DeFoor ProFormance 1 Day Private Course - Scoped Carbine

March 30, 2020 - Private Range

This course came about as a result of the Covid 19 closures and Kyle needing to fill time where his cancelled contracts were.  The offer was $300 per day per shooter, topic of shooters choice. A buddy worked out the logistics and off we went. The whole thing took about 36 hours from announcement of availability to booked and paid. 

Course started off with a quick assessment of hardware and skill. 

Kyle explained his preference for a 100 yard zero on a LPVO carbine, which both of us had already been using so there was a quick zero verification and off to the races. 

The facility allowed us to shoot out to 300. We worked on isolating various fundamentals like natural point of aim, sight picture and trigger. We did some positional work as well at varying distances which is always a good refresher. Mechanical off set, target area transitions and cadence drills were hammered home to end the day. 

It wasn’t an earth shattering course for me but there were a lot of little nuggets.

Throughout the evolutions Kyle was giving us some corrective instructions. The 2 to 1 ratio was awesome for that.  He also shot most of the drills with us which is neat. It gets you to feel how his cadence runs while you’re shooting. 

Round count:  302

What I did learn is that I really want to increase from a 1-4 to a 1-6 LPVO and also away from a BDC style reticle to something with better subtensions for accuracy at distance. 

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Hey, that sounds really cool.

 

Would you care to expand on:

"...want to increase from a 1-4 to a 1-6 LPVO and also away from a BDC style reticle to something with better subtensions for accuracy at distance. "

Reason for the increase in magnification?  Better definition/recognition of target or do you think the 4x was limiting you in shot placement?

Ideas on recticles?

 

Thanks!

stray round posted:

Hey, that sounds really cool.

 

Would you care to expand on:

"...want to increase from a 1-4 to a 1-6 LPVO and also away from a BDC style reticle to something with better subtensions for accuracy at distance. "

Reason for the increase in magnification?  Better definition/recognition of target or do you think the 4x was limiting you in shot placement?

Ideas on recticles?

 

Thanks!

Reticle first. BDC has a lot of guess work and inconsistency built in. It might be ok for e type or b/c zone plates but for smaller targets I was guessing a lot. I mean, it was nice to sit there and play with it and figure out too low, too high and close enough there’s a lot of slop there. Something with more subtensions would suit precision as distance better obviously. 

On the magnification thing, yeah just being able to see smaller targets at distance is worth it. I also shoot 2 gun and 4x at 475 gets the job done but 2x more would be a lot easier. 

If I were on the east coast I would most certainly sign up for some of these classes with him. 

scoped carbine has been on my wish list for awhile.

What scope were you using? Do you think think you’d jump up to something like the new Vortex 1-10? Or Kahles 1-8? 

I am using a Steiner P4xi.  Good scope.  Kyle was running the Razor 1-10.  It's nice for sure but I think that magnification is a little much.  It think the course could really be titles recce carbine.  I take more of a general fighting gun approach so 10x on a FFP scope isn't super ideal for that.  I also don't care much for the reticle in the 1-10 (based off my use).  I am not super in love with the illumination on the Kahles.  I really like a red dot-like brightness.  

I am shopping for Razor HD II-E 1-6s for each of my guns.  Saw one pop up in good used condition.  I might have to help a brother out in these trying times.

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Huh, my understanding was that the Kahles were daylight bright. 

I had to sell my Razor recently which sucked, because if you can handle the weight penalty they're great. And I imagine that second hand prices will go down now that they've introduced the 1-10

senorlechero posted:

Huh, my understanding was that the Kahles were daylight bright. 

I had to sell my Razor recently which sucked, because if you can handle the weight penalty they're great. And I imagine that second hand prices will go down now that they've introduced the 1-10

The one reticle that interests me has two dots and the brightness is split between them so it’s more matte red. 

That class sounds so cool, and what a screaming deal.  I know Dan Brokos has or had an LPVO class, but I don't know if it was like this one.  I have a Primary Arms Platinum 1-8X ACSS scope I'd like to run in a class, and this one sounds like it was the ticket.

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