Glock 43 X

anyone else underwhelmed?

I enjoyed the light weight however the "shoot ability " of my G43 compared to my G26 left me unimpressed.

Perhaps the larger grip will help but I doubt they changed the trigger geometry enough if at all to compare to my G26

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Nice option in case of a 10 round mag limit.

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SNDT1319 posted:

.  I’ve wanted to see a full size “single”ish stack 9mm.  

One of the rumors is that it is just that along  with a smaller 26-ish version.

Whatever is released, with a new designed magazine coupled with other dimensional changes, it might pay to not be an early adopter.

 

 

The rumor also says that there is a G48 (what happened to G44, G46 and G47?) which includes the G43x 10rd mag, and a 4" barrel.  I guess we'll find out for sure, maybe, partially? on 1/3/2019.

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Too bad the Glock 45 wasn’t a commander sized .45 ACP with single stack magazine 😕

I like the thin profile of the G43 but have a hard time getting a good grip with the short frame, maybe this will be enough of a change to be a good compromise between the 43 & the 26

Here's the possible G48 (this is photoshop)

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Mmmmm....I could learn to like the longer slide version with a 10 rd mag. Plus 2 mags are bound to follow making it more compatible for EDC vs. the BUG role 

But PLEASE get rid of the serrated trigger!

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This is supposed to be the real deal Glock 48. 

https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33551&d=1545756604https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33553&d=1545756612

https://pistol-forum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=33552&d=1545756609

It is the length and height of a G19, width of a G43.  Damn good chance I'll be getting one of these, just because. 

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I've been hoping they would introduce a single stack gun the size of the G19 for years.

I have big hands and long fingers so it isn't an issue for ME, but when I was instructing in the police academy, every class we would have one or two shooters with REALLY small hands and a gun the configuration of a single stack G19 would have been a good option for those people.

I have a 19 and a 42 and a 43. I'm not sure if I'm interested in buying ANOTHER variety of Glock, but we'll see how all this develops

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I predict a bunch of used 19, 26, and 43s hitting the market.

That would check a lot of boxes for a desirable carry gun.  I like the extended slide as it would carry nicer IWB  than one with a frame length slide not to mention better sight radius than what I think the 43X will be.

I could get behind the 48.  I can’t shoot s 43, to save my skin. Same with the Shield. I shout my LC9 almost as well as my comped 19. 

The 48 could be my replacement for my LC9 as my go to Ca. gun. 

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We'll see if Glock spills all the beans when they make their announcement, or if we'll have to wait for SHOT to look at things, but I'm guessing the G43x is the crossover between the G43 and the G48, i.e. G43 slide and G48 frame.  Which is the only reason I can think of for not extending the dust cover enough to have a light rail.  About which some people will complain.  The same crowd that would bitch about a free blowjob.  If I'm right, I wouldn't be surprised to see another change to the Gen 5 line.  Right now, Glock is making Gen 5 frames to fit the G17/34, G19, G19x and G45.  The G45 and G48 leads me to believe that they will drop the exclusive G17/34 frame and lengthen the portion under the slide for the recoil spring on both the G17 and G34 slides.  It will simplify their production line and allow them to interchange the G17, G19 and G34 slide groups on either frame.  Similar to the M&P 2.0 lineup.  The dustcover length on the full size and compact frames are the same, just the grip length differs.

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I would make mention of no light rail and generally that makes it a non-starter for me, but my LC9 has no light rail and I get by just fine with my hand held ProTac HL-X. As for free blowjobs, from a bearded toothless hag, yeah, I might complain.  

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Well...this was pretty much the last thing I needed to happen before I completely shitcan .45ACP...that being a decent 10-round single stack 9mm that is compliant in unfriendly regions but not a hamstrung compact or pocket/bug that's hard to shoot well without extendo grips and what not like the 43 is for me now.

Screw it...I'm in.

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People have been asking for a single stack G19 since forever, I’ll pick up one for me and another for the old lady- I was about to get her a 43 too.

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The 43X makes sense, they are probably listening to feedback from shooters who hate the short grip on the 43, but love everything else about it.

Got a 43 a while back for the 6 actual,  to complement her G19.   It's a great little gun, surprisingly accurate and controllable for being so small, but she hates shooting it with the flush-fit mag.  The one with the extension makes all the difference in the world.

Got a PearceGrip +1 extension for the short mag, incidentally, runs great with it.

Sounds like the ten rnd 43X mags may not work in the 43.  If so, lame.

The 48, as others have said, is something I've heard folks clamoring for for years.   Surprised it took Glock so long to come out with it.

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G19 overall width is 1.26 inches, vs the G48 width of 1.10 inches. This doesn't sound like much of a difference, until you are sticking it in a belt.

A while back, I traded a Shield for a M&P9c, with the thinking that for just 0.2 inches wider, I could get almost double the rounds in a package that was otherwise the same size. It was amazing how much harder it is to carry the 9c than a single stack, plus the mags are more difficult to hide. I almost never carry it now, preferring a single stack 9 of about the same size. Plus, I can throw an extra mag in my pocket without looking like I'm happy to see someone. 

I consider myself a pretty average concealed carry person who carries regularly. I tend to default to comfort and easy. I say all this to give my prediction that if it is a skinny G19, one of their most popular carry guns now, that this will be the new BIG THING, especially if you live in a state with mag restrictions.

Someone over on ARFCOM reported that he got to shoot T&E versions of the 43X and the 48.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/Ha...309/?page=2#i2105499

He stated that the 43X is being correctly reported as slightly wider than the 43, and the magazines are not interchangeable as a result. The 48 is a long slide version of the 43X with about a 4” barrel. He said the dust cover on the frame does not extended to the front of the 48 slide, since it’s a 43X frame, I guess, so it looks sort of like a mini 34.

FWIW...

If the speculation is accurate (and the thing runs) Glock will have a grand slam home run with this pistol. Three years ago, I all but begged the National LE manager at Smith to do this to the Shield. I was looking at it from the perspective of an alternate duty weapon for officers with very small hands  (had a female member of the command staff who was marginal, at best, with her full size M&P,  but could damn near max the qual with her Shield. All due to hand size and fit) Added bonus would be sales in the aforementioned  ban states.

Glock may have gotten into their OODA loop as S&W did theirs with the Shield. I'm curious about it, but will let whatever it is play out a bit first. I've never been a Glock guy, and am pretty neutral/agnostic about the platform. I never carry and rarely shoot mine, though eight of the things live in my safe. That may change as I look for work in the industry, as I recently acquired both a 19X and 45. Those two guns are making me more open to the brand. 

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Welcome to my 10rd 9mm world. 

 Glock free thank Jesus but still 10rds.

Look at it this way.  If the G48 is a hit...HK will put out teasers for their single-stack at like...SHOT 2025!

LOL.  I bet.  And 2025 would be generous for Zee Germans.

I'll stick with my HK VP9SK as my 9mm Pez dispenser.

 

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CWM11B posted:

...alternate duty weapon for officers with very small hands  (had a female member of the command staff who was marginal, at best, with her full size M&P,  but could damn near max the qual with her Shield. All due to hand size and fit)...

I agree, having seen and experienced this several times with the Shield.  I hated the gun...until I shot one.  Now I own one.  Amazing how well most folks can shoot it regardless of what other guns they are used to or prefer.  I have not found the current 43 equally as shootable, however, so maybe this will "fix it."  The 42 I replaced with the 43 was even worse.

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 I was looking at it from the perspective of an alternate duty weapon for officers with very small hands  (had a female member of the command staff who was marginal, at best, with her full size M&P,  but could damn near max the qual with her Shield. All due to hand size and fit)

It will be interesting to see if this G48 concept gets applied to a slim G17  offering as a duty size weapon. 

With the presence of the G43    for a BUG or when you have to go small gun, offering a slim G17 and G48 makes more sense to me than offering the 43-X and 48.    On the other hand I'm sure market is in small  CCW's rather than the limited demand for slim duty size weapons with less capacity.

 

I never liked the G43 when there were better options (in my opinion) like the Shield.  The G43 grip is too small, and I don't have large hands.  The trigger was heavy compared to other Glocks, which I didn't necessarily think was a bad idea for something that a lot were going to drop in a pocket.  The grip was too short and my finger slipped off with a flush fit magazine.  That said, I thought it was a very trim piece and as small as Glock could make a 9mm.  It's slim enough that adding a little more girth and length for a 10rd mag will probably make it fit my hand better.  The G48 with the longer barrel and grip than a G43 won't be as concealable, but not by much.  Certainly not a pocket pistol.  More concealable than a G19.  There are lights and lasers that clamp around the trigger guard so they'll work for the G48 as well without compromising its concealability.  I don't think there will be a G17 length version.  That niche is a small one and 10rds seems like a magic number since leftist politicians don't have to remove their shoes to count that high.  Since that can be done in the G48 envelope, I don't think they'll go bigger.  At some point, an aftermarket supplier will offer a longer slide and barrel, and magazine extensions.  That will get you up to G17 length.  I haven't done the math, but a G43 slide with a compensator will probably bring it out to G17 length.  Add a small RDS and you can turn your G43x into a mini-Roland.

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treehopr posted:

Too bad the Glock 45 wasn’t a commander sized .45 ACP with single stack magazine 😕

I like the thin profile of the G43 but have a hard time getting a good grip with the short frame, maybe this will be enough of a change to be a good compromise between the 43 & the 26

Exactly, but I've been reminded by all the fan-boys we have the G36. Which is NOT a commander-size single stack.  

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A pic has come out.

Glock seems to have latched onto the new model.  Short-Short, Short-Long, Long-Long and potentially, Long-Short.  Something to please almost everyone.  I'm wondering if they will offer the last option, Long slide, Short frame, or if they will just dangle the idea, forcing the consumer to buy two guns so they can swap parts.  Of course, there will always be the inflated aftermarket.  If everything is interchangeable, and I think they are, enterprising people will buy up guns and then sell the slide groups and frames separately on Gunbroker.  The same will apply to the G19 and G17 once they resolve the dust cover issue (my opinion only, but that's what I think they will do).  I don't think Glock will offer slide/barrel groups for sale as accessories.

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Victory First (Matt Jacques) is making a G19 length slide and barrel for the G43 now:

 

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Dorsai posted:

A pic has come out.

Oh, I feel tingly...

Wonder if the standard offering will be two tone and if so, is that stainless steel or something like NP3?

I wish they'd chamfer the back of the slide like the front. 

I can see carrying one of those 48s.

 

M. Wilson posted:

Wow, looks just like my Kahr CW9...

But 2 more pew pew.IMG_20181228_200927

Kahr’s Are nice looking blasters. 

What’s the barrel length of the CW9?

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MOJONIXON posted:
M. Wilson posted:

Wow, looks just like my Kahr CW9...

But 2 more pew pew.IMG_20181228_200927

Kahr’s Are nice looking blasters. 

What’s the barrel length of the CW9?

Found it. 3.56”. 

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For all the "Shield shoots great, 43 sucks" people, I have the exact opposite experience, it's preference. Don't care for all these new models coming out, trying to drum up sales for a niche market used to be what aftermarket was for, seems like Glock is stretching itself and it's distributors selling it's product thin and I don't see that going over well for brick and mortar stores. This is basically a slimmerish g19 with less rounds and mag compatibility. Not impressed

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I have long wondered why the single stack never made it to plastic for S&W. Back when guns were all metal, they used to offer a single stack .45 and 10, but both single and double stack, small and large frame, 9/40 autos. 

Always seemed obvious they'd continue that, so were they dumb or was the market not there, so they build what their customers wanted? 

I like more choice, so hope this is successful enough everyone makes a single stack version of their existing gun, or whatever minor mods to make it work/make it narrower. 

 

Also: no light rail? I am surprisingly happy with the TLR-6. I see one of those coming out within minutes of the new Glocks being released. 

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rebbryan posted:
... Don't care for all these new models coming out....
This is basically a slimmerish g19 with less rounds and mag compatibility. Not impressed
 
Yeah, who would like something light to carry, comfortable to hold, and delivers performance...
Related image
 
 

"I have long wondered why the single stack never made it to plastic for S&W."

One of the problems was that the  S&W  3913,   Sig 225 and 239  were pretty much the same size as the G19  or Sig 228 and most people handled them in the store and went for larger capacity.   

I had a 3913 and have two 239s and actually are less bulky and more comfortable for me in a good holster.   The difference in dimensions might be slight and it may be my imagination and placebo effect.

I would like your post for some of the content, but don't want it held against me for the rest.

Forgot about the 239. That was also a nice sized gun. 

I assume the same as you: most don't carry, so why not get moar boolits when side by side at the gun store. But I feel the market is slowly changing and light/small is getting more mainstream. A big Shield or "39xx" M&P would be something I might have to buy. 

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Having only seen the pics, here are my thoughts and impressions.  Hopefully the guns aren't vaporware and we'll be able to handle them in 3 weeks.  All available evidence suggests to me that Glock has decided to go to a modular concept in the Gen 5 guns, which include the G43, G43x, G48, G17, G19, G19x, G34 and G45.  In the each of the categories, single stack and double stack, they have 2  frame sizes and 2 (or 3 in the double stack) slides.  They each have a short frame, 6rds (G43) and 15 (G19); and a long frame, 10rds (G43x, G48); 17rds (G17, G19x, G34, G45).  The key difference from earlier generations is the shorter dust cover on the frame and the extended recoil spring area on the longer slides.  I realize this is conjecture for the doublestack group of guns, but it is only a slight extrapolation from the smaller guns.  We'll see if I'm right.

If my design philosophy is right, it answers the question about the lack of an accessory rail on the G43x and G48.  I THINK, I don't know, that Glock decided keeping to the frame flexibility between sizes was more important than having two different 10rd frames.  Which is why I think the G45 frame is really the new G17, G34 frame  as well. 

The G43 doesn't fit my hand.  I don't like long frames and short slides/barrels, so the G43x doesn't appeal to me either.  But the G48 does, assuming it feels good.  And if it does, and I get one, I'll probably put a TLR6 on it from the get go.  I picked up a couple of the Olight mini-Valkyries when they were on sale and they sit on my M&P Compact and G19.  I've already gotten one holster for the M&P/light and I'm still shopping for a G19/light compatible one too.  They've finally gotten the output on the small lights up high enough you can have a light without increasing the footprint at all, for which I am VERY happy!

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I think Glock was feeling the squeeze not only from competitor's offerings like the Shield and 365 but also from the glut of LE trade-ins and used Glocks floating in the market.

These Jenny Craig Glocks solve the chunky criticism and reason not to buy  one of the  used Glocks on the shelf.

M. Wilson posted:

So super duper dumb question, is there a micro red dot that will fit on a 43?

The Shield RMS or RMSC maybe.  It might even fit on your CW9. 

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I thought this was interesting for the 43s, especially if you are only dipping your toe in an don't want to permanently  modify your blaster:  https://www (dot) youtube.com/watch?v=LmD-2prJOKQ


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Dorsai posted:

The rumor also says that there is a G48 (what happened to G44, G46 and G47?) which includes the G43x 10rd mag, and a 4" barrel.  I guess we'll find out for sure, maybe, partially? on 1/3/2019.

I don’t know what the 44 or 47 are, but the Glock 46 was a rotating barrel lock up model that was entered in to a German police pistol trial.   

https://www.recoilweb.com/bran...glock-46-129623.html

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Don't forget, the numbers are supposed to be their patent order, which is why the Glock22 isn't a .22 and the Glock45 isn't .45 caliber.  Their first gun was the Glock 17, so they had 16 patented items before that.  So while it is likely that the Glock 44 and 47 are guns, it isn't a given.  Let me caveat that by saying that they may be playing a little loose with their naming conventions.  The long slide Glock 17 was the 17L, but the long slide Glock 22 was the Glock 24, not 22L.  The 19x and 45 should be the same model with variations, but they aren't.

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MOJONIXON posted:
M. Wilson posted:

So super duper dumb question, is there a micro red dot that will fit on a 43?

The Shield RMS or RMSC maybe.  It might even fit on your CW9. 

Sweet.

I hope they've worked out the durability issues (it's a Jpoint sight).

Lucky me, the wife has a G43 with the Crimson Trace green laser/WML and now she's is "needing" the Sheild RMS on it as well...

So if I'm lucky, I may be able to get one for my EDC blaster next year sometime...

FML.

 

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Thanks! The 48 has an appeal to me. I'll let it percolate a bit as well as wait for a black slide. Glocks are fugly enough, that silver slide makes it more so.

Edit to add: I bet Sootch is really wishing he hadn't been hovering over that "send" button while drinking on new year's eve  

I'm sure heads are exploding in Smyrna right now, and it'll be a cold day in hell before Gaston's crew gives him inside info again!

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To explain why I'm interested (not that you guys would care about our gun tribulations up here).  That said, the challenges we face are similar to some of your leftist states...except we aren't allowed CCW. 

If, however, everything starts to go for shit and one consciously decides to break what was once a law in the interest of self defence or protecting his family; one will have to go with what he has and obtained legally when there was law and order in the land.  With that in mind one would want the closest possible to an ideal CCW.

We are limited to 10 rd mags and barrel must be 106 mm minimum (4.2 inches).  In the vid above he mentions barrel length as 4.17 inches.  Likely we'd get Cdn barrels as we do already on G19, G26 and my S&W SD 9 - all extending .25 inches beyond the slide.  

So, I want the shortest barrel legal and 10 rds in a slim, single stack.  I was covetous of Commander sized 1911s in 9mm, but they weren't physically available in my town  (I like to walk into a store and handle the product before I buy) and seem pricey.  The bulk of a double stack is pointless if legally limited to 10 rds..

Soooo G 48 looks real good to me.....

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I don't think Glock is doing it's customers any service by not making the 10 rounds mags compatible with the current model 43. 

I do however really like the 48 and think it should be an excellent alternate duty gun for coppers with really small hands or as an LE admin gun.

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Glock lists the G48 barrel length as 106mm, so the confusion involves conversion between metric and imperial, and rounding of the numbers behind the decimal point.  So the G48 will be legal in Canada without any barrel change.

With respect to the magazine compatibility, my lightbulb went off this morning.  Time will tell if it is 100w or just a fizzle, but I think within a year, Glock will announce a new G43 with a wider frame to accommodate the wider 10rd magazine, plus a flush fit 8rd magazine.  Since I'm now trying to channel their corporate decisions, they may or may not discontinue production of the slimmer 6rd gun.  I'll let you know when I make up their corporate mind.

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The reason the 43X and 48 mags aren't backward comparable is because the 43 is a true single stack to be as slim as possible, while the 43X /48 are staggered single stack, in order to compromise of still being thin but getting to that magical 10 rounds.  Because of that, there can't be a flush fit 8 rounder for the 43. 

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Dorsai posted:

  Since I'm now trying to channel their corporate decisions, they may or may not discontinue production of the slimmer 6rd gun.  I'll let you know when I make up their corporate mind.

Tell them to step up on the roughness of the grip texture.  Also if they are going to discontinue the 6 rnd 43 to do so at blowout prices because I need small...

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Raven just sent out an e-mail saying they have Perun, Vanguard, and, Morrigan holsters available for the 43X and 48. 

I see a 48 and Morrigan in my future.  

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Specs

https://us.glock.com/Products/g48_silver_slide

https://us.glock.com/Products/g43x_silver_slide

 

I don't think Glock is doing it's customers any service by not making the 10 rounds mags compatible with the current model 43. 

I do however really like the 48 and think it should be an excellent alternate duty gun for coppers with really small hands or as an LE admin gun.

We have a couple people who could benefit from this.

Too bad there's no accessory rail, though.  

Before you wish for a rail, consider what lights might fit on such a rail.  The 43x is supposed to be a cross-over between the 43 and 48.  The short slide is flush with the end of the dust cover.  If you make it flush with the end of the 48 slide, like a 19, it is no longer compatible with the short slide.  That defeats the purpose.   So we keep the short dust cover and add a rail.  It isn't long enough.  The G43 barrel length is 8.6cm, the S&W M&P Shield 380 EZ barrel length is 9.3cm.  Or in Imperial terms, a shade over 1/4" shorter than the Shield EZ.  And since the Shield EZ's dust cover doesn't go all the way to the muzzle, it's safe to say they are about the same. 

I bought a Shield EZ for the purpose of giving it to a friend who has strength issues due to nerve damage.  And to set it up properly, I planned to slap on an Olight mini-Valkyrie light.  After all, the Shield has a rail with 3 slots, so a light must fit, right?  News flash, it doesn't.  The smallest detachable light is too long to latch on.  A TLR-1 won't fit either.  The only one I can find that will is maybe the Inforce APL.  The Recover Tactical rail doesn't look long enough to handle anything useful either.  So the bottom line is that Glock can abandon the "x" concept to give the 48 a long enough dust cover to have a working rail, or keep the x.  They chose the latter, and at least for now, I think that was the better choice. 

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https://thegunblog.ca/2019/01/...-to-be-canada-legal/

Glock 48 to be available in Canada

TheGunBlog.ca — Glock GmbH, the maker of the world’s bestselling handgun, designed its new model 48 pistol as its first standard firearm developed specifically to be legal in Canada, one of the company’s largest recurring markets outside the U.S.

The single-stack 9 mm gun could be in stores across the country as early as next month for about $650, said James Cassells, Glock’s sales manager for Canada.

106 mm Barrel

The two-tone, 10-round G48 is the first pistol to come standard with a 106-mm barrel in Glock’s 37-year historyas a handgun manufacturer.

Canadian law makes it a crime for federally licensed shooters to have a handgun with a barrel of 105 mm or less, or to have mags with room for more than 10 rounds of ammunition.

Cassells worked with colleagues at Austria-based Glock in 2017 to make a version of the bestselling G19 pistol with a longer barrel and reduced mag capacity for sale in Canada. They also made a Canadian edition of the G19X.

Canadian Compliance’

While we have modified various models in the past to make them Canada legal, the G48 was the first standard model to account for Canada compliance in design,” Cassells told TheGunBlog.ca today.

Subscribers Only, Read our full Q&A with James Cassells: Glock Canada Manager Cassells Comments on New Orders, Gun Bans (If you subscribe today, we’ll send you the access password within a few hours.)

Political Context

The new model is coming as Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau considers ending civilian handgun ownership through a “full ban” on pistols, revolvers and many rifles and shotguns.

He’s also preparing to pass Bill C-71as a law to prohibit and eventually confiscate certain rifles and make it harder for hunters, farmers and sport shooters to buy, sell, own and transport firearms.

The G48 is also one of the few new designs announced recently by a major firearm manufacturer and could be a highlight of this year’s SHOT Show. The world’s largest trade expo for the firearm industry opens Jan. 22 in Las Vegas, with a range day on Jan. 21. (Find our past SHOT Show coverage here.)

Record Sales

The new firearm will compete in the U.S. against Smith & Wesson’s Shield and SIG Sauer’s P365. Both guns are banned for Canadians because their barrels are too short.

Canada’s shooting market is tiny compared to the U.S., but it’s one of Glock’s most-consistent countries for sales year to year with 4,000 to 5,000 guns sold on average. Last year set a Canadian record for the company as it introduced new models and won a large police contractin Ontario, Cassells said.

Sport, Police

Hunting and target shooting are among Canada’s safest and most-popular outdoor and sporting activities. More men and women have a firearm licencethan play golf or hockey, or who ski.

For sports shooting, it will be a great pistol to start with,” Cassells said of the model 48. “It’s going to be lower cost, so it will be a good entry pistol. For law enforcement, it’s a perfect plain-clothes pistol.”

Timing, Price

The G48 will be on display at SHOT Show and in U.S. stores on Jan. 21, Glock’s U.S. subsidiary said today in unveiling the new handgun.

It could be in Canadian stores by late February or early March if the U.S. government ends a shutdown and resumes processing firearm-export permits “pretty soon,” Cassells said.

It’s probably going to be around $650 Canadian,” Cassells said. “There will be a slight adjustment in our prices because of the dollar being where it is now.”

That would make it Glock’s least-pricey firearm in Canada.

A Canadian Glock 19 Gen 4 costs $710 in many stores. (TheGunBlog.ca was the firstmedia worldwide to report that Glock was planning the firearm.) The standard G19, with a 102-mm barrel and 15-round mags, is the world’s most-popular handgun.

The model 17, which was Glock’s first pistol and redefined the global handgun industry, sells in its Gen 5 version for $757 at Toronto-based Al Flaherty’s Outdoor Store and at Calgary Shooting Centre, among Canada’s largest independent firearm retailers.

G45 Next?

Glock may start selling a longer-barrel version of its model 45 pistol this year in Canada, Cassells said. The G45 is chambered in 9 mm and based on the G19X.

With the G45, there’s definitely an interest in having it with a Canadian barrel,” Cassells said. “We’ve had agencies adopt the 45. I actually think that’s the best pistol we make for law enforcement today.”

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There are reports that the G43x and G48 are in stores already, but they can't be sold until 1/21.  Nice that Canada's laws were considered in the design and that might be an added sales incentive, though the design specs are probably enough to do that. I'll check out the G48 and at this point, I'm inclined to get one.

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Dorsai posted:

There are reports that the G43x and G48 are in stores already, but they can't be sold until 1/21.  Nice that Canada's laws were considered in the design and that might be an added sales incentive, though the design specs are probably enough to do that. I'll check out the G48 and at this point, I'm inclined to get one.

I have an in at the largest chain of gunstores in Florida.  I will check with their warehouse manager tomorrow to see if they have them.

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Dorsai posted:

  Since I'm now trying to channel their corporate decisions, they may or may not discontinue production of the slimmer 6rd gun.  I'll let you know when I make up their corporate mind.

Tell them to step up on the roughness of the grip texture.  Also if they are going to discontinue the 6 rnd 43 to do so at blowout prices because I need small...

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I'll sell you mine...

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Sootch doing a fairly quick review of the 43x and 48.  A 43 even shows up so you can see the size difference; not only between the length of the grip, but the width (he says the two new ones are 1 mm wider):  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05xMBTSCGes


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MOJONIXON posted:
M. Wilson posted:

So super duper dumb question, is there a micro red dot that will fit on a 43?

The Shield RMS or RMSC maybe.  It might even fit on your CW9. 

Those are craptastic, one of our guys was T/E one for duty and I don't think it even made it the whole shift. Best option for the 43 is an RMR in Dueck RBU mount.

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Ours came in via UPS on Monday, they FEEL great in the hand.  Won't replace my 43, but it feels like it will be very shootable and very comfortable to carry.  Black models will be released shortly as well.

De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.

Nope, just got one of each.  Not sure when the rest and supporting equipment will show up.  I think I saw the black announced on another forum, but haven't seen anything direct from glock yet.

De inimico non loquaris sed cogites.

I inadvertently regurgitated some bad internet info, spoke to a Glock rep in person today and asked about black 43x and 48's.  He asked where I heard that, and said Glock has no plans to release a black model.   For what that's worth....

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Hush posted:

I inadvertently regurgitated some bad internet info, spoke to a Glock rep in person today and asked about black 43x and 48's.  He asked where I heard that, and said Glock has no plans to release a black model.   For what that's worth....

Well that sucks...

 

 

 

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Picked mine up today and it feels great. The reach to the trigger is short and I can see that I'll have to fight jamming my trigger finger in up to the first joint. The trigger pull feels good and is least a good if not better than my carry gun with factory 3.5lb connector and NY1 spring. I wish it came with a smooth trigger....

The last armorers course I went to the 42's were just coming out so I'm out of the loop. Anybody know why there is a smooth trigger available for the 42 but not the 43/43X?

The 43X fits a Gaunt leather IWB (basically a Sparks VM2 copy) just fine although I can tell the Ameriglo sights are taller and are carving a deeper sight channel. The guy at the counter (GT distributors) tells me that they now have an SKU # for mags, but does not know when they will be in stock. They are not taking backorders on mags and I was told to just keep checking the website for stock.

I made it home and loaded up the mags for a quick testfire and it ran fine and felt good.

Jesus Titty Fucking Christ it feels good in the hand.

I handled a 48 today and the only thing that kept me from walking out with it was the lack of night sights. I've been meaning to pick up a micro compact (Shield or 43) for summer carry but hated the way they felt, the 48 just felt amazing. I hear it shoots like a 19, so I'll pick up a Blue Label stat. 

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Got to handle and shoot (first one!) a friend's 48 he showed up at the range with today. 

I don't much like Glocks. Tried for a few years, took it serious, never got them. Bad grip angle to me, etc. 

These are shockingly good. Best thing they've produced in at least a decade, and just from my tiny experience with it, one of the best new handguns I've seen in years. Really, really good hand feel. Nearly perfect hump, texturing, everything. Really nice size. Good sights even to my failing eyes; just Glock sights, but they seem stunning with tiny sights on even pretty good compacts. 

Mag is really nice. Doesn't seem at all like a hack, but like all mags should work this way. Loads smooth, orange follower is slick enough it reminds me of the Calico of all things. Very visible through witness holes. Plenty of ramping at the bottom of the frame, easy to reload. 

Slide lock easy to hit, not in the way. Seems to stick out more than usual, but I didn't measure, may be an illusion of the frame size change.  

Shoots like a dream. Breaks cleanly, recoil is smooth that my doubles are nearly touching at 10 yards. And I'm not that great a shot. 

Overall, annoyed I can't go buy one (money, other disappointments and priorities) and replace 90% of my Kahr P9 work with it. 

I see why everyone is disappointed by not-black options. Not just anti two tone guy, but do not like the color of the silvery top. But, that's pure aesthetics. 

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thompsonkrav posted:

Picked mine up today and it feels great. The reach to the trigger is short and I can see that I'll have to fight jamming my trigger finger in up to the first joint.

Pat McNamara has something to say about the trigger finger, might be something to think about:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g2-46CxSLA 


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Cytez posted:
thompsonkrav posted:

Picked mine up today and it feels great. The reach to the trigger is short and I can see that I'll have to fight jamming my trigger finger in up to the first joint.

Pat McNamara has something to say about the trigger finger, might be something to think about:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g2-46CxSLA 

I've put about 300 through mine and can't group shit with it.  Swapped the factory sights out for Ameriglo agents, which I have on my 19x.  I'm almost positive it has something to do with the grip dimensions and my trigger pull, since I'm consistently pulling left (but no real grouping).  I really wanted to like the gun, but I'm leaning towards trading it for a 26 for the time-being.  My 43 pulls to the left a little, too, but it's not as noticeable when I shoot that and I can group with it.

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I picked up a blue label 48 on Sunday. I only had time to put 100 rounds thru it. I was generally happy with it. I want to upgrade the sights and find a holster for it. I plan on replacing my S&W shield with this in a couple months as my prefered carry if all goes well with it.

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How a gun fits your hand doesn't get the merit it deserves.   I've had people ask me which is better, G43 or Shield.  And/or which one do I have.  My answer is that I prefer the Shield because of the way it fits my hand, not because it is objectively better.  How it fits affects where your trigger finger naturally falls on the trigger, which then affects how you press the trigger and whether that pushes shot to the left, or pulls them to the right.  I've fondled the G43x and G48, I haven't shot them.  I've been following some extensive threads regarding shooting them and it doesn't appear they have a mechanical defect that affects the accuracy, it's a fit issue.  The common observation is that the longer, slightly thicker grip feels better than the G43.  I personally don't like the G26, but others prefer it to the G48 or 43x.  Once again, it comes down to personal preference.  So if you bought one, can't shoot it straight and find you don't like it, you got the bad luck of the draw.  Nothing wrong with the gun or with you, it just isn't a good fit.

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Fun story, but really not me: guy who used to do my job (old range bitch) retired several years ago. Went to work at some gun counter out of boredom. 

One of his coworkers asked him to take him out to our range (retirees can still use it when nothing official is going on). Coworker of retiree just bought a G48. Old Range Bitch (ORB) has some old 9mm lying around - factory reloads from decades ago.  We used to buy them as practice ammo for when we had MP-5s, and I’m sure he squirreled away partial boxes of leftovers. 

ORB’s coworker shoots one mag, then hands it off to ORB. ORB fires 2 rounds. The 3rd Kb’s the gun. Cracked the frame behind the trigger guard, shoots the mag out, extractor goes into low earth orbit - just makes a mess of the gun. Complete case-head separation. Shows me the pics. Minor scrapes, no real injury. 

I just thought it was fun they shot a gun that was maybe 45 minutes old and it blew up. No doubt bad ammo - so Glock likely will not replace it.  He says he really liked the gun until it blew up. Now he thinks he has a flinch. 

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SPDSNYPR posted:

Fun story, but really not me: guy who used to do my job (old range bitch) retired several years ago. Went to work at some gun counter out of boredom. 

One of his coworkers asked him to take him out to our range (retirees can still use it when nothing official is going on). Coworker of retiree just bought a G48. Old Range Bitch (ORB) has some old 9mm lying around - factory reloads from decades ago.  We used to buy them as practice ammo for when we had MP-5s, and I’m sure he squirreled away partial boxes of leftovers. 

ORB’s coworker shoots one mag, then hands it off to ORB. ORB fires 2 rounds. The 3rd Kb’s the gun. Cracked the frame behind the trigger guard, shoots the mag out, extractor goes into low earth orbit - just makes a mess of the gun. Complete case-head separation. Shows me the pics. Minor scrapes, no real injury. 

I just thought it was fun they shot a gun that was maybe 45 minutes old and it blew up. No doubt bad ammo - so Glock likely will not replace it.  He says he really liked the gun until it blew up. Now he thinks he has a flinch. 

So he really liked it for one mag plus 3 rounds one of which Kb’d the gun?

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MOJONIXON posted:

So he really liked it for one mag plus 3 rounds one of which Kb’d the gun?

Yup - this guy is really funny. He visited a few days ago, and I took him down to our shift brief. He had everyone rolling - he's just a really funny guy. 

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"No doubt bad ammo - so Glock likely will not replace it." 

My buddy blew up his G27 with his reloads, and Glock DID replace it.  He even called them to see if they could fix it and got the shop crew on the phone "Hey guys, it's Mr Abcd!   Mr Abcd, are you OK?"  And a new gun came to him with (he swears) the same serial number.  Of course, this was back when Glock was getting a bad reputation for KBooms in .40 S&W pistols so maybe they were trying to improve PR.

As soon as I got the G48 home a few days back, it was slide switcharoonie time.

Yes, the G48 slide fits right onto the G43 frame.  I am even going to fire it that way, once I can manage to get to the range.

Glockmeister's sale this week resulted in an order for TruGlo sights and I've ordered the adapter to fit the skinny slides to my sight pushing tool. 

The G48 trigger is great.  I guess it is the Gen 5 version and it is noticeable better than the triggers on my Gen 3 and Gen 4 Glocks.

Glockmeister is taking pre-orders for the magazines, although the pre-order price at Brownells is $2 lower.  I haven't seen anybody online who actually has them in stock yet.  My pistol was not one of the police purchase ones and it came with 2 mags.  Maybe the LEO pistols will have more, I don't know.

AIM Surplus got some in today but they already sold out

https://aimsurplus.com/glock-m...48-9mm-10rd-magazine

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SPDSNYPR posted:

Fun story, but really not me: guy who used to do my job (old range bitch) retired several years ago. Went to work at some gun counter out of 

 He says he really liked the gun until it blew up. 

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libertarian45 posted:
SPDSNYPR posted:

Fun story, but really not me: guy who used to do my job (old range bitch) retired several years ago. Went to work at some gun counter out of 

 He says he really liked the gun until it blew up. 

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or epitaph. 

I feel the pull of one of those 48s.  

I stopped by my old agency today for my LEOSA card.  The Alpha Captain who gets to pick gun shit had a big box of Glock and box’o Springfield Armory 9mm pistols. 

I’m not a Glock fan but the G48 seems to be a really decent pistol.  The G19 might be more conducive to swapping magazines with duty size guns but the G48 (and G43X) are very nice EDC pistols.  

Bart Noir posted:

As soon as I got the G48 home a few days back, it was slide switcharoonie time.

Yes, the G48 slide fits right onto the G43 frame.  I am even going to fire it that way, once I can manage to get to the range.

 

Interested to hear how that goes

Finally got my 48 but all they had was the craptastic plastic sights available and I want to upgrade to night sights. Searching all over I'm unable to find the correct size/model. I'm assuming that the 43 sights are what I need but wanted to check first before ordering.

Yep it uses 43 sights.

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