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Happy Independence Day guys!

I’m starting to piece together a NV setup and looking to pick up a helmet first. Wanting to go ballistic for the occasional shoothouse class or other general preparedness.

I’ve been looking around and weighing what’s actually available with the price and features. I’m not looking for the cheapest, but the best value for someone who’s not a “professional user.”

Budget is <$1k (hopefully I can save a few hundred more)

Looking around and researching it looks like Team Wendy might fit the bill with their 20% off sale right now. From what I understand they lead in the comfort department and I wouldn’t need to upgrade pads and such.

The other leading option is a Gentex TBH-IIIA MC High Cut Helmet. Best price I’ve found is around $700 but my understanding is you need to upgrade pads and suspension to be on par with the comfort of the TW. And may end up being the same price. I’m also unsure if it’s actually available at some of the vendors I looked at. (What’s also interesting is the price on those ranges anywhere from the $700 to $1kish mark, not sure why there would be that much variance.)

Ops Core pricing is crazy high, same with A lot of the other name brands.

So what options do y’all suggest? Anything I’m missing?

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I do not think HHV or CPG are well regarded here.  They appear to stop IIIA threats, but my understanding is they use knockoff accessories, so you may have inconsistencies when mounting NODs or rail accessories.  Furthermore, they are made with Kevlar.  The Ops Core (AFAIK) uses HDPE with carbon fiber IOT achieve their ballistic rating.  This tends to be lighter AND Helmet Technology is trending towards HDPE as a better material for ballistic threats (see the ECH for example).  

I personally use the Ops Core but like you said, you either have to buy the 4D pads or buy the Lux Liner.  The original High Density Foam crushes your head, especially if you have earpro or NODS on your noggin.  

I do not have experience under the TW helmet.  However, I use their suspension systems in 2 of my other helmets, so I would expect comfort and control to be top quality.   The Cam-fit retention is top notch.   Of those you listed, that is probably the one to go with.  My only gripe is TW's Hilary controversy.    

I got a revisions helmet from TNVC a couple years ago that was comperable to my issue helmet.  I believe Revisions sold their helmet line to another company. But, TNVC has a good range of helmets from known makers as well.  Helmet upgrading is in my opinion a very personal.  Things like sizing and head shape play a big role in helmet fit.  The suspension also plays a big role, the old 5-10 dollar USGI clothing and sale special loves to losen itself up when you are at the range.    I added a pricey dial kit to my personal helmet and found that it fit more comfortably with the stock suspension and pad kit properly adjusted, YMMV.  

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Team Wendy, Galvion (formerly Revision), OpsCore/Gentex, Crye, MSA/Gallet ... companies with history, with .gov contracts, that have been through a legit selection process. 

I've got three helmets - OpsCore as primary, MSA/Gallet ACH for crowd control, and another MSA mid-cut as a spare. If I needed to replace either of the first two it'd be T/W or Galvion unless there was a fit issue.

HHV and CPG are Chinese garbage, do not buy those things unless you are just dressing up for fantasy tactical camp..... The ones Erick listed above are all good to go and trusted. I've been using a Team Wendy for the last few years as it was recommended to me by Pat, when I decided I wanted something better than the USMC issue helmet for the shoot house classes. Have not seen a need to upgrade since then, but if I needed a second helmet I would likely buy another TW. As Pat told me then "It's like sex on your head..." as much as any helmet can be with Peltors and NOD's hanging off it. 

The Avon (formerly 3M) helmet line is solid, affordable, and available with the TW cam retention if desired.  3M just sold the armor production line to Avon a few months ago but it is the same product (3M itself purchased the armor line from Ceradyne).  I was involved in the selection and purchase of ~150 helmets for my team and another in the area and the ULW was what we went with.

Dan

@Community Member posted:

The Avon (formerly 3M) helmet line is solid, affordable, and available with the TW cam retention if desired.  3M just sold the armor production line to Avon a few months ago but it is the same product (3M itself purchased the armor line from Ceradyne).  I was involved in the selection and purchase of ~150 helmets for my team and another in the area and the ULW was what we went with.

Dan

Dan, 

3M ULW seemed like a solid choice but I couldn’t find it anywhere. Do you have a line on where they’re available for civilian purchase? Are they still sold under the 3M ULW name?

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Dan, 

3M ULW seemed like a solid choice but I couldn’t find it anywhere. Do you have a line on where they’re available for civilian purchase? Are they still sold under the 3M ULW name?

The 3M ULW, also known as the November series of helmets, is all now branded as Avon Protection.  On the non .gov purchase side, I believe Optics Planet is a retailer of them, which, if you can dig up a 10% off code like they send out periodically, could be doable.  Our LE purchase was done through Strack Tactical who covers our region (northeast) not sure if they also do commercial sales.

@Community Member posted:

The 3M ULW, also known as the November series of helmets, is all now branded as Avon Protection.  On the non .gov purchase side, I believe Optics Planet is a retailer of them, which, if you can dig up a 10% off code like they send out periodically, could be doable.  Our LE purchase was done through Strack Tactical who covers our region (northeast) not sure if they also do commercial sales.

Thanks Dan, looks like OP is restricting sales to gov/LE

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Well out of sheer luck I may have a line on a Revision (Galvion) Viper P4 high cut helmet. Doesn’t seem to be much info out there about these from a brief search, so what’s the 411 on comfort with these? Will I be wanting to upgrade pads or is it good as is?

As mentioned above, I had the ACH cut version.  I actually liked the stock config, it matched my work helmet.  Start by trying it on.  Do you have access to other peoples helmets for sizing or ideas?

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