Skandar posted:

With a number of VP9 mags, any word or idea if the new follower / spring would fit in the old bodies?

One of the insiders on HKPro has stated that the mag bodies are the same, so it's almost certainly going to be a follower-centric modification. I'll be picking up a bunch to retrofit all of my magazines (won't need the springs or basepad locking plate for the most part since I'm going to be using TF extensions for almost all of my mags).

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


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razzman1 posted:

The magazine body is identical (save for the extra holes). The spring, follower and locking plate have been modified (the base plate too, but juuuust barely). An old spring will not fit on a new follower, but I suspect it would fit with some dremel work. The follower ant-tilt tab at the back is shorter, as is the overall follower. The very top of the spring is also narrower where it seats into the follower.

I don't see why they wouldn't do this with the entire line of magazines, which means it is likely that we will have factory 22 round magazines sometime soon!

Source: https://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk...nes.html#post3635484

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


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RTG Parts has a flash sale going on for 20rd German HK VP9 mags....$43.95. Dont knowing that is good or not but figured I'd pass it along.

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Stupidity is not a skillset.

I AM GROOT.

 

 

 

 

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Consigliere posted:

RTG Parts has a flash sale going on for 20rd German HK VP9 mags....$43.95. Dont knowing that is good or not but figured I'd pass it along.

That's solid...I had been selling them for $90 a piece lightly used when they were out of stock.

"Pain, we endure...faulty weaponry, we do not."

Consigliere posted:

RTG Parts has a flash sale going on for 20rd German HK VP9 mags....$43.95. Dont knowing that is good or not but figured I'd pass it along.

Crap, just when I have my CC paid off.

I swear, you guys can spend my money better than I.....

k

Joined: 7/15/04 8:49 AM
Location: Northern Nevada

Will Brink posted:

What type of felt differences do you get with the comp?

 It's been awhile since I shot my stuff uncomped, but I recall it being noticeably less in terms of felt recoil with hotter stuff like Gold Dot 124 gr. +P or Lawman 115 gr.; that being said, it was mostly a comfort thing, raw splits did not really see any real noticeable increase in freestyle (though my splits have traditionally been fairly slow, pulling out 0.2 at best when just blazing into a berm), though one-handed saw some minor, but quantifiable, improvements. I've since moved on from the Arc Sparc, as I could not get them to stay in place (use of Rocksett did not work, though I did not resort to Loctite 271), and am currently using the Zev ProComp V2.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

 

老僧三十年前未參禪時、見山是山、見水是水、及至後夾親見知識、有箇入處、見山不是山、見水不是水、而今得箇體歇處、依然見山秪是山、見水秪是水。


Joined: 2008-07-16

EzGoingKev posted:
Antonius posted:

I have been deeply committed to the VP9 platform as my EDC since late 2014 and have three VP9s as well as one VP9sk that have all been smoothed up by Rick at Lazy Wolf Guns. 

How would you rate the work done?

The stock trigger on mine is the best striker fired trigger I have used. My only dislike is the reset has some over travel to it.

Of my five VP9s, two have trigger jobs from GG, while one was worked over by LWG.  They are very similar in terms of feel.  Turnaround time from GG is faster.  I did have to send one of mine back to GG for warranty service after a pin started walking out of the trigger every hundred rounds or so.  They paid for shipping both ways and replaced the trigger bar at no cost to me.  Disappointing it happened in the first place, but satisfied with the customer service.  I think you can't go wrong with either, but Rick probably provides a little more quality work, at the expense of turnaround time.

I picked up my first VP9 in early 2015 and fell in love with the platform.  At this point I have over 42,000 rounds through them, and I still love them.  They are not perfect.  The OD frame model I have struggles to feed Federal AE9FP 147gr reliably (though it doesn't have any issues with round-nose bullets).  Aftermarket support sucks, though I did manage to confirm that Safariland's M&P optics-ready holster does work with a milled VP9, though there is a bit of play in the ALS lockup that makes it questionable for duty use.

Joined: 2JAN2004

Location: South Florida



Casey posted:

I picked up my first VP9 in early 2015 and fell in love with the platform.  At this point I have over 42,000 rounds through them, and I still love them.  They are not perfect.  The OD frame model I have struggles to feed Federal AE9FP 147gr reliably (though it doesn't have any issues with round-nose bullets).  Aftermarket support sucks, though I did manage to confirm that Safariland's M&P optics-ready holster does work with a milled VP9, though there is a bit of play in the ALS lockup that makes it questionable for duty use.

Was that with a legacy M&P or a M&P 2.0 holster? They are very different internal dimensions.

 

Dang I just got a new VP9 Tactical but it came with standard Meprolight sights.  I think This was old new stock.  I’m carrying a P2000 again because even though I shoot The best with my Glock 19 gen3 I hust have these p2000s and P30sk sitting here that I use to carry and compete with.  Just wish my old duty SLS and Safariland belt holster fit my p2000v3.  

Longeye posted:

Incidentally, I have VP9 Tactical (threaded barrel, suppressor sights) with seven mags for sale if anyone is interested.

Great gun, but I am consolidating now that the direction of our firearms program is confirmed.

You're killing me Smalls...............

 

k

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Handled the new VP9 at SHOT. The trigger feels better then my other 3 factory VP9 and VP9SK triggers. More crisp.  But of course the HK rep said nothing had been changed. 

I also talked to the guys at the XTECH booth. They said they manufacture the 17 rounds mags for HK and have them for sale if anyone’s looking for some. 

Yodax109 posted:

I also talked to the guys at the XTECH booth. They said they manufacture the 17 rounds mags for HK and have them for sale if anyone’s looking for some. 

Looked at the website. Says the new mags are 1/10" longer than factory, and I didn't see any kits to retrofit existing mags. Pity.

XTCBX posted:

Spacetaco, hit me up later this year...I’ll have a few Safariland P2000 holsters for you. 

Thanks, will hit you up.  I’m actually enjoying the p2000 v3’s I have.  So much so that I have gave up my gen5 19 for a p30sk Lem because I do not like the V3 of the p30sk.

I went into one of the LGS on Saturday. Was going to pick up a USP compact since you don't see those come in often (and I want all of the USP 9/40 F/C in the collection). Ended up with that on lay-away and a 2020 VP9 leaving with me.

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hile posted:

I went into one of the LGS on Saturday. Was going to pick up a USP compact since you don't see those come in often (and I want all of the USP 9/40 F/C in the collection). Ended up with that on lay-away and a 2020 VP9 leaving with me.

Is the VP9 the latest model with the milled slide for a RDS?

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IT'S A COLT.  THEY'RE LIKE THE HK OF GUNS.

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Stupidity is not a skillset.

I AM GROOT.

 

 

 

 

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exactly that, John. My buddy who was at the range with me likes it a lot. it doesn't have an optic on it yet, as I don't have another optic (RMR or holosun) lying around. Damn thing is accurate AF even with my incompetent ass running it.

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hile posted:

exactly that, John. My buddy who was at the range with me likes it a lot. it doesn't have an optic on it yet, as I don't have another optic (RMR or holosun) lying around. Damn thing is accurate AF even with my incompetent ass running it.

Awesome.  Thanks brother.  I was going to cut up a pistol but this way I can skip that step and just get a RDS to try.

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IT'S A COLT.  THEY'RE LIKE THE HK OF GUNS.

HRH (Ret.) The Most Reverend Consig

Stupidity is not a skillset.

I AM GROOT.

 

 

 

 

 Joined: 28 Nov 2004: 0037hrs        Location: The worst run state in the U.S

I got it because I wanted the 17 round factory mags (Though that it gets an optic is a good start). I don't know if they have a SKU with Communist mags yet. I hear I'm going to have a bitch of a time getting any more mags for the time being.

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Consigliere posted:
hile posted:

exactly that, John. My buddy who was at the range with me likes it a lot. it doesn't have an optic on it yet, as I don't have another optic (RMR or holosun) lying around. Damn thing is accurate AF even with my incompetent ass running it.

Awesome.  Thanks brother.  I was going to cut up a pistol but this way I can skip that step and just get a RDS to try.

Interested as well. I'm going to check with my LGS to see if they are available for MA purchase.

ETA: They are MA compliant, comes with two 10 round mags.

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 As I rock 50 plus bad vision, the RDS guns get more and more use. I already have a VP9 that I love  but just ordered a new one with the factory RDS  prep. I'll swap them out and send  my " iron sights" VP  to Grays or ATEI for slide milling.

hile posted:

I got it because I wanted the 17 round factory mags (Though that it gets an optic is a good start). I don't know if they have a SKU with Communist mags yet. I hear I'm going to have a bitch of a time getting any more mags for the time being.

Hile,

I have some extra Red state capacity. magazines

Hit me up if you need a couple.

Skandar posted:
Yodax109 posted:

I also talked to the guys at the XTECH booth. They said they manufacture the 17 rounds mags for HK and have them for sale if anyone’s looking for some. 

Looked at the website. Says the new mags are 1/10" longer than factory, and I didn't see any kits to retrofit existing mags. Pity.

I emailed HK about retrofitting extra mags, they gave me the big Nyet!

Good to see XTECH making the OEM mags for HK now. I bought a half-dozen of their 17-rd VP9 mags last year during Veteran Day pricing. They're solid. 

Was thinking of vetting a P320 X-Compact, but the prospect of an optic ready VP9 is just too tempting. By chance is there a VP9B "push button" with optic slide yet?

Longeye posted:


Casey posted:

I picked up my first VP9 in early 2015 and fell in love with the platform.  At this point I have over 42,000 rounds through them, and I still love them.  They are not perfect.  The OD frame model I have struggles to feed Federal AE9FP 147gr reliably (though it doesn't have any issues with round-nose bullets).  Aftermarket support sucks, though I did manage to confirm that Safariland's M&P optics-ready holster does work with a milled VP9, though there is a bit of play in the ALS lockup that makes it questionable for duty use.

Was that with a legacy M&P or a M&P 2.0 holster? They are very different internal dimensions.

 

Um... this is the model number: SA-6390RDS-2192-701.  I trashed the package so I can't remember what the item description was.

Joined: 2JAN2004

Location: South Florida

Casey posted:

  The OD frame model I have struggles to feed Federal AE9FP 147gr reliably (though it doesn't have any issues with round-nose bullets).  

My early edition VP9  all black and my later grey framed police model (night sights) feed AE9FP like they were designed for it.  My only hate on them is the infamous trigger guard bite.

 

steveg2 posted:
My early edition VP9  all black and my later grey framed police model (night sights) feed AE9FP like they were designed for it.  My only hate on them is the infamous trigger guard bite.
 

Yeah, it's weird (and very disappointing).  The OD model I bought with plans to turn into my ultimate carry gun.  At this point it's had a LWG trigger job, Boresight Solutions competition grip package, and RMR milling... I've got close to $2k into it and there's not a chance I would trust it as a carry gun.  51 stoppages in 11,210 rounds fired, or 219 MRBS.  Almost every single one of those was shooting strong hand only, but not limp-wristing the gun.  The problems started before the grip work, so I don't believe that the texturing weakened the frame at all (Ben indicated VP9s have very thin frames and a hack stippling job can compromise them more easily than other manufacturers).

Meanwhile, of my four other VP9s, one has gone 5,499 rounds with zero stoppages, one is at 1,084 MRBS (6,505 fired with 6 stoppages), one is at 582 MRBS (21,536 fired with 37 stoppages, but half of those were Freedom Munitions or shooter-induced, so...), and one is at 2,861 with zero stoppages.

Breaking down the data further, of the two trouble-free guns, one is stock (other than sights), and the other has a GrayGuns trigger job.  For the three guns that have experienced failures, one is stock (other than sights), one has GG trigger work, and one has LWG work—I cannot attribute any of the reliability deficiencies to aftermarket mods.

Note that I've fired 1,022 rounds of quality defensive ammunition (mix of P9HST2 and RA9B 147gr) through all five guns with zero stoppages.  Total combined round count as of this writing is approximately 47,461.

The VP9 is a good gun, but it's not perfect, and practice ammo is cheap for a reason.

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