Seems too good to be true...some of the stats are a bit suspect, and I'm not 100% confident on the long-term durability of the suspension system, especially if it breaks in the field.

50lbs of light shit is still 50lbs...

However I have to admit...it sounds intriguing.

https://www.hot-newtech.com/hoverglide

https://www.youtube DOT com/watch?v=to5OKjZsKRs


 

Joined: 03 OCT 2006        Meatspace Coordinates: The Smoke

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Tested by the Army and Marines... i.e a grunt put it on and walked around...

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So low speed, i'm in Park.

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Ideas like this have been kicking around labs and kickstarter and so on for years. I am highly suspicious. Last one I saw in detail added weight, stuck the pack out further so increased perceived static load, and seemed (I couldn't try it or anything) like it was going to be subject to PIO. If you are not walking/running at a very consistent pace, the pack can wobble off-frequency and mess you up, even for heavy loads causing safety issues if it throws you off balance. 

I want to see a LOT more info from not the promoters of these. 

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Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

Best.

Possible.

Answer.

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

You have got to be kidding me.  This is right up there with that jerk off dumbbell contraption.  Why the fuck would the pack moving up and down be interpreted as anything but instability?  Do you really think you can maintain a stride that coincides perfectly with the oscillation?  I know very few people who have such an even stride or gate that could even attempt to pull this off.  Much less have perfect smooth, flat road conditions to do it on.  

And, since this is a website for military applications, who thinks they can patrol on uneven terrain and be able to "hoverglide" this thing?  What's next, you gonna tell me you have new hiking boots with coils springs that will make hiking effortless.  Or did I spoil the free added gift with your purchase?  Hoverglide my ass, the only thing "hovering" here is the smell of bullshit. 

"Pacifism is a shifty doctrine where a person claims all the benefits of the body politic, without any of the responsibilities, and then claims a halo for their dishonesty." Heinlein

We totally need to take up a collection to get Diz one, as long as we get his review on video. 

Popcorn awaits. 

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

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Diz posted:  

And, since this is a website for military applications, who thinks they can patrol on uneven terrain and be able to "hoverglide" this thing?   

I'd like to see it work with helmet.  

 

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Thinking about this on the way home, I decided if I could come up with this technology    AND IT WORKED, was light enough to carry on ones back that could stabilize a load while running/moving, I sure wouldn't be marketing it on something like a backpack.

I'd be going to where the real profit could be made in automobile/transportation.  Much broader customer base and a much wider profit margin.

Without a uniform weight, and a perfect uniform movement on both x, y, and z axis I don't see how this could possibly work.

Also reminded of the Bose active suspension. Yeah, the one that is totally 100% not on your car. 

Annoyingly, looked it up to get the reference and someone is going to maybe make it.

http://www.thedrive.com/news/2...eaded-for-production

It was magic. But it languished for years, and Bose sold the whole division. Ostensibly, cost and weight to the cars, but who knows. Anyway, made me think that we've had suspensions with springs and related mechanical items for a couple hundred years to some effect. But it takes a lot, depends a lot on the load, and active suspensions are really where it's at. I do not see an electronically controlled backpack suspension being a realistic thing before you are all just wearing exoskeletons.

https://www.armytimes.com/news...ightens-combat-load/

The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life. – Theodore Roosevelt

 

Joined: 19NOV2004   Location: Mission, Kansas

I wonder if there was a way to adjust/customise the "hover" bit...but getting it gruntproof would be hilariously difficult.

Mind you, I'm NOT planning on getting one...just thought I'd throw it out there to the wolves.   


 

Joined: 03 OCT 2006        Meatspace Coordinates: The Smoke

Extremely interesting concept.

I just have my doubts about real world applications, like climbing with that thing on. 

Uneven terrain and start/stop movement, as well as wait-awhile vines in the jungle would be incredibly interesting to observe.

 

 

Momentum is a thing. Kinda like gravity, it’s the law. 

I’d be very interesting to see how this holds up to falls and jumps like stepping off big steps, oh, like an A-veh ramp at about 12-15 klicks an hour on a slippery bull dust covered track and one’s footing is precarious. 

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OK let's quit dicking around here; if anybody wants to piss away money on something like this; I will design a ruck that carries 100lbs and feels like 10.  For the low introductory price of 500 bucks each.  For the first 10,  I will throw in a  box of grid squares,that when laid on top of one another, create a portal to transport you from one loc to another.   Just pay an additional handling fee.  Then when 22F and I get to AUSA, we will have lots of beer money.  And thanks in advance.

To order call: 1-800- go fuck me

Returns/complaints: 1-800- fuck off    

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So basically it takes load away in the ground strike phase (pack sliding down) and adds load during rest of stride (pack goes up on rail=pushes body down)? I'd be quite interested how that would affect stride and kinematics...

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Diz posted:

OK let's quit dicking around here; if anybody wants to piss away money on something like this; I will design a ruck that carries 100lbs and feels like 10.  For the low introductory price of 500 bucks each.  For the first 10,  I will throw in a  box of grid squares,that when laid on top of one another, create a portal to transport you from one loc to another.   Just pay an additional handling fee.  Then when 22F and I get to AUSA, we will have lots of beer money.  And thanks in advance.

To order call: 1-800- go fuck me

Returns/complaints: 1-800- fuck off    

With an internal pocket to handle the weight of a prick E-7?

Diz posted:

OK let's quit dicking around here; if anybody wants to piss away money on something like this; I will design a ruck that carries 100lbs and feels like 10.  For the low introductory price of 500 bucks each.  For the first 10,  I will throw in a  box of grid squares,that when laid on top of one another, create a portal to transport you from one loc to another.   Just pay an additional handling fee.  Then when 22F and I get to AUSA, we will have lots of beer money.  And thanks in advance.

To order call: 1-800- go fuck me

Returns/complaints: 1-800- fuck off    

fuck me ! you won the internet today !

stray round posted:

Thinking about this on the way home, I decided if I could come up with this technology    AND IT WORKED, was light enough to carry on ones back that could stabilize a load while running/moving, I sure wouldn't be marketing it on something like a backpack.

I'd be going to where the real profit could be made in automobile/transportation.  Much broader customer base and a much wider profit margin.

Without a uniform weight, and a perfect uniform movement on both x, y, and z axis I don't see how this could possibly work.

Just market it as a cooler.  https://www.arbogabeerpack.se/en/

You have to toggle the pace to EN at the top left.

The promo video left me laughing.  Why the fuck do they have to state that the beer is non-alcoholic?  What Swede would do that? 

 

It is better that they do it imperfectly than that you do it perfectly. For it is their war and their country and your time here is limited.

 

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Ok I couldn't believe this at first but these guys were at SOFIC.  I'm standing there, at the Defense Australia booth, and this old dude comes whizzing by with this pack on.  And yeah, it was "oscillating" or whatever you want to call it.  I'm like what the fuck?  And then a smile comes to my face.  Oh yeah it's the jack off RUCK.  And I just want to say, that guy looked ridiculous.  The vendor was hovering right behind him, talking and adjusting the damn thing.  So it looked pretty damn funny, I mean something right out of Monty Python.  This guy jogging in this ridiculous pack, and this other guy fiddling with it, coaching him, and giving him the sales pitch all at the same time.  All you needed was some medieval costumes and some pot n pans hanging off the damn thing. 

So, to the OP, yes I've seen somebody play with this.  And it was very amusing.  

Now as to the vendors.  They seemed like they really believed in the concept.  Bless their hearts.  But showing up at SOFIC with that thing, is like a strict order of celibate monks showing up for a recruitment drive.  Talk about a tough sell.

Now I say that and DevGru will order 100 for T & E.  Then Matt Best can include that along with the jack-off weight in his next Seal Team work-out vid.                

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