Beretta 1301

OK, mine came with IC (Improved Cylinder), but I want an extended one too.  If you would, please check which two you have in the extended chokes.  I think I know what I want, just trying to decide before I buy.  Thanks.

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Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

imageI looked, it’s a Briley extended IC...it was silver, then it got spray painted black for more death power. I’m pretty sure that’s what most guys run for 3GN. 

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

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Thank you, my research has led me to get that one, and a Modified tube at least to start.

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“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.”

- Robert A. Heinlein

 

Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

El Cid posted:
Originally Posted by fixit69:
Originally Posted by El Cid:

       
Any word on whether Beretta is going to address the problem with multiple shells being dumped from the mag and locking up the weapon? 

I want one of these, but not if Beretta will pretend there no issue.

       


Can you elaborate on this? Haven't heard about this.

Seems pressing the button on the side releases 2 shells onto the lifter and locks up the gun something awful.   I've been tracking it on PF, and the folks there are already coming up with their own fixes...  I just think a large company like Beretta should step up and fix it, or stop selling it as anything more than a gamer gun.

 

https://pistol-forum.com/showt...1301-Tactical/page51

 I have been shooting a 1301 Comp in IPSC (South Africa) for about 2 years and have never had the unintended release of shells. The bolt release button works on an articulated catch and has a feature to release shells when tipped backwards towards the rear. Imo it is a deliberate action. The longer portion of the release button lever extends forward from the button. I think it is more user error than anything else when the lever is tipped backwards unintentionally. 

I have since changed to the Benelli M2 SP which has a similar articulated bolt release/shell release system to the 1301 but it takes a much more deliberate action of tipping the button back wards to release shells than with the 1301.

My son has been shooting the 1301 in IPSC competition since I changed to the Benelli and he has also not had any unintended shell releases.

Hailstorm posted:
El Cid posted:
Originally Posted by fixit69:
Originally Posted by El Cid:

       
Any word on whether Beretta is going to address the problem with multiple shells being dumped from the mag and locking up the weapon? 

I want one of these, but not if Beretta will pretend there no issue.

       


Can you elaborate on this? Haven't heard about this.

Seems pressing the button on the side releases 2 shells onto the lifter and locks up the gun something awful.   I've been tracking it on PF, and the folks there are already coming up with their own fixes...  I just think a large company like Beretta should step up and fix it, or stop selling it as anything more than a gamer gun.

 

https://pistol-forum.com/showt...1301-Tactical/page51

 I have been shooting a 1301 Comp in IPSC (South Africa) for about 2 years and have never had the unintended release of shells. The bolt release button works on an articulated catch and has a feature to release shells when tipped backwards towards the rear. Imo it is a deliberate action. The longer portion of the release button lever extends forward from the button. I think it is more user error than anything else when the lever is tipped backwards unintentionally. 

I have since changed to the Benelli M2 SP which has a similar articulated bolt release/shell release system to the 1301 but it takes a much more deliberate action of tipping the button back wards to release shells than with the 1301.

My son has been shooting the 1301 in IPSC competition since I changed to the Benelli and he has also not had any unintended shell releases.

May we ask why you switched?

If it aint broken, fix it 'till it is.

I have a new version 1301 Comp 21 on order. Tentatively planning a +3 extension tube and Magpul furniture via Aridus. I'm on the fence about the Mesa side saddle, because I don't know if the rail on it will block the sight picture. (No plans for optics - regular non-open class 3-gun role.)

What other upgrades should I consider? I feel like a beefier front sight would be nice, but I'm not sure where to start.

I used a Hi-Vis F/O front sight on mine. Easy install and has worked very well for me for 3 gun stuff. Opening up the loading port helps if you twin or quad. A match saver is pretty much necessary for gaming...

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

So I just picked up the 1301 Comp. The weird thing though is that it's the new model with the serial number moved off of the loading port, but it still has the old style bolt release where hitting the back end can dump shells into the action and lock up the gun. Is this some kind of error on Beretta's part? I thought the new versions had a redesigned bolt catch.

That may have just been on the Tactical model? I used the Aridus add on fix on mine and it is a great solution. No way to accidentally drop the shells but I can still use the feature if I need to. 

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

There is a cheaper option than Aridus, Tau Development Group

I actually bought both, just in case.  I believe XTCBX is correct about the tactical model being the only one with the new latch, mine is the new Competition model and has the old latch.

 

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“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.”

- Robert A. Heinlein

 

Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

Took it out to 3-gun with the OEM furniture over the weekend and it definitely had a little more oomph than my 590A1. I suspect that's largely due to the lighter weight and much thinner butt pad. Apart from that, the big takeaway was that an IC choke is not at all tight enough for what I like to do. Had several instances of steel not falling or not moving fast enough for my tastes (spinners, etc) compared to my 18.5" 590A1 and its IM choke. That thing can spin a spinner in two shots.

Today I installed the Magpul kit on it. Tighter chokes due later this week. Looking forward to getting a proper tight choke in it and seeing how it runs from there.

With the rear sight that was put onto mine I was smashing 18”x12” steel plates at 50Y no problem. Mine hits about 8” high at 50 though so...a 10” plate at that distance would be a bit challenging but doable. Before the rear sight I just cut the F/O tube with the rib and was getting poa/poi. 

Joined: 13AUG2010         Location: Southern Arizona 

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