H&K VP9 (Striker Fired)

The slide stop  mod is very subtle.

I had Rick do it as my last carry guns were USP/USPC models and I was used to that wide slide stop they have.

Rick adds some material to the surface to make it just a bit more substantial and refinished the part.  It does make a difference for me,  but YMMV.

The change is subtle enough that it did not impact the gun's fit in the fitted Ritchie and Kramer leather holsters I use.  It is almost invisible to the eye, but you definitely notice it when you run your thumb over it.

Tony

Will Brink posted:

After having the VP9 for extended range time, no complaints not my own fault.  Only issue I have is I tend to ride the slide stop with the high thumbs forward grip so on occasion, no lock back on the last round. It's not a show stopper for me, but I wish they or someone would make an after market slide lever to fix that issue. I know others have experienced the issue,  a few getting rid of the pistol due to it. Never had the issue with M&Ps, Shield,  nor 1911s, just the VP9.  Thoughts?

You might try a larger grip size that would keep your finger away.  That is what I did.  I think I use the medium side panels and the large rear strap--even though I don't have large hands.

Ed L posted:
Will Brink posted:

After having the VP9 for extended range time, no complaints not my own fault.  Only issue I have is I tend to ride the slide stop with the high thumbs forward grip so on occasion, no lock back on the last round. It's not a show stopper for me, but I wish they or someone would make an after market slide lever to fix that issue. I know others have experienced the issue,  a few getting rid of the pistol due to it. Never had the issue with M&Ps, Shield,  nor 1911s, just the VP9.  Thoughts?

You might try a larger grip size that would keep your finger away.  That is what I did.  I think I use the medium side panels and the large rear strap--even though I don't have large hands.

Good idea. I don't have big hands either. Worth a try.

Among a bunch of options, at the end I suggested that my wife try a VP9.  (She's looking for something to complement or replace her Walther CCP.)  She initially thought it looked ugly, but LOVED the ergonomics.

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Aaaand, the wife ended up getting a Sig Legion SAO, not the VP9.  She said she felt like the heavier weapon soaked up felt recoil for her (shooting the rental VP9 and my P226 Legion side-by-side.) And mine with Winchester Q4318 which is probably loaded hotter than whatever PMC ball the range supplied with the rentals.

 

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Ed L posted:
Will Brink posted:

After having the VP9 for extended range time, no complaints not my own fault.  Only issue I have is I tend to ride the slide stop with the high thumbs forward grip so on occasion, no lock back on the last round. It's not a show stopper for me, but I wish they or someone would make an after market slide lever to fix that issue. I know others have experienced the issue,  a few getting rid of the pistol due to it. Never had the issue with M&Ps, Shield,  nor 1911s, just the VP9.  Thoughts?

You might try a larger grip size that would keep your finger away.  That is what I did.  I think I use the medium side panels and the large rear strap--even though I don't have large hands.

This also worked for me. Not that exact configuration but after playing around with bigger panels, I did not ride the slide stop. I have small dick beaters and assumed I needed the smallest side and backstrap but that wasn't the case. After going with larger panels my group size also tightened up. 

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News of the VP9SK being stateside came well before the NRA Convention. HK's Facebook page showed stacks of cases at HK USA awaiting shipping weeks ago. There were several members of ARFCOM posting their photos of guns they'd been sent to review as early as 4/23 and a youtube video  by Daniel Shaw featuring a "550 round First Look".

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkrIa46AN0g

As for a size comparison, I believe the VP9SK kis slightly larger than a G26 and probably easier to handle. 

Nevertheless, yes, I too am waiting for one with night sights...

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If I can snag one of these before I PCS in June I'm totally going to grab one.

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Yodax109 posted:

XTCBX where did you order yours from? I haven't been able to find any in stock...

http://www.cmcgov.com/ might be worth a gander, that's where Wayne Dobbs apparently got his.

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I ordered mine from that cmcgov place Default linked to. No idea when it will ship and I've seen a few places with lower prices by $30-60 but as soon as I got the link from Wayne I ordered mine. I'm assuming the VPsk feels pretty close to the P30SK (what I currently carry off duty), I dig it for a small gun. I saw a picture of a 13 round magazine from HK for the VPsk with an extention that puts it into the G19 size range...it has the potential to be awsome. 

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Some size comparisons x-posted from HKPro:

[QUOTE=ajbirken;2610970]VP9 vs. VP9SK
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/1gapCJr.jpg[/IMG]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2Y1s6IO.jpg[/img]

VP9C (AKA grip-chop) vs. VP9SK
[img]http://i.imgur.com/lzgEhX0.jpg[/img]

vs. G19
[img]http://i.imgur.com/R8OVUap.jpg[/img]

vs. P30SK
[img]http://i.imgur.com/2PbAGsI.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Aui4X3B.jpg[/img]

vs. P2000
[img]http://i.imgur.com/OaBEQkg.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/WMBJQPg.jpg[/img]

vs.G26
[img]http://i.imgur.com/nhNThM1.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/md7O8uR.jpg[/img]

vs P30
[img]http://i.imgur.com/srh276O.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Yoy1Ka4.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]

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My VP9SK came in today! I took it outta the box and went straight to the range and put 300 rounds through it. This thing is a shooter, the grip area where the web of my hand hits is higher and slightly smaller than on my P30SK allowing me to get up on the gun much higher. The trigger is the nicest of my 4 other VP series guns, they are all consistently dry good but this one seems to be a bit crisper. 

The VP9SK does not track quite as flat as the full size or shoot quite as soft but it does track better for me than the P30SK and the trigger (again for me) is much more shootable. With the pinky rest floorplate it handles like a full size gun. I was carrying and shooting my P30SK with the flat floorplate and the VPSK feels nearly the same with it (but with the different grip shape and trigger shoots much nicer for me). 

I'm going to switch my 10-8 rear and trittium front sight over to it from the P30 on Monday and make sure it's zeroed and then it's going right into carry rotation. It fits my JM IWB holster for the P30SK pretty well so I'll use that until I get one made for this. It's a keeper!

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Took mine out today.  Ran great.  Had a tough time on the trigger coming off a lot of shooting time with both a LEM and Da/Sa.  Gun hits high right for me, but that may have been more of a lighting conditions issue for me.  I intend it to replace my P30SK for a travel gun to ten round states, and general purpose small striker gun.  I like the pinky extension magazine and will likely carry it with them exclusively.  If I want smaller....still like my P2000SK in this role.  

Shot a 283 Super Test warmed up, which is good for a sub compact.  Backed that right up with a 289 Cold with my Beretta PX4CC.  The recoil is not bad on the VP9SK and it is a solid gun.  With that said, the Beretta has become my arthritis therapy gun.  It was REALLY obvious how soft shooting the Beretta is coming off the VP9SK.

Overall, solid winner for HK.  Reliable, accurate, great trigger and a good daily carry pistol.  For the person who wants a do it all Pistol and has to contend with socialist utopia magazine restrictions, I would say the VP9SK would go to the top of the list.

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I picked up my 2nd VP9 yesterday. A gray framed police version with night sights. It was sitting abandoned and unloved in the used guns section of Tim's Range in Westfield, In.  I asked about it and was told the original owner had returned it after a week because it was inaccurate(?).  Unbeliever that I am, I brought up some extra ammo and HK mags because  I had to try it out.  I do not know what the guy was using but the pistol loved 147gr American Eagle flat point and shot damn well. A few days later I was back with cash in hand.  Wedsday I will feed it some more flat point and some 147gr HST and hopefully put it in the carry rotation. (Somedays I feel like a Glock and somedays not.)

Anyone have a line on decent iwb holster for the VP9SK?

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I received the JM IWB for mv VP9SK a few weeks ago. It carries very well for me at 3:30 (it's the same holster type as I had been using for the P30SK). I use the soft loops and have no complaints with it. I can get a full and solid grip on it for my draw.

I also had them make me a IWB mag holder for it with a clip (I think it's the same one Gonzalez designed for his Tricon set) and am very happy with it. I think I've finally found my ideal consealed magazine carry solution, I've tried a bunch of others and this works much better for me than anything else I've tried. Very happy with everything I've received from JM. 

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I have a Morrigan for glock 19. I was unaware that Raven was making them now for the H&K, so I  will pick one up, despite my dislike for soft loops (in my opinion too hard or too easy to pull , difficult to get just right.  I have been using also a Blade Tech Klipt IWB for my G19.  I  started at the 3:30-4:30 position and have gone to appendix (but if I need to reholster I will pull the holster  off my  body as that is very definitely a bad, bad place for a negligent discharge.)

Off topic, does anyone know why RCS is abandoning the Phantom holster

Excellent, I'll have to check out JM, I've tried appendix carry and I'm not a huge fan (uncomfortable and it feels like it's super obvious to everyone that I'm lacking).  XTCBX, what kind of cant did you roll with?

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Did anyone keep their P30sk vice going and grabbing a VP9sk?  I want the VP9sk but I have 2 p2000 v3s with match USP spring and nickel plated springs and a p2000sk lem v2 it's hard to justifying unless I can sell the p2000sk but  I am an odd duck, I like the p2000v3 trigger.  I have friends dumping their P30sk and all bought the lem v1 and they come to cheaper than buying a new VP9sk because they all have night sights some with decent holsters and more mags.  

I have a gen4 G26 I bought before this deployment to move fully back to Glock but the last training course I took LSL, I ran the VP9 so well I started looking for a IWB Holster for it.  Went with a JM custom iwbv3 with 25 degree cant.  

Fawking autocorrect.  Packing, I meant packing! 

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Check out Blackpoint Tactical holsters as another VP9 option.  A bit more pricey, but worth it IMVHO.  

http://www.blackpointtactical.com

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Hunteran, mine is the 0 cant option. For me the soft loops allow it to "settle" into the most comfortable position (standing, sitting) but still remains solid for the draw.  

Spacetaco, I think most folks who are sticking with the P30SK are the AIWB types who like a hammered gun so they don't shoot their junk off. I carry 3:30 and the VP fits my hand better and is much more shootable for me. 

I've also gone back to the flat baseplate on the 10 rounder in the gun for carry. It doesn't really change how it shoots for me and is a bit lower profile. The factory pinky extension while awsome is contoured a little weird for my hand. I'm looking forward to getting a factory VP9SK 13 round mag that is pictured in the manual that gives a full grip makeing it essentially a P2000 sized VP.  

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I do not see it mentioned here but if anyone following this thread is on the fence HK is doing a promo right now for both the VP's and the P30's.

If you buy during the promo they are giving you (4) additional mags.

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EzGoingKev posted:

I do not see it mentioned here but if anyone following this thread is on the fence HK is doing a promo right now for both the VP's and the P30's.

If you buy during the promo they are giving you (4) additional mags.

....it's tempting me to buy another HK VP9, possibly the Tactical in another month or so...following it closely with my fav dealer..

 

 

 

I had a P30SK LEM for awhile, for reasons I cannot quite verbalize I did not like it and sold it to help pay for G19 # 4.  On the other hand I really like both of my VP9s. If I had the extra money I'd try a VP9SK.  

Oh secondarily,  I was getting tired of the infamous H&K trigger guard bite on my finger.  Five minutes with wet 1000 grit sandpaper and the bite was gone.

 

Internet rumors re the VP9, true or not. German police are reportedly making a large purchase of bothe VP9 and VP9SK in the nex year.  The chief benefit for us is that more companies will start producing holsters for them.  At the NRA Con Raven told me that there just was not yet enough market for VP9s for them to offer a lot of rigs for carry.


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The Bavarian Police gets a new weapon


The old model of the police, the Heckler and Koch pistol P7 (((mostly the M8 single stack magazine, but also M13))), has had its day. It will be replaced by a new weapon until 2019. 

So far, there are three pistols, which would come into consideration. These are the P320 from SIG Sauer, the SFP9 from Heckler & Koch and the PPQ from the manufacturer Walther ....

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HK SFP9 stands for Striker Fired Pistol 9x19mm (in the US marketed as HK VP9)

The Bavarian Police largest counrty state police force in Germany with 33.500 armed officers.

Decision of  gun will be made beginning of 2018.

The good news for the followers of the cult of the P7, maybe some of the old de commissioned guns find their way into the USA?

Praying for more surplus P7s...

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