How are you zeroing your PEQ15s?

When I was in active duty, we had PEQ15 zero targets that had the offsets for every weapon system (M4, M249M M240). After we'd zero our weapons (25m for M4, 10m for M249/M240), we'd put them at the appropriate range and using a couple guys it would only take 30 sec to maybe a minute to get 'em dialed in.

I've been unable to find any at my unit, so we've been doing the field expedient ghetto zero by aiming our visab;le laser at something about 100m away while someone dials it in. I'm looking for a better method. 

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Joined: 2/21/04          Location: Seattle,  WA

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I don’t know if this helps, but BAER Solutions has a downloadable target I’ve used for a PEQ15 on an M4:

BAER SOLUTIONS ZERO TARGET

This target was designed to save time zeroing your optic and laser at 25 meters. The black box in the middle is your point of aim for a 50/200 zero with the rounds impacting in the circle below. Laser box is for the Insight LA-5/PEQ-15 model visible red and IR lasers to provide a constant offset setup to your line of sight. 

  1. Zero main optic at 25 meters
  2. Adjust laser vis laser into box, while maintaining point of aim. 
  3. Confirm optic zero at 50 meters with larger circles on top. Point of impact is point of aim at this distance.
  4. At night, apply glint tape to laser square and confirm rounds are still in circle at 25 meters. Best to be done at dusk for maximum visibility.

https://baersolutionsllc.com/page3/

Now I need to find one for a DBAL-A3/PEQ-15A.

 

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The Baer Solutions would be perfect except that it's a 50/200m zero vs the 25/300 that we use. Still worth trying out though...

I just passed off those Telluric targets to our AGRs, hope we can get a few. Still need solutions for M249/M240 though...

PRAISE THE FALLEN

SSG Kevin Roberts KIA 7-May-08         SPC Peter Courcy KIA 10-Feb-09

1Lt Nick Dewhirst KIA 20-July-08          PFC Jason Watson KIA 10-Feb-09

CPL Charles Gaffney KIA 24-Dec-08

 

Joined: 2/21/04          Location: Seattle,  WA

Maybe I'm terribly wrong, but finding furthest object I can see laser on and co witnessing it with red dot worked really well for me.

-easy, works for every combo of laser/rail/position

-gives you slight initial offset at cqb distances, but anything beyond that would have ~same POI/holdover as your rds

-the clicks are usually not as fine as on optic, so I prefer to be sure it's aligned as parallel as possible to the rds axis than possibly getting one click wrong on 10m zero target (I know, confirm, but all the getting paper target at 50/100 that you can put IR dot on x was always kinda PITA) 

 

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I always (yes have several lasers): 

  • Walk up to the target, poke the muzzle into the target, eyeball the height above bore of the RDS, put an aiming paster on that, then another mark or small paster where the laser goes. That one is easier as you turn ON the laser and put the mark there. 
    • Yes, a proper target or pre-measuring offsets is fine also, but these are generally coarse adjustments and you will confirm at range so whatevs. This is as good as you need. 
  • At pretty close range, set the gun in a rest or just hold it, with the RDS/scope on the aiming paster. Have a buddy dial it in to the other mark. He'll be under NODs for this. Work out how to aim if you do not have minimal illum, a dim enough white light to not blow out the laser, etc. Mini cyalumes as aim point can work, for example.  
  • Now, shoot at the aiming paster. Pretty close range still, so the offsets are roughly right. 10 to maybe 25 yards max.
  • Adjust more as needed. Cowitness stuff is never right, have to shoot. 
  • Paste this up or make a new target. Stick it out as far away as you are confident you can aim with the laser at specific dots. 100 m is typical for me. 
  • Shoot, adjust. Remember to adjust to the offset. Vertical I usually blow off as I cannot do the math on it and it's well within the point-blank range when I try it...
  • ...but horizontal offset you leave in there, same at ALL ranges. The laser will keep that offset to the left or right, otherwise you end up with odd horizontal crossing of impact past some range, and that's just nuts.  

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