Colt 901 out of production, RFI for options

Verified as so with Phoenix Distributors and also Colt.

We had been interested in buying a couple of 901's for our Marksmen/Observers.

Looking for suggestions for other options.

To be clear, these will be agency owned weapons.

Thanks

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What a shame.  Although I couldnt own one here, I did get a chance to shoot one for a day.  What a great rifle .  Accurate and ran like a champ.  I never cared about the 5.56 conversion kit but I would own one in a minute if I could 

LMT, KAC and LT would be my choices.

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Any idea why? I have recently seen very glowing writeups of it, that included Colt people very happy to help spread the word on how cool and innovative they are. 

I mean, aside from "Colt always kills all their good ideas"?

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SFF,

I am very sorry to hear that.  The Colt 901 I had some experience with was a very solid and reliable rifle.

I am sure Knight’s and LaRue would be fine choices, but I will limit my comments to brands I have personal experience with.

I would suggest LMT based on my experience with the three rifles I have used since 2011.  I have not had a single problem with any of them.  Also, LMT’s .308 rifles have been refined since their original release and can now be had with MLOK handguards, fully ambidextrous controls, lightweight barrels, etc.  It has also reportedly been used rather extensively in combat in the DMR role by Great Britain with good results.

Please let us know what you decide on.

Tony

 

I recall there were some good reports a while ago about the DPMS GII rifles.

Someone here on LF was using them for a bit with acceptable results.

Edit: I found one of the threads:https://www.lightfighter.net/topic/dpms-genii-rifles 

Regards.

Mark

Formerly known as ML

How many weapons are you guys thinking of buying?

LMT is dependable as the day is long, but a little heavy.  Knight puts out a very good (albeit expensive) weapon.  Until Armalite starts taking their ADD meds I'd hold off on them.  Larue runs hot and cold.

Have you considered JP for a turn-key off-the-shelf option?

Yeah.  That didn't take long.

The next thing you know, they will discontinue the Python...

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Sinister posted:

How many weapons are you guys thinking of buying?

LMT is dependable as the day is long, but a little heavy.  Knight puts out a very good (albeit expensive) weapon.  Until Armalite starts taking their ADD meds I'd hold off on them.  Larue runs hot and cold.

Have you considered JP for a turn-key off-the-shelf option?

Hate to say it but I have limited choice here: what are the Remington .308 semi like?

No direct idea, but I know a number of people who are incredible JP fans. Like, have several of their guns, bought the hat to wear it. 

So, it's a good sign, and means you don't have to worry about parts availability if Remington decides to get out of that line of work. 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

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Just so you know, Remington 308 = DPMS.  Big meh......

just an FYI, Daniel Defense is offering a $400 visa gift card rebate on all versions of the DD5. I don’t have any personal experience with these, but typically DD is gtg, I haven’t really seen anything negative about them. 

shoobe01 posted:

No direct idea, but I know a number of people who are incredible JP fans. Like, have several of their guns, bought the hat to wear it. 

So, it's a good sign, and means you don't have to worry about parts availability if Remington decides to get out of that line of work. 

Ha!  Rem parts are just as difficult as LMT to get here.

But, LMT = 8k, Rem = 3.5k

I’ll give another nod to JP. I consider their big platform guns to be in a whole nother class.  

They remind me of the AI class gun as far as semis go.  

I dont know if this brings in some strange deparment issues, but i would also consider 6.5 creedmoor over 308.  

Lighter ammo, easier follow up shots, and very well suited to 2 legged critter problems.  

That said, the 308 is easier to source ammo and has a long tradition.  Also, you have to tune a 6.5 to run well in a gas gun, but this is a problem JP has long since solved.  

I have extensively shot the LMT, Larue, DPMS, Armalite, GAP, and KAC guns.   The JP was a bit better.  

I don’t have modern experience with the GAP - mine was built on an armalite setup back in the day.  The larues seemed to get worse for a time and are now better.   They didn’t really know how to make good barrels for a bit.

Out of curiosity, did the Colt being out of production mean the older models of the 901? As it appears that Colt has an updated version on their website: https://www.colt.com/detail-pa...-308win-161-20rd-blk

Same MSRP as an LMT MWS Defender, so not sure if it's a good buy at that price, but certainly interesting (though them sticking with 1/12 seems to be less than optimal in a 16" barrel).

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

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Since you brought up the LMTs, and if anyone wants to lament something, I didn't post this the other week because by the time I found out, 6 hours after they went for sale, poof, all sold out. 

This lovely thing: 

Contract over-run. https://lmtdefense.com/uncateg...th-american-lm308mws

$2,399.00 $1,799.00

 

That might have been a problem with my budget if I had seen it in time. They sure are nice, high up on my list if I was to get a .308 AR. 

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The advantage of 7.62X51 over 6.5 Creedmore in the AR platform is when you go down to a 16" barrel but 1:12" is way too slow of a twist rate.  IMO 16" guns with a dedicated can are more practical for LE purposes than 20" guns.

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