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Longeye posted:

Beautiful. Now I can use this as leverage to get our 20 year old Bushmaster carbines with carbine gas and commercial reciever extensions  replaced.

"The Bushmaster AR company went out of business, so warranty support and parts are going to be hard to get soon. Let's sell them while we still can and buy BCM 11.5" carbines." -Me, probably soon.

"Never let a crisis go to waste!"

-you, probably right now 

Remington Outdoor Company informed RSR at the SHOT Show that they will be focusing on their core hunting and shooting brands – AAC, Barnes, Marlin and Remington. Bushmaster, DPMS, StormLake Barrels and Tapco will no longer be produced, with the exception of the Bushmaster BA50.

Answer: Fudd stuff, and presumably still government contracts. Might just be the plummeting costs with everyone making an MSR, but doesn't mean we don't all wish everyone would stop acquiring companies... to shut them down later. Also see: FLIR. 

I cannot explain the .50 unless they got a contract for that one from someone also. 

Does Remington still have the R 15 and R 25 line? If so maybe they are going to push the R line over the DPMS and Bushmaster lines.

 I know in 2015 when I was at the factory they were just finishing up an order for the Phillipine military.  We were told it was the first time the PI had gotten weapons that were new and not surplus. ( I can believe that after being stationed there for 3 years and seeing what they had then).

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MAC08 posted:

Does Remington still have the R 15 and R 25 line? If so maybe they are going to push the R line over the DPMS and Bushmaster lines.

Iknow in 2015 when I was at the factory they were just finishing up an order for the Phillipine military.  We were told it was the first time the PI had gotten weapons that were new and not surplus. ( I can believe that after being sttioned there for 3 years and seeing what they had then).

You may be on to something. While all the discontinued lines were first "announced" by removing their websites, and largely blanking their product line from the Rem corporate site: 

https://www.remington.com/rifl...-sporting/model-r-15

The he R15 is still there. And there's a whole, VERY hunting oriented, MSR page with several models: 

https://www.remington.com/rifles/modern-sporting

Pricey ones. 

Ah, didn't know Rem. was the mothership.

Does the concentrating on their "core" mean they will stop marketing clothes and the assorted China stuff?   When a gun company markets everything from  toasters, cereal,  and dog squeaky toys under their label it might be a  clue that their core may have dropped out their sphincter. 

If any firearms co. really wanted to focus on their core they should first increase their QC instead of pushing it off on the consumer.

 

I didn't know there were issues in particular with Storm Lake, but the other brands are not known for their quality reputation.  About the only thing good from Tapco are their AK trigger sets and the AK hammer and trigger pin retainer plate that replaces the wire shepherd's crook.  I'll probably buy a couple of the plates before they are gone from the store.  Though I have no doubts someone else will pick up the slack.

Bushmaster is pretty much poison.  They've got a big bullseye on their backs because Bushmaster rifles were used in a number of "mass" shootings.  So I expect part of the decision is damage control.  If you want Bushmaster clone, Wyndham Weaponry started up making the same guns, with the same quality, in the same location, after Remington purchased the name and started making them in NY.  Bushmaster and DPMS have also been facing competition from companies making better guns at lower prices.  Tough to stay in business.

My bottom line conclusion?  Remington leadership decided that the political winds are blowing the wrong way and they are better served by  distancing themselves.  You could defend their decision as not taking a political stance, just an economical one.  However, I'm not going to defend them.  They need to get their house in order on their core guns that have had quality control problems for awhile.

Apparently, Storm Lake was good but before had been declining in quality and CS. At least that's some forum impressions, no personal experience, no stats to back it.

Seems plausible if Big Green had already started to pre-hate them, cut budgets, and maybe some off the smart folks saw this coming and left early with no replacements. I have been through some mergers, etc. 

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