I've had three inquiries about this from guys with hotmail accounts that won't take multiple pics, so I'm going to post it here. You guys that have seen this stuff before, please bear with me. Some hate it, some love it; OK damn-near everybody hates it, but I still think this ruck is a diamond in the rough if you have the capability to mod the damn thing. So let's get to the heart of the matter: the fucking plastic ladder rack. WTF!!! was Natick thinking? The plastic rack must die. Now you need another way to attach your shoulder harness. I used the old Gregory method, also know as the "miles of velcro plan" (I think that was BulletCatchr). This consists of a ballistic nylon (you know they actually used this in vests before kevlar) and velcro ladder rack, slotted every 1" for adjustment. To mate the harness, you make a new "diamond" from ballistic nylon (or hypolon) and velcro, with two web and velcro runners to weave into the new ladder rack. Alternate plan "B" consists of a Lowe-Alpine-style ladder rack of 1" webbing, spaced 1" apart, the forerunner to PALS webbing. When going this route, you need a 2" buckle anchored under the hip belt. The runners from the harness diamond are slick (no velcro) and weave through the rack, and finally through the buckle at the bottom. An altogether excellent system. While you have the rear sides apart, you have several options. You can move the stay tunnels internal, where they belong; you can remove the radio pocket and install camelbak hangers; you can remove the side pouches and make your own; or really get wild and add PALS webbing. When re-sewing the seams, use one row to close the layers, and two rows on the binding tape on top, for a minimum of three rows, "E" thread, 7-8 spi. You can also add a removable beaver tail, but as you can see, this mod is showing it's age. I would recommend putting PALS webbing around the whole ruck and then hang any damn thing you feel like on it.

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

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Here are the stay tunnel top flaps, 1" webbing with snaps. Also detachable belt set-up for those who might be interested.

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

I like that mod YES and once you do one you realize how much easier it would have been to build a pack from scratch.I sent the idea off to a buddy who built a whole new back panel and stitched it to the old bag with the plastic stripped off.Used the space in between(upon my urging not to sew it compoletely together. for a foam pad I imagine he could stuff a hydro bladder in there too.

BulletcatchR

"When this world becomes ours,what we are doing will be right"

I have a few of these, all broken at the same place. I had been thinking about a simpler version of this fix. I was going to use them for cannabilizing for straps and buckles. Not too keen on all of the velcro...it has a tendency to wear out or grab everything.
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Sabre07:
Then consider the Lowe-Alpine ladder rack. You can see their basic design in any good mountaineering shop. I know a lot of you are thinking holy shit that's a lot of work, but if you already have one or can pick one up cheap, there is real potential here for a brother on a budget. Yeah, Bulletcatchr is right, it's probably easier to start from scratch, but this here situation is on a sliding scale of labor -vs- cost. Here's what the deal looks like from scratch.

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

I went to Lowe Alpine's website. Didn't see a ladder rack. I am not sure what is...so I am not sure of what you are suggesting. To clarify my post, I have several of these CFP90's all broken at the strap connector. I had a simpler fix in mind, yours seems to be pretty adjustable, I am not too keen on velcro as the primary anchor.

Kudos on bringing a dead piece of gear back to life...

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Add a piece of 1 or 2" webbing to the tail(the part that hangs down)of the velcro that gets threaded thru the ladder.Thread that web all the way down and secure it somewhere under the belt attachment.That will make the attachment bomb-proof.Velcro stops the straps from shifting around(which is what happens if you do the "ladder" with just web and no velcro)and the web carries the brunt of dynamic loads.

BVulletcatchR

"When this world becomes ours,what we are doing will be right"

OK, let me esplain. The velcro is attached with spray adhesive, then stitched to a layer of ballistic nylon. That's the stuff nylon holsters used to be made of, about twice the strength of 1000 denier cordura. The only thing the ladder rack does is hold the center of the shoulder harness in place. It carries very little of the actual load. The two upper load adjustment or "stabilizer" straps are anchored at the top of the aluminum stays, where the weight is absorbed. They are called stabilizer straps because they don't really take all the load, they merely keep it close to your back. The hip belt in a properly adjusted internal frame ruck bears the brunt of the load. That is the whole idea, to transfer all the weight traditionally carried on your shoulders, to your waist and closer to your CG. This is a common misconception, due to guys humping ALICE rucks where indeed, all the weight hung down from the shoulder straps. Although you can loosen the hip belt and take more of the load on the shoulders to rest sore hips, the majority of the time you will loosen the top straps and tighten the hipbelt SNUG to handle most of the load on your hips. This is why seperate patrol belts don't work with internals, and why chest rigs are so popular with them. Remember all those pics in the 70's and 80's of SAS/ SBS with huge Bergens and chest rigs? Anyway, the alternative is the Lowe ladder rack, which is nothing more than rows of webbing sewn onto the back of the ruck that webbing is weaved through to hold the shoulder harness on with. It then goes down behind the lumbar pad and anchors to a buckle. Easier to see than to describe I suppose.

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Murphquake:
Yeah, that wuz my idea of what the CFP-90 shoulda been. As far as the Force ruck, I did a prototype design for the SOE "2 Bravo" which is a very similar design, made to work with the ALICE frame. It is also similar to the ALICE mods you see, except the sleeping bag compartment was moved internal and 6" added to the TOP of the bag. This way the bag is roughly even with the bottom of the frame and doesn't bounce off your ass.

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

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