Best Setup For Hog Hunting

South West Houston ranch

Day hunts only but use WML at dusk/dark

.30 cal minimum and semi auto recommended 

Stationary blind with feeder depending on range , iron sight semi auto .30 ( i use my M1 garand) or LPVO/RDS  

We  we push the woods and we get a herd, a large capacity .30 ( .300 Blackout, 7.62x39, .308, or 6.5 Grendel) with Aimpoint or similar is helpful

Last push we (4 shooters) shot 11 )hogs ...thats alot of pork

 

Depends on what you want to carry...and how many hogs you want..plus a sidearm and big fucking knife

 

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CAE5 posted:

PVS14 mounted behind an aimpoint
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PVS14 on a Crye Nightcap on the non shooting eye?

I highly recommend the PVS 14 on a head mount, used in conjunction with a weapon mounted MAWL-C, MFAL, DBAL, PEQ15, or even a Vis laser (if used with discipline).

The weapon mounted PVS14 is hard to scan with and suffers from poor field of view. 

With head mounted NVG, you can continuously scan simply by turning your head.

If you are in a tight blind or a brushy hide, every movement of the weapon with NVG mounted is potentially a warning to the prey when a branch is rubbed or swayed.

I can bring a spare PEQ2 to the TX Hogg hunt. You would be welcome to borrow it for the duration. That is, if you are not planning to by a  MAWL or a PEQ15. Ownthenight.com and TNVC both have  Gov't power PEQ15 for not crazy money.

On the other hand, DBAL units show up on the HESM sorta regularly for easy money.

arcticlightfighter posted:

South West Houston ranch

Day hunts only but use WML at dusk/dark

.30 cal minimum and semi auto recommended 

Stationary blind with feeder depending on range , iron sight semi auto .30 ( i use my M1 garand) or LPVO/RDS  

We  we push the woods and we get a herd, a large capacity .30 ( .300 Blackout, 7.62x39, .308, or 6.5 Grendel) with Aimpoint or similar is helpful

Last push we (4 shooters) shot 11 )hogs ...thats alot of pork

 

Depends on what you want to carry...and how many hogs you want..plus a sidearm and big fucking knife

 

I have this image in my head of an M1 Garand, preferably the T-26/"Tanker" variant, .30-06 or .308, with a long bayonet honed to a razor edge....for just in case.

http://www.typo.org/~web/guns/m1-garand/garand-accessories/fixed-bayonet.jpg

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There is a company that makes a picatinny rail for mounting  a MRDS where the rear peep apature is on the Garand.

I found this intriguing however there is something about a stock Garand with iron sights that’s appealing.

Dorsai, I’ll bring a bayonet next time and get some pictures 

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Not using thermal?

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arcticlightfighter posted:

Dorsai, I’ll bring a bayonet next time and get some pictures 

...Stuck in a pig!!

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Dorsai posted:
arcticlightfighter posted:

Dorsai, I’ll bring a bayonet next time and get some pictures 

...Stuck in a pig!!

Then squeeze the trigger.

I tried boar spearing a few times: once the blade is jammed in the boar...it can be a bit hard to hang on.

Let go or loose your footing (bloody mud) and the boar will (justifiably) turn on you: those tusks will do you a number.

Trick is to hang on, keep your footing & use the spear haft as a lever to get the boar off it's feet & onto it's side.

Dorsai...your #1MkIII with the sword bayo would be a true test for you.

Linz posted:

Let go or loose your footing (bloody mud) and the boar will (justifiably) turn on you: those tusks will do you a number.

Umm... that's putting it mildly.  I've taken care of a few people who got into it with a boar... the tusks literally rip you open.  The wounds are ragged, filthy, and get infected every time.  

Those bastards also bite... and those wounds get infected too. 

Real Talk. 

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As much as I'm giddy about March, I am also very well aware that this is not a joke.  Given my luck and medical history,  I'm going to act like I got dropped into Jurassic Park.  

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I really need to up my game here.  I have (access to) an old PVS-14 that is on it's last legs, and need a IR laser.  I've used it behind a T1 on a SBR and collected pork, but I've used NVGs and IR lasers quite a bit in the Army and realize how sub optimal a weapon-mounted night vision can be.  I have an old set of PVS-7s as well, which make me appreciate that they're not PVS-5s.  For pig smackin, I'd probably use them over the 14 if I had a good laser.  

I need to start holding out for bigger bribes.  

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Want to mess with me?

(This one is probably a 2 to 3 year old German Wildschwein, the tusks have not curved jet but are straight rippers, these are the most dangerous here.)

In a Berlin City-park this Terrier awoke a sleeping pig and got his belly ripped open, his owner made the bad mistake to step between them and got is leg ripped open, thankfully no blood vessel where opened!

So enjoy your hunt, but be careful!!!

 

For the hunting dog handlers searching for wounded boars here in Germany, there are special protective trousers with Dyneema inserts...

h ttps://www.livingactive.de/pfanner-nachsuchehose-rot

 

On a side note, I also learned a few days ago from a farm-machine operator, that if you don't see wild boars in the farmland landscape here in Germany at dusk / dawn, there likely will be a band of wolfes around! The groups of pigs are clever and stay in the underbrush than were they can protect themselves better than in the open.

So, what I'm picking up here is there's a good chance one of these things is going try to get even with me for years of abusing pork chops.  

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Consigliere posted:

So, what I'm picking up here is there's a good chance one of these things is going try to get even with me for years of abusing pork chops.  

Just don't shoot them betwixt the eyes with anything less that a .44 Magnum.  That just makes them mad.

 

 

 

 

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Linz posted:
Consigliere posted:

So, what I'm picking up here is there's a good chance one of these things is going try to get even with me for years of abusing pork chops.  

Don't forget confusing 'McRibs' with them.

Wait....McRibs aren’t pork????!!!!!

 

My life just lost direction.  

Trajan Aurelius posted:
Consigliere posted:

So, what I'm picking up here is there's a good chance one of these things is going try to get even with me for years of abusing pork chops.  

Just don't shoot them betwixt the eyes with anything less that a .44 Magnum.  That just makes them mad.

If your handgun doesn't have a "4" in the caliber, preferably accompanied by "magnum," you shouldn't be taking it hog-hunting.  

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A former coworker whacked 20 plus hogs with a Glock 20.

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About 20 years ago, I was working some German bred dogs, and met a guy from Germany at a breed meeting .  He looked exactly like Alan Alda, but wasn't a liberal freak as far as I could tell.  He told some pretty fantastic tales of boar hunting and showed me pictures of a dagger that had been passed down through several generations in his family that was used to kill the boar after the dogs had grabbed it, as depicted in the video above.  That's some pretty ballsy shit right there.   He invited me to go hunting with him if I ever got to Germany.  Sadly I was way too broke to ever get there at the time, and never got to go.    

A few months ago I was out in southeastern Oklahoma doing some work related shit, and stopped at a convenience store about 2300 one night.  Parked there  were a couple raggedy beat up pickups carrying dog boxes full of pit bulls, pulling trailers with $20,000 side-by-side UTVs.  A herd of rednecks and redneckettes were icing beer and buying rolling papers and getting ready to go 'hog hunting'.  There were way more  tattoos than teeth in that  crowd.  

I couldn't help but think that 'ol Alan would have got a hell of a laugh out of that, and also  wondered how many of the rednecks would have the sack to run up to a European boar and kill it with a fuckin' knife.  

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Magnum Research makes a revolver in 45-70, with a 2.5” barrel no less. That is the belly gun back up for the hog trip. The first round kills and guts it, the second round the powder blast cooks it

Location Texas.

 

"So what are you gonna do if we get hit on this trip?" "Me?, I'm going to shoot some good pics of you nuking their ass. You do your job, I'll do mine. If I have to do yours,(unless you're the medic) we're probably all screwed!" - Standard reply , from Desert Storm through Iraqi Freedom

One of my coworkers does the dog/ knife thing . Dogs catch them and hold them, he knifes it, pork chops ensue

Location Texas.

 

"So what are you gonna do if we get hit on this trip?" "Me?, I'm going to shoot some good pics of you nuking their ass. You do your job, I'll do mine. If I have to do yours,(unless you're the medic) we're probably all screwed!" - Standard reply , from Desert Storm through Iraqi Freedom

MAC19D posted:

About 20 years ago, I was working some German bred dogs, and met a guy from Germany at a breed meeting .  He looked exactly like Alan Alda, but wasn't a liberal freak as far as I could tell.  He told some pretty fantastic tales of boar hunting and showed me pictures of a dagger that had been passed down through several generations in his family that was used to kill the boar after the dogs had grabbed it, as depicted in the video above.  That's some pretty ballsy shit right there.   He invited me to go hunting with him if I ever got to Germany.  Sadly I was way too broke to ever get there at the time, and never got to go.    

I couldn't help but think that 'ol Alan would have got a hell of a laugh out of that, and also  wondered how many of the rednecks would have the sack to run up to a European boar and kill it with a fuckin' knife.  

Did someone say Germans?

Long time ago I was pig hunting with some friends & we stopped off in a small town to restock on fuel, ice & other consumables.  And a counter lunch at the local Hotel/pub. 

There we met a party of Germans who were purchasing leather for a Heer boot contract & were sensibly checking out the suppliers.  One had hit the midday beer a bit much & was very talkative: he was a boar hunter & instructor of those applying for licenses, memberships etc.  So it was "noble boar" this & "hunter standards" that: you not only needed to do the Lore Of The Forrest exams but were also assessed on dress, quality of firearm, presentation etc.  This in a Queensland country pub.

After an extended lecture, one of my companions laughed at him & impolitely told him he did not know anything about it. One the other Germans face palmed. The shouting ended with him been shown a trailer load of dead grunter on ice (sick/parasite ridden ones left for their mates) & various 7.62 semi rifles that did the job.  He was gobsmacked & then the tears started at his "noble boar" shot by scruffy unshaved "barbarians" (Who, me?) with AR10, M14 & L1A1 and unfashionably attired (desert boots, cut offs, various hats- all well used.

I will comment though- with the boar distracted by a dog on its primary sexual characteristic & others chewing a way at extremities...knifing it is a lot easier that running one down & doing it with no canine support.

com cam guy posted:

One of my coworkers does the dog/ knife thing . Dogs catch them and hold them, he knifes it, pork chops ensue

Just don't do the dog/knife work next to a cliff!

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...unting-accident.html

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My brother was relating to me how he had to kill several this morning with a farmer friend.  While they do on many occasions hunt them at night , that does not keep the population in check.  The farmer has resorted to a large drop type professional trap operated via a phone app.  He said it’s about 12’ in diameter.  When they are around the trap he gets a notification and can watch it in real time.   When there are multiple hogs under it he triggers it.  They then drive out in a skid steer and someone gets lifted in the bucket to shoot down into the trap and mil the hogs.  He noted today that they were not impressed with Hornaday Critcal Defense 9mm but plus P .45 loads were effective.  They then dig a hole and use a chain to drag the hogs into it.

Trapping, poison and aerial gunnery are the "wipe out herds" level of effectiveness due to how fast hogs breed. Hunting is a significant number but mostly trims off the extras. 

Traps can get 10 or 20 at one go.  Helo hunters roaming an area can get 20 or 30 in two passes or so if the area has a bunch.. problem is ONE PAIR of hogs can produce 20 plus offspring in a year.

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fmfbest posted:

He noted today that they were not impressed with Hornaday Critcal Defense 9mm but plus P .45 loads were effective.  They then dig a hole and use a chain to drag the hogs into it.

I'm reminded of that 'Pistolero' magagazines 'Bullets Vs Hogs' article & shoot.

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