I'm a low-speed REMF who only gets the occasional chance to go outside at night. Could someone please explain the cover flap as it relates to strobe use? Are you tucking a Phoenix, etc in there and letting it flash THROUGH the cover?

Just my $0.02 worth.

 

Steve

 

 

"Damn near everyone is going to be deployed sometime. I'd rather go with a motivated unit that trains hard and takes shit seriously than with some REMF unit with people that do nothing but whine about their GI Bill being fucked up..." - LightScout

 

Joined:  14 Nov 03     Location:  The Concho Valley

Good info and great pic, dude. Thanks.
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"Its not about shooting, its about fighting with a gun." -Pat Rogers


The answer to 1984 is 1776.

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quote:
Originally posted by Titleist:
Actually, it will IF you're using the ARC Rails, and for a LARGE 2001 cut you'll want to use the S/M FS cover. I ordered a M/L but they sent a S/M and oddly enough it fit perfectly.


Sexy. Is that the first spear or the crye?

Off topic, I'm assuming that dual dovetail adadpter locks up well in the Wilcox mount? Did you have to modify it in any way?
Over the years since about 1987, I've worked on gear off and on. One of the first items I made was a woodland camo cover for a WWII German helmet, that I actually wore to Army Reserve drills once or twice....Top thought it was the new PASGT Fritz Helmet....lol...

Anyhoooo, here are a couple of my latest works, a 50/50 Nyco Multicam cover from Tru-Spec that I added some closed cell foam to the front and "quilted" it, like the Eagle Ind. covers. This one also has a 3/4" Multicam Webbing Chinstrap Assy:




This one is made from scratch in Coyote 500d IR-treated Cordura, quilted front, velcro for IR flags on each side, and a U section wrapped over the top connecting the two IR flag velcro:

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

quote:
Originally posted by Longeye:
ignorant question:
What does the foam and quilting do for you?


Its just a method of reenforcing the front part of the cover from wear and tear.

The closed-cell foam reduces noise from a loose mounting plate and protects your paint job from damage from the NVD mount.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

"Design sense" would also seem to suggest that it's quilted (rather than just straight stitch or even a box X) to allow you to cut away portions of the cover to facilitate bolting on your mounting plate of choice without compromising the integrity of the rest of the cover.

I could be FOS, but I don't think I am. Sayin things like "design sense" on a military forum is kindof awkward, though.
quote:
Originally posted by BigFootXJ:
"Design sense" would also seem to suggest that it's quilted (rather than just straight stitch or even a box X) to allow you to cut away portions of the cover to facilitate bolting on your mounting plate of choice without compromising the integrity of the rest of the cover.


That is also correct. Say for example you had a bitch of a time installing a Norotos or Wilcox 3-hole onto your lid so you didn't want to do it all over again to install a camo cover. You can cut away part of the front section to clear the Rhino Mount and it shouldn't unravel all to threads.

I've got another done in Multicam Mesh with the Rhino base profile already marked out with stitching so all you have to do it cut away the inside then melt the raw edge with a lighter.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Here's a few more pics of a Coyote 500d, padded front, 3 columns in 5 rows velcro sewn to molle on the back:
ttp://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h315/adlerarmory/?action=view¤t=Cyclops2.jpg

Cover with OpsCore Shroud pinned in place:
http://s67.photobucket.com/alb...current=Cyclops1.jpg

Separate item, a 3/4" Multicam webbing chinstrap:
http://s67.photobucket.com/alb...camMICHChinstrap.jpg

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Sorry, my Javascript was fuggin up:

Here's a few more pics of a Coyote 500d, padded front, 3 columns in 5 rows velcro sewn to molle on the back:


Cover with OpsCore Shroud pinned in place:


Separate item, a 3/4" Multicam webbing chinstrap:

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

I just read through this thread and felt like I should throw a little history down (at least personal history).

Why did the cool guys start painting their helmets? Well, I don't know about other units, but at 5th SFG(A) we didn't have desert helmet covers. We had just fielded the MICH, and the army was still rocking K-pots. At OCIE we were handed brand new olive green MICH kits with all the pads and straps and shit, but no cover.

As most people know, 5th SFG(A) is desert-centric based on AOR. So, we resorted to painting their new helmets tan. In order to attach IR dots and flags, we resorted to velcro. Some guys (and some teams) used tans and browns to create all manner of camo patterns. Leadership wasn't inclined to dictate standards for our painted helmets, and we certainly weren't going to conform to Army standards.

Fast forward to the Afghanistan and Iraq invasions and you have the Army gearing up in their BDU/DCUs and kevlars, and the cool kids were wearing their new MICH helmets painted tan.

We actually had a lot of concern that we wouldn't blend in with our Army brothers..."hey lets shoot those guys with different helmets" but once we got busy we stopped caring about that kind of thing.

What began as a shortage of a standard item (helmet cover) became the mark of an "operator" and all sorts of units began taking their helmet covers of and painting their hats.

To echo what Pat said earlier (like a year ago), helmet covers will go back to being mandatory and standard items. The painted helmet will go down as a short-lived fad based on the military insisting on not providing units (even special units) with all the parts needed for an issued item.

Other folks may have other perspectives, but that's how I remember it going down.

DOL
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Bottom side of the First Spear cover:

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This is a L/XL for the FAST helmet. It fit the BAE LG 2002 I got in for T&E just fine, slightly loose just above/behind the VAS shroud.
With the hook velcro to attach this to the loop fields on your existing helmet, it is not going anywhere.
Here's progress making a pattern for an OpsCore FAST Bump Helmet, graciously loaned by a Lightfighter, thank you very much:


This cover is being made from Duro Multicam Omega Mesh. I cut a hole for the rhino mount to fit the integral NVD base then stitched 1in Multicam edgebinding tape around the cut edge.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Aren't the covers also good for protecting the helmet? From damaging UV rays from the sun and abrasion. I know that paint will protect it from the sun unless/until it wears off, but letting the cover get scratched and torn seems better than abrading the top few layers of Kevlar.
Superb job, bro! I guess it hasn't been easy but the outcome is impressive. I should try to build my own helmet cover but I am not too much skillful sewing.

Joined: 30DEC08      Location: SPAIN

Take care, keep safe, stay frosty, brother!

tirotactico.net

The First Spear covers work VERY well. If you are not certain of your size, contact Ronnie Fowlkes at First Spear.

I'm also a big fan of the Helmet Hut that First Spear makes.

It protects your lid, keeps shit from rolling around, and it has plenty of extra space for the shit that goes on the helmet.
"War is the forge that hardens us" Archpriest N'Gathan
LFer wanted a coyote cover to cover and protect the Multicam hydro dip on his OpsCore FAST Jump Helmet. We went with Mil C-8061 Coyote Mesh (from www.rockywoods.com) for something different.

To clear the built-in NVD mount base, I cut a rhino porthole, rolled back the cut edges and stitched around the perimeter



He wanted a means to carry a MS2000 strobe, and while working on a permanent strobe pouch for another, the best mean was a horizontal configuration. With a vertical strobe pocket and a counterweight pocket next to it, the curvature of the shell would have caused the strobe to lift a lot of the abbreviated side panel, resulting in a shitty appearance.




He also wanted to sport a flight nametag and have the option to clip on other accessories as needed so I ran 2x4 loop velcro on the strobe flap and 3 rows of 3 columns of velcro PALS above the strobe pouch.

I'll have a Duro Ind. Omega Multicam Mesh version done tonite.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Omega Mesh with square NVD Porthole, cut, folded then sewn; expandable ANVIS cable channels; integral horizontal MS2000 and battery/ballast pockets; stowage/access flaps under IR Flags for ANVIS connector



"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Superb job, brother!

Definitely you are very skillful with the needle.

I am not as skillful to do it but I should try it with the cloth of older uniforms.

Joined: 30DEC08      Location: SPAIN

Take care, keep safe, stay frosty, brother!

tirotactico.net

since the Crye helmet covers that are issued to SOCOM are basically unobtainable, I've been trying to think of the best way to attach my ANVIS battery pack to the rear of my helmet. I've been throwing around the idea of basically buying a pouch similar to the BFG boo-boo pouch and sewing it the back of a regular helmet cover i already have. Now, I know the Boo-Boo is too small for the battery pack, has anyone tried this before and have a lead on a pouch that would fit it?
quote:
Originally posted by mfalcone15:
since the Crye helmet covers that are issued to SOCOM are basically unobtainable, I've been trying to think of the best way to attach my ANVIS battery pack to the rear of my helmet.


There are a few LPBPs (Low Profile Battery Packs) on eBay this week, with broken clips. If I can get the dimensions for one, I'd like to make a full-sized pouch from the Omega Mesh with a Multicam-covered flap and dual overlapping elastic strips forming an outlet for the power cord. Contoured best I can, to either stick to existing helmet covers via velcro, or Scovill 24L blackened brass snaps, or a velcro/PALS arrangement.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

For an experiment, I took my Large TC-2002, added some ARC-Rails, and tried the fit of a L/XL First-Spear FAST Ballistic helmet cover. Pretty damn good fit!

For science!

Signal6Delta, OUT I brew the beer I drink.

 

 

"Only 2 defining forces have ever offered to die for you....Jesus Christ and the American Soldier. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom." -Lt. Col. Grant L. Rosensteel, Jr. USAF

 

Riding, Shooting Straight, And Speaking The Truth, 'Cause I'm Jeff Cooper, and I carry a Glock, Biotch!

 

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Hal, that's a sick, freakin' cover, man! People probably don't realize how much work goes into making these things from scratch. I know the FAST covers I make, with the integral Strobe and Battery/Counterweight pockets, stowage flaps under the side IR flags, cable rounting, NVD portholes, I put about 10 hrs into making the cover and all the details. Obviously I can't charge the full rate of $22/hr for a stupid cover, so I try to stay competitive with market value.

I've been using the Amplix-mfg Multicam-printed velcro, I know there is another loop out there with a different print pattern, I can't recall that mfg name.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

This is a black OpsCore FAST Basejump S/M, Omega Mesh, Amplix Multicam-printed loop, integral Strobe/Battery-Ballast Pockets, velcro mohawk on top, and by request, NVD porthole made pentagon-shaped for a Wilcox lanyard to be fitted without setting the bolt thru the cover mesh:



And details under the ANVIS power cord stowage under the IR Flag Side Flaps:

6 o'clock position is the Baby Dot snap that secures flap, 9-12-3 o'clock are #0 blackened brass grommets with coyote ALSE cord to tie down or zip tie connector plug

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Dude your covers are the shit! Yes, they are totally time consuming. I actually wonder sometimes how I pulled off making one. There are a lot of details in these things like you said. I am gonna try some with MC mesh next weekend I think. Build a few more then take a break.

Keep up the awesome work dude.

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