The only other thing on the gun is a Match-savers. I think all in I’ve got a little north of $1300 into it...a similarly done up M-2 would have been in the $2000+ range. 

I have a Nordic clamp on in the pics but have been using a free floating Comp-Tac tube brace with the 12 on and nothing when it is set up for 8. I’ve heard clamps can change POI of slugs and mine shoots Fiocchi 3gn slugs POA/POI at 50 yards and I don’t want to change that. 

 

I picked up my 1301 Comp today!

What brand and constriction choke tubes did you get?  I want some extended tubes, but not sure which ones you have actually used in a match.

 

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Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

I’m pretty sure mine are Briely? I bought my 1301 used and it came with a couple...I believe it’s a IC? Or an IM? Are thoes things? From the research I did when I got it it’s the one that most guys use for 90% of stuff at matches...It was the same as the non extended Beretta one that it apparently shipped with new? I can look when I get home if you want...

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

OK, mine came with IC (Improved Cylinder), but I want an extended one too.  If you would, please check which two you have in the extended chokes.  I think I know what I want, just trying to decide before I buy.  Thanks.

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Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

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