imageI looked, it’s a Briley extended IC...it was silver, then it got spray painted black for more death power. I’m pretty sure that’s what most guys run for 3GN. 

Joined: 13AUG2010        

Location: Southern Arizona 

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Thank you, my research has led me to get that one, and a Modified tube at least to start.

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Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

El Cid posted:
Originally Posted by fixit69:
Originally Posted by El Cid:

       
Any word on whether Beretta is going to address the problem with multiple shells being dumped from the mag and locking up the weapon? 

I want one of these, but not if Beretta will pretend there no issue.

       


Can you elaborate on this? Haven't heard about this.

Seems pressing the button on the side releases 2 shells onto the lifter and locks up the gun something awful.   I've been tracking it on PF, and the folks there are already coming up with their own fixes...  I just think a large company like Beretta should step up and fix it, or stop selling it as anything more than a gamer gun.

 

https://pistol-forum.com/showt...1301-Tactical/page51

 I have been shooting a 1301 Comp in IPSC (South Africa) for about 2 years and have never had the unintended release of shells. The bolt release button works on an articulated catch and has a feature to release shells when tipped backwards towards the rear. Imo it is a deliberate action. The longer portion of the release button lever extends forward from the button. I think it is more user error than anything else when the lever is tipped backwards unintentionally. 

I have since changed to the Benelli M2 SP which has a similar articulated bolt release/shell release system to the 1301 but it takes a much more deliberate action of tipping the button back wards to release shells than with the 1301.

My son has been shooting the 1301 in IPSC competition since I changed to the Benelli and he has also not had any unintended shell releases.

Hailstorm posted:
El Cid posted:
Originally Posted by fixit69:
Originally Posted by El Cid:

       
Any word on whether Beretta is going to address the problem with multiple shells being dumped from the mag and locking up the weapon? 

I want one of these, but not if Beretta will pretend there no issue.

       


Can you elaborate on this? Haven't heard about this.

Seems pressing the button on the side releases 2 shells onto the lifter and locks up the gun something awful.   I've been tracking it on PF, and the folks there are already coming up with their own fixes...  I just think a large company like Beretta should step up and fix it, or stop selling it as anything more than a gamer gun.

 

https://pistol-forum.com/showt...1301-Tactical/page51

 I have been shooting a 1301 Comp in IPSC (South Africa) for about 2 years and have never had the unintended release of shells. The bolt release button works on an articulated catch and has a feature to release shells when tipped backwards towards the rear. Imo it is a deliberate action. The longer portion of the release button lever extends forward from the button. I think it is more user error than anything else when the lever is tipped backwards unintentionally. 

I have since changed to the Benelli M2 SP which has a similar articulated bolt release/shell release system to the 1301 but it takes a much more deliberate action of tipping the button back wards to release shells than with the 1301.

My son has been shooting the 1301 in IPSC competition since I changed to the Benelli and he has also not had any unintended shell releases.

May we ask why you switched?

If it aint broken, fix it 'till it is.

I have a new version 1301 Comp 21 on order. Tentatively planning a +3 extension tube and Magpul furniture via Aridus. I'm on the fence about the Mesa side saddle, because I don't know if the rail on it will block the sight picture. (No plans for optics - regular non-open class 3-gun role.)

What other upgrades should I consider? I feel like a beefier front sight would be nice, but I'm not sure where to start.

I used a Hi-Vis F/O front sight on mine. Easy install and has worked very well for me for 3 gun stuff. Opening up the loading port helps if you twin or quad. A match saver is pretty much necessary for gaming...

Joined: 13AUG2010        

Location: Southern Arizona 

So I just picked up the 1301 Comp. The weird thing though is that it's the new model with the serial number moved off of the loading port, but it still has the old style bolt release where hitting the back end can dump shells into the action and lock up the gun. Is this some kind of error on Beretta's part? I thought the new versions had a redesigned bolt catch.

That may have just been on the Tactical model? I used the Aridus add on fix on mine and it is a great solution. No way to accidentally drop the shells but I can still use the feature if I need to. 

Joined: 13AUG2010        

Location: Southern Arizona 

There is a cheaper option than Aridus, Tau Development Group

I actually bought both, just in case.  I believe XTCBX is correct about the tactical model being the only one with the new latch, mine is the new Competition model and has the old latch.

 

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“The two highest achievements of the human mind are the twin concepts of “loyalty” and “duty.” Whenever these twin concepts fall into disrepute – get out of there fast! You may possibly save yourself, but it is too late to save that society. It is doomed.”

- Robert A. Heinlein

 

Joined: 4/22/09          Location: WI

Took it out to 3-gun with the OEM furniture over the weekend and it definitely had a little more oomph than my 590A1. I suspect that's largely due to the lighter weight and much thinner butt pad. Apart from that, the big takeaway was that an IC choke is not at all tight enough for what I like to do. Had several instances of steel not falling or not moving fast enough for my tastes (spinners, etc) compared to my 18.5" 590A1 and its IM choke. That thing can spin a spinner in two shots.

Today I installed the Magpul kit on it. Tighter chokes due later this week. Looking forward to getting a proper tight choke in it and seeing how it runs from there.

With the rear sight that was put onto mine I was smashing 18”x12” steel plates at 50Y no problem. Mine hits about 8” high at 50 though so...a 10” plate at that distance would be a bit challenging but doable. Before the rear sight I just cut the F/O tube with the rib and was getting poa/poi. 

Joined: 13AUG2010        

Location: Southern Arizona 

Looking to buy my first shotgun and after doing a lot of reading here and the errornet I’m pretty set on the 1301 Tactical.

I see there’s a version 2 with the optima bore- any experience with the new version ? the tighter the pattern the better except for ducks?

I have three AR so this would be for shooting clays for fun and possibly HD. 

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Joined: 11/2/05         Location: Hoppy beer and tacos.

I recently purchased a 1301 LE Model with the Mesa Stock etc. Has anyone changed the front sight out to a fiber optic or otherwise?

“Then I heard the voice of the Lord saying, ‘Whom shall I send? And who will go for us?’ And I said, ‘Here am I. Send me!’”
"Fuck the know it alls.They don't have to do it, and don't have the balls to do it"

Pat Rogers.

Hile come join the Gague club.... we have buckshot 

I am a Deacon from the Church of the Painful Truth 

...it's not the arrow, it's the Indian 

"In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." -George Orwell

.45ACP, because sometimes short, fat and slow will do the job.

"Stand your ground. Don't fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war let it begin here." Captain John Parker, to his Minute Men on Lexington Green, April 19, 1775.

I put this girl together back in January... still need to pick up an Aridus side saddle and get her out to the range.  Can't believe this has just been sitting in the safe unshot all year.  Too much emphasis on pistol practice.
 

Joined: 2JAN2004

Location: South Florida

Today I shot the Beretta 1301 and Breda B12i Comp/Tactical  [http://bredausa DOT com/products/] in comparison testing. They are both super-smooth operationally. I came away preferring the Breda B12i because I shot more accurately with it and it was easier for me to manipulate. It should be considered a serious alternative to the 1301. Or heck, just buy them both. Then again, when my 870 Wingmaster returns from Vang, I'll have to redo the testing three ways instead of two.  Already on my to-do list.

My agency is transitioning to the 1301 right now; as an instructor, I've had mine a while, and I purchased my own prior to being issued one.

I used to not have a whole lot use for the shotgun...I just found the 14" barrel bead sight 870 sub optimal for almost everything beyond 25 yards; the 1301 Tactical has definitely made me rethink the role of the shotgun; there are many tasks for which it is an excellent tool.

Going through transition course for the rank and file has been pretty pain free; the manual of arms is pretty simple to get used to.

Thus far, the only gun related malfunctions we have seen are a result of over torqueing the clamp on the Nordic Components magazine extension; this binds the magazine spring causing feed issues due to erratic to no spring tension.

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Some will die in hot pursuit while sifting through my ashes

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Joined: June 2011

Location:  Kalispell, MT

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