I know most will read the topic and immediately have negative thoughts. Forget about the Serpa for a few minutes and continue to read my ramblings.

A few months ago I first heard about a new holster that was going to change thoughts and would be available for the STI Staccato P pistol. It wasn’t Safariland and at first I dismissed it. 

After SHOT pictures and positive comments started coming out from people I respect and consider to know. The pictures really didn’t sell me on it the comments did. 

I wanted to wait for the STI version because that’s what I carry on duty. I was also waiting for the optic version as well. I can’t wait very well and decided to just buy one to see what all the fuss was about.

Currently as of last week they have levels 2 and 3. For the Glock 17/22 and Sig 320. The only lights they support at the moment are from Streamlight.

The only non optic striker fired gun I have at the moment is a tired old gen 3 Glock 22. I also had a Streamlight TLR-H1. My Sig has a RMR Ron it so the decision was fairy easy. Plus ordering direct from Blackhawk allowed me free shipping and a 30 day period where I can ship it back for a refund. I’m not shipping this back. May sell it to fund a optic version in the future but not disappointed with the holster. 

The holster arrived the same week I ordered it. Very sturdy and appropriate for Patrol. The pistol fits in the holster positively and no slop or wiggle. Still can be used in one hand manipulation. 

Had some of the big DT guys try to yank it off my belt and the only thing that they accomplished was pulling me around. I wanted to see how it would handle some of the riggers of Patrol work. 

Right now it is not compatible with the QLS system but I have an adapter in the mail and should be here tomorrow. It may not be a solution.

Available cant out of the box. 

This is the first Blackhawk holster I would voluntarily wear on duty. I will have more information after this weekend.

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I was wearing gloves because my wife is freaked out about the virus and instead of not opening the package for 3 days I used gloves. Not saying anything about Blackhawk.

Forgot to add when they make a model for pistols with a DG switch there should be enough room for it without modifying the holster or damaging the DG switch.

For those of you that have IG you can look me up at rfeder127 and I should have more pictures there in the next few days 

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I can’t tell how the retention mechanism actually works in all the pics and videos I’ve seen. You press the thumb thingy and it releases the hood forward (spring loaded?) and that also lifts a lever down lower that locks to the attached light (I see a spring down there too?). Do the light bearing holsters work with just the pistol in them (no light attached)? 

The light has to be attached to the pistol for it to work. 

For retention methods think Safariland SLS and ALS locking mechanisms. This is what Blackhawk has labeled a level 3 holster. The hood is spring loaded and you do not have to push it down and forward like you do with the Safariland SLS hood. 

The ALS on a Safariland holster is pushed back slightly to unlock. The ALS type function on the Blackhawk holster comes out towards the back of the holster.

Both are deactivated together at the same time by pushing a paddle in towards the holstered pistol. 

Hopefully this video will explain it better than I can. Not to many videos out there yet on this holster.

https://youtu.be/eBwX42nv_Fg

Got it, that makes more sense now. Looks like a lot of areas for sticks and stuff to get wedged it there around the release paddle (I get a lot of sticks and junk caught up in my gear on the regular). Probably not a huge issue for most guys that don’t break brush often. Not saying the alternatives are perfect...I got a VP9 locked up for a bit in a Safariland ALS once after being drug 20+ yards over gravel (I was basically drug on the holster, rocks became lodged around the gun wedging it in there (the ALS rerelease still functioned fine)) in a man down drill once, but never had any issues in the field with them. 

I could see foreign objects causing problems but as you said that could be problem for other available holsters as well. 

The biggest reasons why I looked into this holster are 1. They are supposed to be releasing an option for the STI pistols and there are not many other options for that pistol 2. Safariland has not been the best option lately as I’ve heard and experienced problems with sourcing them and quality has gone down. Options are good and I think this is another option for duty carry. 

As more of them get out there we will see the good, bad, and the ugly.

I like the bottom being open as it is - although there's less material to contain a white light "nd." At the start of March, I took a Sage Dynamics class and was one of maybe two left-handers. At least four times during the two days, I had spent brass from shooters to my left land in my holster and prevent me from securely re-holstering.

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Orange County, FL, S.O. has gone to these.  They had been using the Blackhawk Duty Serpa or whatever it was called that took their proprietary light.  Blackhawk got a lot of their input on the design and they have had a couple of prototype versions a while back.  So far, their folks like it.

What's interesting is that they issue the Glock 21.  I don't know if they're getting them all before they're a catalog item, but they haven't switched guns yet.  I haven't put hands on one yet, but I teach their recruits in the academy and they have been issued these for a couple of classes now.  I will be very interested to see what they do for the STI guns, as Safariland responded to my inquiry about non-Duo pistols by saying they're not planning on making them.

K.O.A.M. posted:

Orange County, FL, S.O. has gone to these.  They had been using the Blackhawk Duty Serpa or whatever it was called that took their proprietary light.  Blackhawk got a lot of their input on the design and they have had a couple of prototype versions a while back.  So far, their folks like it.

What's interesting is that they issue the Glock 21.  I don't know if they're getting them all before they're a catalog item, but they haven't switched guns yet.  I haven't put hands on one yet, but I teach their recruits in the academy and they have been issued these for a couple of classes now.  I will be very interested to see what they do for the STI guns, as Safariland responded to my inquiry about non-Duo pistols by saying they're not planning on making them.

You can certainly run a non-RDS pistol in, for example, a 6360RDS or 6390RDS from Safariland. I, for one, wish SL would update their catalog so that all the SKUs were light-bearing and RDS-capable since (with relatively few exceptions) the ALS or SLS+ALS holsters will retain the pistol with or without the light. 

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Is this going to be available for Glocks with mounted optics?

Probably far sooner than later. I've been checking the dark chicken web page for updates.

It is my understanding that they will be available for Glock and Sig 320 pistols with optics soon possibly end of May beginning of June. I have been focusing my attention on the STI version so my focus has been very narrow. I believe that you can get a version now, but with no light. I would want both light and optic personally 

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