I finally cracked the code on how to mount Molly pouches to my Volund Micro Battlebelt by using Velcro Onewrap. A post by Shoobe doing something similar reminded me that I took pics of this last month when I had to replace the WtFix straps I had been previously been using on duty for the past 2 years or so. The WtFix straps worked pretty good but I could never get them quite tight enough on the smaller Molly straps on my belt, they left my mag pouches hanging outboard a bit and they were never quite as stable on the belt as I would have liked. They did work fine though for a couple years on my duty belt and on my training belt, both of which I’ve put through quite a bit of rough use. The only failure I had was a dump pouch being nearly torn off after a “man down” drill where I was drug across a dirt and rock field for 15-20 yards...a month or so ago one of the WtFix straps tore on one of my mag pouches before starting work and I was able to fix it enough to be serviceable for a while but I had the idea to try to replace it with Onewrap...this is the final outcome of that experiment.

The pouches are Esstac, the belt is from Volund. I started like this...

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Another view, the way the Onewrap is faced is important...

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This is the next step (slightly out of order).

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How I got to the previous pic...

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Do the same thing on the top then feed the Onewrap back down behind everything and out the bottom, for this belt that puts the loop onto the hook of the belt and I still get hook to attach to my inner belt.

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The initial tab I started with on the bottom got tucked back up into the belt and perfectly sandwiched in between two other layers of Onewrap that locked it in.

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How the finished product looks...

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This is a better shot to show how the Onewrap really locks the pouch to the belt.

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To mount a 3 row tall pouch I started with about a foot of Onewrap. Needle nose pliers were necessary to help get everything fed through and tucked into place. It tears the end of the Onewrap up a bit but I just snipped the ends off to clean it up. If you’re not sure about how much you may need I’d err on the longer side, it can always be  trimmed later...

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After mounting the pouches on my duty belt (same setup as above) a month ago I haven’t seen anything loosen up at all and the pouches are very stable now.

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Very innovative.   A huge improvement over MALICE clips and so forth.  Be interesting in seeing how it holds up with daily use.  

Personally I'm trying to move away from molle as much as possible, but there is still much of it out there, so this is a valid solution.  

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Did a walk with it last night for a few miles. Worked great even under load. Only worry I really have is if it soaks up water or anything like that. 

Trying to see if I can find the thin stuff as some of it is for outdoor use so presumably doesn't get soaked so easily, to avoid degradation. 

Did find two Natick snaps that are now the only annoying part so I think I'll be replacing them with something. Maybe onewrap to try it, but sewn to the stub of the Natick strap? Hmm... 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

That's really cool, I like how it especially eliminates the issue of wobble/play. As far as one-wrap to be applied to PALS/MOLLE onto PALS/MOLLE it was FirstSpear who had their 6/9 system. But in that case the velcro portion seemed really short and was meant to overlap one another. I never bought that system, but it seemed neat when I first saw it.

Your method seems very practical and a hell of a lot more secure than rigid mounts. The main problem with the latter I found is the loops typically were oversized (understandably to accommodate different belt thicknesses), but it made reloads and re-indexing difficult sometimes. Not only that, but one-wrap is cheaper and easier to find.

Joined: 4 April 2005                Location: South Bay Armpit

I have / have-had some of the FS stuff and while it seems to hold in practice, it doesn't ever feel super confidence inspiring. 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

Yeah I've heard that too.  It just looks too flimsy to hold up.  But that's just my visual perception, not a fact.  

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

Much as with the OP, I didn't thread by pushing, I just use needlenose and pull through. Think of Velcro as having very high static friction but very low dynamic friction. If you stick the pliers through the strap, grab the strap end, and tug straight through till tight it never grabs. When you stop, it does grab on. 

Just realized there's no link so just duping the bit about how I threaded mine here: 

Somehow, had a random flash of smartness while messing around the shop with my new rig the other week, and did this with some scrap onewrap to replace some MALICE clips: 

Weave the center as usual, hook side to the body. Continue straight through the pouch side to the end, come up through the slot, wrap back around and tuck back under itself. Velcro hook functions to grab itself at the ends, but also grabs the pouch webbing a bit along the whole length. 

Works brilliantly. I would tend to suggest the 3/4" (as at left above) instead of the 1" I mostly used, but it works great either way. At least for the BFG platform laser cut setup. I would sorta like to find the super-thin plant-tie style onewrap, in strips, to cut weight and bulk, and reduce the amount of fabric to soak up water even more. 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

Diz, I have a number of the First Spear 6-12 pouches on my Strandhögg...they are super stable and have held up to years of use. So far this method has been solid for pistol mags with no loosening even though they get quite a bit of force put on them on multiple planes while sitting in my unit and getting in and out of the vehicle. This method will be getting tested 5 days a week until it fails...I’ve found that belt mounted attachments get a lot more stress applied than PC mounted stuff so it it holds up there I think it’s GTG for anything. 

Longeye, I’m with Shoobe this stuff slips past it’s self pretty easy when threading it though (I didn’t have far to pull mine though). It seems like a shim wouldn’t be necessary like it is with regular Velcro unless you have really long sections to pass. 

Shoobe, it seems like this ideas was just floating out there waiting for someone to try it? Weird how we both came to it at about the same time for the same purpose with just a little variation on our method. 

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