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I may be wrong on the railed 43x and 48.  After a lot of scrounging, I found one picture that showed the underside of the dust cover.

You can see a cruciform shape on the bottom.  The slot going across the bottom is obviously the locking slot for your light.  The longitudinal slot would correspond to the serial number plate.  The cross slot "crosses" the serial number plate.  I made a probably incorrect assumption based on my knowledge of Glocks I'd seen in Austria, that didn't have a serial number plate in that location.  It would appear that they have just enough material added to the frame to create the rail with depth enough to accommodate the light rail and the serial number plate.

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Hmm.  I went to an auction house and gunstore in Vienna  three years ago and looked at several Glocks without serial numbers on the frames.  It may take a couple of days, but I'll try and verify with friends in Austria 

Much older guns? Gen 1 and maybe early Gen2?

Every gun I've dealt with at the factory, and all our guns that we get come from Austria or Slovakia and have comd with numbrrs on the frame.

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Much older guns? Gen 1 and maybe early Gen2?

Every gun I've dealt with at the factory, and all our guns that we get come from Austria or Slovakia and have comd with numbrrs on the frame.

If the gun is made for export to the US and other countries that require serial numbers on the frame, they would obviously need a serial number.  The ones I saw were for domestic sale in Austria, not export.

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If the gun is made for export to the US and other countries that require serial numbers on the frame, they would obviously need a serial number.  The ones I saw were for domestic sale in Austria, not export.

The guns I've dealt with at the factory where not all export guns, a fair amount never leave the factory nevermind the country. I've handled guns in gunshops there as well as guns belonging to people there. All had numbers on the frames. 

Hence why I ask the age of the guns you dealt with, very early guns didn't necessarily have, but for the last few decades they have.

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The guns I've dealt with at the factory where not all export guns, a fair amount never leave the factory nevermind the country. I've handled guns in gunshops there as well as guns belonging to people there. All had numbers on the frames. 

Hence why I ask the age of the guns you dealt with, very early guns didn't necessarily have, but for the last few decades they have.

Thanks, good points.  I have no idea of the age.  I don't even remember what gen they were.  I was just amazed about no serial numbers on the frames.  Same friends I was with visited another acquaintance in southern Austria a couple days later.  They purchased MG53 (the Yugo version of the MG42), complete except for the barrel, no paperwork necessary.  There, the barrel was what mattered.  No big deal on the other parts, they weren't the "gun".  The barrel was.  Anyway, that has nothing to do with the G43x or 48 railed versions, so I won't sidetrack any further.  Again, I apologize to everyone for the bad info on why we didn't get the railed versions here.

https://www.lightfighter.net/t...1#117009197310340831

following.   I have been exploring an update to my smallish carry gun and have narrowed it down to the glock 43-43x-48 or p365/365xl.    So far I like the capacity of the 365 but it feels small in my hands.   The glock has a slight edge on feel.   He mentions an interesting point at the end of the video about an 8 (or more) round mag for the 43 from shield arms.   If they came up with a 43 mag that was flush fit and stacked 8-10 rounds in a 43 that would be very interesting.  

Europeans are obsessed with pressure vessels and tend to regulate the parts of the system that contain pressure more so than other parts. That makes sense if your regulations date from the era of questionable steel, but makes less sense when ammunition is cheap enough to burn out barrels and break bolts. 

But that’s why you see serials and proof markings on Euro barrels and slides instead of just frames. 

Bear with me.

My wife (God bless her) thought she'd buy me a new handgun for Fathers' Day.  I'd been talking G48 for a while as my next gun.  She consulted friends (including my BiL in the US).  They convinced her to go with a G 19x.  She paid for it but cannot actually buy as she doesn't have a license.  I have the option to change the choice.  I respect the advice of friends but each has a condition attached: friend 1 (American) - virtually impossible to get an American to go with a smaller capacity mag.  Your brains just have a hard time wrapping around the fact  that any body in his right mind would actually pick a smaller capacity.  Friend 2 (Cdn) - 1911 fanboy.  Hates Glocks.  Friend 3 (Cdn) - tried G48, found its small grip wiggled in his hand.

My thought process:

I am of the opinion that the G48 was almost purpose built to meet our stupid laws: barrel over 106mm (4.2 ins) and a mag designed to hold only 10 rds (our legal limit).  My desire is to have the slimmest, shortest gun possible in Canada.  The G48, with its slimmer mag etc meets that need.  The G19 is same length (more or less) but is wider in slide, frame, grip and mag).  If we're legally stuck using 10 rd mags, why carry the extra bulk associated with a higher capacity?  These are insane Canadian conditions that fly in the face of US  common sense.  
 
"But Lib," I hear you say, "you can't carry in Canada so....what's the point?"  I am of the belief that if, sometime in the future, things get bad and rules go out the window ... you have to go with what you have.   As we learned from the LA riots, the moment people are tossing cinderblocks through the windows of your business is the wrong time to decide to buy some more ammo.
 
For the record, I don't own a Glock (but my S&W SD 9  is very close to a G19) and I've only ever shot a G17.  Not a big fan of the ergos (more a 1911 fan).  I'm only going with Glock for the slim, short-ish 9mm.  I suppose if given a choice between it and a 9mm 1911 Commander, I might go for the latter (although I've heard things about its reliability here and I'm committed to this gun store which doesn't carry them).  I've even toyed going .380 (Browning Black Label 1911.  The only .380 we're allowed to own up here) which is even smaller than G48.  That said, is the 9mm vs .380 tradeoff worth it? 2 less rds I believe as well.
 
Ideally, I'd like the chance to shoot all of them first but...that can't happen up here.
 
Quick thoughts?

The typical internet retailers claim to have them, but limited inventory. Just two examples FWIW: 

 

Others allow you to order (like lone wolf) but I'd call first if they don't offer inventory on the website, as they could be lying. 

Shipping will probably kill you for one tiny part, but it is what it is now. I have to believe they'll make more sometime

I've got 2 Glock 48's as regular carry guns now, one with 1500 rnds through it and another with about 1000... Other than the model 49 j frame in my pocket they are  my only go to carry guns anymore....with the shield mags they do everything I used to do with a Glock 19.... Bigger guns ( duty sized) I'm pretty big on the LTT Beretta train.... No reason not to pick a Glock 48 in my mind.... Also on my short list of things to take with me if I happen to catch orders back to CA for some reason.....

 

 

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I've got 2 Glock 48's as regular carry guns now, one with 1500 rnds through it and another with about 1000... Other than the model 49 j frame in my pocket they are  my only go to carry guns anymore....with the shield mags they do everything I used to do with a Glock 19.... Bigger guns ( duty sized) I'm pretty big on the LTT Beretta train.... No reason not to pick a Glock 48 in my mind.... Also on my short list of things to take with me if I happen to catch orders back to CA for some reason.....

 

 

How are the Shield mags working?

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Well I pulled the trigger (pun intended) on the G48.  Brought it home today.

He's at home  with some of his new friends.  (Missing from pic are Webley .455, CZ 75, P38. Too lazy to open other safe.)

I took the new G 48 out to the range and put about 150 rds through it compared with the S&W SD9.  The Glock was superior in every way. Slightly lighter, crisper breaking trigger.  Shorter, crisper reset.  The Smith is fine and I appreciate it being half the price, Glock is just better.  And I really notice the slimness of it and it feels much more comfortable for me.  Of course, this is all old news to you guys.  Probably will sell the Smith now.

I have a brief and limited range report for the Shield 15 round mag for G43x/48.  I received two mags recently and took them out to the range yesterday.  They appeared to be well made, no apparent building or design flaws.   Mags are made from blued steel with a red follower.  They reminded me of Mec-Gar mags. 

Weather was bright and sunny, no rain were we where. Mag #1:  15 rounds, no problems and slide locked back on empty.  Mag#2:  loaded with 15 rounds,  slide failed to lock back on empty.  No other issues.  (Note: my buddy was shooting this time as he wanted to try the G43x).   I then performed various shooting drills with both mags, each time loaded to five rounds, no problems and locked back slide each time. Shot about 150 additional rounds total, no failures to lock back or any other problems.

A limited report of about 180 rounds.  Will not be carrying these yet, but just wanted to pass the info along.   I think I would like to get about 500 or so trouble free rounds downrange before I make a decision to carry or not.  If anyone thinks that number should be higher, let me know. I did not change out the mag release on my G43x as I have not been able to find a suitable release not made from plastic.  Plus, as mentioned, not sure I am switching over to these yet.

Yours,

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I have a brief and limited range report for the Shield 15 round mag for G43x/48.  I received two mags recently and took them out to the range yesterday.  They appeared to be well made, no apparent building or design flaws.   Mags are made from blued steel with a red follower.  They reminded me of Mec-Gar mags. 

Weather was bright and sunny, no rain were we where. Mag #1:  15 rounds, no problems and slide locked back on empty.  Mag#2:  loaded with 15 rounds,  slide failed to lock back on empty.  No other issues.  (Note: my buddy was shooting this time as he wanted to try the G43x).   I then performed various shooting drills with both mags, each time loaded to five rounds, no problems and locked back slide each time. Shot about 150 additional rounds total, no failures to lock back or any other problems.

A limited report of about 180 rounds.  Will not be carrying these yet, but just wanted to pass the info along.   I think I would like to get about 500 or so trouble free rounds downrange before I make a decision to carry or not.  If anyone thinks that number should be higher, let me know. I did not change out the mag release on my G43x as I have not been able to find a suitable release not made from plastic.  Plus, as mentioned, not sure I am switching over to these yet.

Yours,

I've got 5 of the S15 mags, bought a few weeks back.  Ran them in my G43X and a slightly older two-tone G43X, about 300-500 rounds and all ran well.  Two failures to lock back on empty mags, but realized that my thumb was riding the slide release.  I was a bit skeptical with 15 rounds and the mag spring having the power to push the rounds up, but so far so good.  I used three of the mag to do an extended dept. qual and they worked well for that.  Shield Arms recommends their mag release, one on order, but we'll see if that does anything for improvements.  Shield had good comms in case you need a replacement spring(s).  Just my experience thus far, hopefully they run well in the long term

 

 

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I AIWB a G43X and G19 in a TRex Nomad holster. I use the single ''tuckable" belt hook instead of the standard wider clip. It is comfortable, sits pretty low in the waistband, and draws easily. I'm almost always in jeans/shorts and an untucked t-shirt or flannel. 

Yeah, some people don't care for Lucas Botkin but the holster design is minimal and therefore works well for my needs. I am not a fan of kydex with 'wings',  or other AIWB platforms what make the footprint wider - I prefer less bulk. 

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