So I’m in the market for a new day pack for hiking. I’ve been eyeing hard the Berghaus Centurio II FA MMPS because it’s front opening, has great organization and allows the addition of side pockets ( the famous ‘Brit rocket pack ). Great lashing points for snowshoes. 
Problem is that it’s designed to be worn with webbing, as it rides a bit higher on the back to allow it to sit on the webbing and has only a thin piece of nylon for a waistbelt. 
My concern is that weight will not be transferred very well onto my hips with such a minimal belt. As I’m hiking civvie style I will not be wearing webbing. 
I’ve emailed Bergaus and another outfit in the hopes that they have some type of add on accessory or other suggestion but I’m thinking that if I’m really being honest I’m trying to talk myself into something that’s not meant to be. 
I’m looking at the Karrimor SF Sabre 45 as the alternative. Similar features with an appropriate waist belt. What say you LF? Diz?

 

 

 

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I would look hard at the qore icevents padding, adds lightweight support ot belts, shoulder straps, etc.

https://www.qoreperformance.com/collections/icevents

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Interesting. I’ve been eyeing these guys for summer 2020 bike patrol. I’m going to try the curved Iceplate. 
So you think sliding  a pair of these over the existing strap would turn it into a proper waist belt? Load transfer-wise?

 

 

 

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Just finished an online chat with them. Very informative. So these slid on over and then secure vertically with Velcro. Tempting. 

 

 

 

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The belt for the Berghaus is wider than I realized;  looks more like 2” wide, so that’s a lot better than initially thought but it’s still just a length of bare webbing. 

 

 

 

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Very happy with a mystery ranch 2dap I picked up a while back.   3dap was a bit too big to carry on a plan and I never carried enough gear on a ay hike to fill it.  

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I received for a reply from a UK kit vendor ( seems GTG “Kit Monster” ) he confirmed my concerns and reinforced the build concept behind this pack, plus added that the pack rides high enough that the waist belt would end up around the chest. 
He also recommends the Karrimor SF Sabre 30/45. 
I’ve had my eye on MR for a long time but they’re just too much $ ( at least brand new....I keep my eyes open for a good used deal ) for the amount of mileage I’ll actually be using it for. 

 

 

 

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In the past few years outfitting Scouts looking for similar sized packs, I have had good luck with Sierra Trading Post, Osprey direct as well as REI and  Moosejaw.  

Kelty at 99 usd. 50 L in drk blue

https://www.sierra.com/kelty-r...String=s~backpack%2F

Kelty at 89 usd. 44 L in a coyote brown or blk

https://www.sierra.com/kelty-r...String=s~backpack%2F

Osprey at 126usd. 45 l in blk/grey

osprey is guaranteed for life with no issues. They fix or replace.

https://www.osprey.com/us/en/p...-SCORPION45_550.html

Guys thanks much for the info. I found a good deal on a MR Scapegoat 35 in Multicam and pulled the trigger. Very stoked. I might still pick up the Berghaus as my daily EDC replacement; home to work and back. 

 

 

 

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Scapegoat came in the mail yesterday....wow. Incredible pack. Very light but still feels bombproof. Love the heavy duty oversized YKK zippers. Added 2 small forager pockets for the hip belt. I’ll be probably hitting the ADK mountains next week for its first outing. 

 

 

 

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Went up Rooster Comb MTN today. Had a pretty decent amount of weight in the pack....wow. Very impressed with the load transfer to my hips. Shoulders felt nothing after 3.5hrs of hiking. 

 

 

 

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If you ever turn back towards the Karrimor, that is a good bag for your intended use.

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Thanks! I’ve read nothing but great reviews on the Karrimor SF series. 

 

 

 

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