Helmet Covers

Anyone have a First Spear cover for the ACH? I don't have the scratch saved for a Crye, FAST, or even a Gunfighter Cut rig.

Cheers, Matt

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Eric, thanks for putting pics of the FS ACH cover up. Been wondering what it'd look like. Seems a bit odd that provisions weren't made for side velcro and an ARC rail to be used together instead of one covering the other.

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Been searching like hell, anybody know of a helmet cover that will fit on the PT-Alpha side cut ?

Before anyone asks why I'd want one, I'm trying to find a way to make it pass on first glance as a ballistic helmet. The current contract I'm on requires the use of ballistic helmets, and naturally I'm trying to find a way to sidestep such foolishness.
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So I'm finally getting around to posting pics of the Multicam First Spear ACH cover. Took forever to arrive then life got busy.

Cover is a size Large on a size Large helmet. I had previously painted the helmet so it has a tan base coat under the mesh area.

The cover attaches via multiple velcro straps as well as a shock cord liner around the edge of the helmet. It will require your helmet to have velcro on the inside, and the straps from the cover are double sided so any pads you may run just stick right back over the helmet straps.

As has already been mentioned, the side velcro is covered by ARC rails. I pocked a tiny hole in the cover for the NOD bracket and ARC rail screws.

Any questions or more particular photos of something, let me know and I will try to help.





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Originally posted by Titleist:
Actually, it will IF you're using the ARC Rails, and for a LARGE 2001 cut you'll want to use the S/M FS cover. I ordered a M/L but they sent a S/M and oddly enough it fit perfectly.



Can this line of thought be extended to say that M/L cover will fit an XL 2001?

Ek

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Thanks for the pics, bro. Now I am more eager to get my cover. I got the wrong size and I'm waiting for the rigt one. I use a XL ACH so the cover I got was too small.

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In response to the couple posts about guys wearing Khaki with ACU pattern just because some SF guy they saw running it is kind of ignorant. Certainly that happens on a consistent basis but stating it in a way that says ALL guys that aren't SF that happen to wear khaki with ACU are just doing because of the cool SF guy is ridiculous. I wore Khaki and MC on my ACU iotv in Iraq because it works better than god awful ACU. Just an example.
Sorry to take away from the pretense of this thread. Now I'll try and contribute. That mesh MC cover looks bad ass, my only concern would be how durable it is. And on the subject of helmets, I saw somewhere online a Kevlar FAST type helmet that was not only for tactical purposes but also recreational, mountain bikes, road bikes, climbing, etc. I had it bookmarked but haven't been able to find it since. Anybody know what I'm talking about? Figured I would throw that question out.

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Something tells me this wont hold up to the wieght of NVG use and require just as much fiddling.

Cheers, Matt

"It is easy to go down into Hell; night and day, the gates of dark Death stand wide; but to climb back again, to retrace one's steps to the upper air - there's the rub, the task."    Publius Vergilius Maro, The Aeneid

I don't like it one bit....but what the demonstrator and the cameraman forgot to do is to get an interior shot...or at least an explanation of the attachment point between the OPS core shroud and the cover.

I can see this working fairly so long as there is some mega tough shit holding the shroud to the cover while also acting as a backer to the shroud, making good stable contact with the exterior of the Kevlar.

My least favorite part of scrubbing TA50 is disassembling the ACH and swapping covers from dirty to clean. This being said I still would rather quit being lazy and take the time to set up my equipment then buy a product.

I can't fathom being a Marine and having reversible fuckin covers...flip flopping every month or so...that shit would drive me up a wall.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bloody yank:
I can't fathom being a Marine and having reversible fuckin covers...flip flopping every month or so...that shit would drive me up a wall.


What about Mother Army and four camouflage patterns? Will Soldiers get away with just one helmet cover in the OCIE or transitional pattern?

 

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quote:
Originally posted by mohican:
Thanks for the pics, bro. Now I am more eager to get my cover. I got the wrong size and I'm waiting for the rigt one. I use a XL ACH so the cover I got was too small.


NP.

I'm very impressed with it and about to order a second one for a new black work helmet.

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quote:
Originally posted by Virgil:
Something tells me this wont hold up to the wieght of NVG use and require just as much fiddling.


I was thinking the same thing. Only way I can see this working is (IMHO read: I don't rate, but know NOD-Wobble), is there has GOT to be some sort of suspension under the cover. Some sort of stiffener that conforms to the cover and the helmet to provide support to the VAS shroud and the rails. Otherwise, the wearing soldier becomes a floppy bag of accessorized dicks. Paint me interested...in the concept of the helmet cover, not the floppy bag of dicks you assholeses.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bloody yank:
I don't like it one bit....but what the demonstrator and the cameraman forgot to do is to get an interior shot...or at least an explanation of the attachment point between the OPS core shroud and the cover.

I can see this working fairly so long as there is some mega tough shit holding the shroud to the cover while also acting as a backer to the shroud, making good stable contact with the exterior of the Kevlar.

My least favorite part of scrubbing TA50 is disassembling the ACH and swapping covers from dirty to clean. This being said I still would rather quit being lazy and take the time to set up my equipment then buy a product.

I can't fathom being a Marine and having reversible fuckin covers...flip flopping every month or so...that shit would drive me up a wall.


Looked like there is some black 2mm rubber or hypalon sheet used as a backer for the VAS Shroud and ARC Rails.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

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Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Latest cover enroute to South America, bungee loops and rounded velcro edges by special request, single MultiPurpose Pocket on back that can be used for MS2000 Strobe or as Counterweight/Battery Pocket, has the strobe switch slot sewn in, inside covered with velcro when not used, left side is MC Omega Mesh with a 2" MC webbing flap that folds back onto itself to allow the strobe signature to emit thru the mesh. Side velcro placed above ARC Rails:




I used Multicam woven elastic for the battery card, just hope he doesn't lose it in the jungle.

I changed to using 1" MC printed edge tape along the rim, double stitched, for speed of mfg, stronger mount point for the attachment fingers and better conformance to the rim curves.

And, I've started to use tan Velcro OneWrap for the attachment fingers, bartacked to a short length of 1" binding tape, so there is no exposed velcro on the rim to catch on everything when it is set down. Speeds up construction, saves time gluing both velcro parts to the edgetape then sewing around the edge. And it rolls up onto itself to prevent the fingers from sticking to everything as it is being made or installed on the users helmet.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Yet another custom, Omega Mesh, NVD Porthole, side velcro above ARC Rails, 2" wide MC printed "mohawk", and, my newest integral MS2000 Strobe/Batt Counterweight Pocket, that snaps down over your goggle strap.


"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

falldownjaeger, you are an artist.

You really know how to do it.

In case I didn't eventually get the cover I ordered I will beg you for a helmet cover.

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Jesus there is some art in these covers - I am suitably jealous. Falldownjaeger they are the allyest things I have seen in a long time.

By TF Helmand policy all the Brits in theatre now 'scrim' their Mk 7s. The authorised way of doing this has you looking like a militant rastafarian so all of us ended up putting a face veil over the helmet then threading MTP, sandbags, shemagh strips etc through the holes. We found you had to spray paint the mount for your NVG as well or that made a nice aiming mark on your forehead.

While I rejected it initially, when you saw the difference it made to a platoon in a field of poppy stalks I was sold on the idea. Function not fashion after all...



Still - I would rather be cutting about in one of FallDownJaeger's examples.

 

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To now pretty much 99% of covers I've made are Large MICH.

My medium cover pattern is almost done being tweaked for a better fit. I had to back burner it to work on a rush job Crye Airframe pattern and a special cover for a LF Brother that absolutely has to be in the mail by Monday......the Ranger Green I'm using to make the pattern makes the Airframe look like a fuggin' Sleestak from Land of the Lost.....
I have a TC2001 and 2002 on hand in Medium to use to make sidepanel patterns once my medium MICH/ACH/TC2000 basic pattern is perfected.
I have a TC2001 in Large being delivered on Monday, the airsoft TC2001 I had tried to use has a different contour and size from an original, shit wouldn't fit a real one to my taste.
And I have some FAST helmets coming to me in about 2 weeks, both ballistic and carbon fiber, to pattern.
Now all I need to find are some Mk6 and Mk7s to pattern, eh, Jupiler?

Jupiler,
I was joking with another LE Brother some months ago about the old Light Infantry days when it was TTP to wear the scrimmed out PASGT covers made from strips of cut up BDUs. They were order of the day for 7th ID, and some elements of 82d Airborne and 25th ID.
I was joking with him I was sending him his black MICH cover with strips of black nylon cotton ripstop sewn to it, a la the "Cabbage Head" or "Cabbage Patch Kids" look, because his dept policy was covers had to be black for SWAT except their snipers. I told him he could plug his IPOD into his Peltors so he could listen to Bob Marley "I Shot The Sheriff"
All joking aside, I'm convince "we" are going back to the jungle after we leave SWA. Personal camouflage, breaking up outlines, eliminating shine, all that is going to have to be relearned. Body armor will be left in the kit bag, can't effectively patrol in 110 degrees with 99% humidity with a 30 lb turtlesuit on.

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

See? Sleestak Head:




By special request,these Airframe covers have Mil C 8061 nylon mesh being sewn in to cover the shell vent, to keep out bugs and to minimize hot secondary junk from burning your scalp.

This rush job UCP (may a pox be upon that Natick project manager forever) Airframe cover, foliage green vent screen and, just for aesthetics, ATACS-AU printed velcro for the side patches:


The Airframe is a bit of a pain, you actually have to make two covers for it, and, trying to hold the material in place between the two shells,

"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Nothing as highspeed as falldownjaeger's work, but I modified an issue helmet cover. I had a similarly modified helmet cover for the deployment to slap a helmet camera for AARs and stuff, but this time I went full retard since it's my personal brain bucket:





Battery pouch is a (modified with extra velcro and an easy grab strap) BFG BooBoo pouch on two sewn-on 2" Multicam webbing strips. It's the perfect size for an ANVIS pack, who knew?

"We the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful."

Just finished, open top MS2000 Strobe Pocket (by special request) and Battery/Counterweight Pockets are on their own backing secured by two Scovil 24L blackened brass mil spec hard action snaps to act as a goggle retainer.
Intended for ARC Rails to be bolted overtop, has the chinstrap/rail bolt holes run as buttonholes reenforced by 725d Multicam nylon to prevent holes from tearing, egging, etc. Buttonholer itself was an ordeal finally overcome.
And, for light infantry use, gutted Multicam 550 cord run as garnish loops, temp tacked in place in this pic.

Attachment fingers are now made with tan Velcro OneWrap bartacked on edge binding tape.







"AG Holder's Fast n Furious Guns have killed more cops than M855"

 

1995 5SFG M1025A2 GMV IAIF2 

Looking for M72A5-A9 tubes, 2x AT4/M136 Tubes

"and the LORD Almighty will shield them. They will destroy and overcome with slingstones. They will drink and roar as with wine; they will be full like a bowl used for sprinkling the corners of the altar." Zechariah 9:15

Originally Posted by kaja:
Searched, but hadn't found.

Does any company make something similar to this:


This one is made for airosfters, but I like the idea (copy of crye helmet cover?).

ODG makes a good one. They designed first spears as well.

If it makes sense you're wrong. -Unknown

My current iteration of my Ops Core helmet:

 

 

 

 

 

It's a regular Ops Core FAST cut, with Ops Core H-Nape and Team Wendy pads. The helmet cover is the Combat Kit Infantry cover. The light is a Princeton Tec MLPS.

It's not about surviving, it's about winning.

Dude, your covers are the shit.  I am totally impressed.  You broke the code.  I cant deal with making them more than like 1-2 times a year.  haha.  
 
This is all I came up with.  Changed to MC loop.  Mine are Busch League compared to yours.
 
 
 
 
Originally Posted by falldownjaeger:
Just finished... ALL THESE AWESOME COVERS!

Battery pouch is a (modified with extra velcro and an easy grab strap) BFG BooBoo pouch on two sewn-on 2" Multicam webbing strips. It's the perfect size for an ANVIS pack, who knew?

 
Actually...I did a story for SWAT on the BooBoo Pouch a year or two ago, and showed one that I had attached to my Airframe.


This takes nothing away from your work, which is clearly Top Shelf.

If My Brother From Another Mother says so (and he just did) that confirms it.

Keep up the good work!

"Battery pouch is a (modified with extra velcro and an easy grab strap) BFG BooBoo pouch on two sewn-on 2" Multicam webbing strips. It's the perfect size for an ANVIS pack, who knew?"

 

 

Let me try again.
I did an article in SWAT a year or two ago and had a pic where I showed using the BooBoo Pouch as a pocket on the back of an Airframe.

This takes nothing away from your excellent work.

And I know it is excellent work because My Brother From Another Mother just said so.

And he ain't no slouch...

 
Originally Posted by falldownjaeger:
Just finished, open top MS2000 Strobe Pocket (by special request) and Battery/Counterweight Pockets are on their own backing secured by two Scovil 24L blackened brass mil spec hard action snaps to act as a goggle retainer.
Intended for ARC Rails to be bolted overtop, has the chinstrap/rail bolt holes run as buttonholes reenforced by 725d Multicam nylon to prevent holes from tearing, egging, etc. Buttonholer itself was an ordeal finally overcome.
And, for light infantry use, gutted Multicam 550 cord run as garnish loops, temp tacked in place in this pic.

Attachment fingers are now made with tan Velcro OneWrap bartacked on edge binding tape.







You make some seriously sick kit brother.

 

If it makes sense you're wrong. -Unknown

Originally Posted by falldownjaeger:
Just finished, open top MS2000 Strobe Pocket (by special request) and Battery/Counterweight Pockets are on their own backing secured by two Scovil 24L blackened brass mil spec hard action snaps to act as a goggle retainer.
Intended for ARC Rails to be bolted overtop, has the chinstrap/rail bolt holes run as buttonholes reenforced by 725d Multicam nylon to prevent holes from tearing, egging, etc. Buttonholer itself was an ordeal finally overcome.
And, for light infantry use, gutted Multicam 550 cord run as garnish loops, temp tacked in place in this pic.

Attachment fingers are now made with tan Velcro OneWrap bartacked on edge binding tape.

 

 

 

 

Anyone heard from this guy lately? I have been waiting on a helmet cover for over a year now and he's has dropped off comms. If anyone has a good POC to get in touch with him, I'd really appreciate a PM.

Originally Posted by FlakBait:
Originally Posted by falldownjaeger:
Just finished, open top MS2000 Strobe Pocket (by special request) and Battery/Counterweight Pockets are on their own backing secured by two Scovil 24L blackened brass mil spec hard action snaps to act as a goggle retainer.
Intended for ARC Rails to be bolted overtop, has the chinstrap/rail bolt holes run as buttonholes reenforced by 725d Multicam nylon to prevent holes from tearing, egging, etc. Buttonholer itself was an ordeal finally overcome.
And, for light infantry use, gutted Multicam 550 cord run as garnish loops, temp tacked in place in this pic.

Attachment fingers are now made with tan Velcro OneWrap bartacked on edge binding tape.

 

 

 

 

Anyone heard from this guy lately? I have been waiting on a helmet cover for over a year now and he's has dropped off comms. If anyone has a good POC to get in touch with him, I'd really appreciate a PM.

PM should work, I messaged him last week about a cover I wanted.

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Originally Posted by TPT924:
Originally Posted by FlakBait:
Originally Posted by falldownjaeger:
Just finished, open top MS2000 Strobe Pocket (by special request) and Battery/Counterweight Pockets are on their own backing secured by two Scovil 24L blackened brass mil spec hard action snaps to act as a goggle retainer.
Intended for ARC Rails to be bolted overtop, has the chinstrap/rail bolt holes run as buttonholes reenforced by 725d Multicam nylon to prevent holes from tearing, egging, etc. Buttonholer itself was an ordeal finally overcome.
And, for light infantry use, gutted Multicam 550 cord run as garnish loops, temp tacked in place in this pic.

Attachment fingers are now made with tan Velcro OneWrap bartacked on edge binding tape.

 

 

 

 

Anyone heard from this guy lately? I have been waiting on a helmet cover for over a year now and he's has dropped off comms. If anyone has a good POC to get in touch with him, I'd really appreciate a PM.

PM should work, I messaged him last week about a cover I wanted.

Rgr, thanks.

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