I've been a fan of the Osoraku-style blades for years now, and I've been a fan of the CRKT James Williams blades, especially the Hissatsu. Yes, it's 440SS, but the blades are inexpensive & I'm not using them daily. the trainers are cheap, too (~$40):

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Recently, I've acquired these, as well:

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The Otanashi rides in my right side hip pocket, the Shizuka in the trauma plate pocket of my vest. The only difference between the two is size.

I like the simple frame lock design for no other reason then it is probably one of the least likely designs to close on me (in the infentessimal probability) if I ever actually have to use these blades for their original intended purposes.  The additional liner lock... well... lock turns the blades essentially into fixed blade knives.

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Para has recently turned me on to the Williams design blades and I just bought a CRKT Heiho. Basically a slightly scaled down Shizuka. I like it so much I passed my Kershaw Cryo II down to my number 2 son. I did take back a Kershaw Median for an everyday beater/work knife. 

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Well yea it's a bit more than the CRKT knives

Of the CRKT knives I liked the Yukanto, but wished they'd made a bigger version.

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Halfneck posted:

Well yea it's a bit more than the CRKT knives

Of the CRKT knives I liked the Yukanto, but wished they'd made a bigger version.

I liked that one, too, but looking recently, CRKT shows it as "discontinued".  Haven't checked other places for availability, yet.

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Speaking of CRKT I've looked at the Obake that is similar but couldn't pull the trigger due to the fear of my hand slipping forward onto the edge if I'm ever attacked by a cardboard box and need to start sewing machine shanking in defense.

Still like the design.

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MOJONIXON posted:
Halfneck posted:

Well yea it's a bit more than the CRKT knives

Of the CRKT knives I liked the Yukanto, but wished they'd made a bigger version.

I liked that one, too, but looking recently, CRKT shows it as "discontinued".  Haven't checked other places for availability, yet.

A bigger version of the Yukanto might just be an Hissatsu.

The Yukanto is still available thru Amazon for @$70.00.

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stray round posted:

...but couldn't pull the trigger due to the fear of my hand slipping forward onto the edge if I'm ever attacked by a cardboard box and need to start sewing machine shanking...

With that resin-impregnated traditional grip (and your thumb over the "pommel"), you could dip your hand and motor oil, stab that thing though quarter inch steel plate, and your hand still won't slip forward. 

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parapyropig posted:
stray round posted:

...but couldn't pull the trigger due to the fear of my hand slipping forward onto the edge if I'm ever attacked by a cardboard box and need to start sewing machine shanking...

With that resin-impregnated traditional grip (and your thumb over the "pommel"), you could dip your hand and motor oil, stab that thing though quarter inch steel plate, and your hand still won't slip forward. 

Stray Round - I don't have the Obake, but I do have the custom Luc Burnley that the Obake was based on.  To clarify Para's statement, in a Reverse Grip your hand is locked in. It's still freaky, but the cord wrapped handles offer a secure grip. I'd not be as confident in a fencer's or hammer grip stabbing into something though.

Re: the Yukanto - I think I've even seen them for around $65 on some knife distributors.

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MG in TX posted:

My neighbor/friend Paul (as in Howe) is a long time friend of James & IIRC even had him to CSAT for a class years ago, hope he spots this thread & perhaps will weigh in as well.

I too was turned on to the Williams Design by Paul.  I carry the Otanashi strong side and a Heiho for formal occasions where I find myself "other than jeans/shorts"  My favorite attribute is  how deep in the pocket they sit.  No tell tale handle sticking out, just the clip.   They are hard to see in dark pants and for less permissive environments, the Heiho disappears in an appendix carry behind a belt.   

Dusty black coat and a red right hand.

After getting a Heiho about a week or so ago, I like how it disappears but at the same time wanted something a touch bigger so I ordered an Hissatsu folder today.  

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My Hissatsu folder arrived Friday so my small Williams collection is now 2 knives. 

Now the question becomes, doing my research prior to a foray into California on Saturday, I see where "Spring loaded" knives are basically a no go. Does any one know or understand CA. law well enough to know if a "Spring assisted " knife is the same as a "Spring loaded" knife?

My gut feeling and knowing somewhat of CA law on these issues is that they are the same. I would like to know with a  certainty as the way the laws are written much misinterpretation can occur at all levels of possible contact there. If that is the case I will just take my Kershaw  Cryo II, unless that is considered "Spring loaded" as well. Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. 

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From talking with a patrol guy in terms of CA specifics on knives with spring mechanisms the difference is basically the emphasis on manual-assisted. A switchblade (worthless for real life stuff anyways) or an automatic knife requires no effort from the user to deploy the blade with the exception on a button/switch. Virtually all other "spring-assisted" knives that most of us here carry are manual-assisted knives, meaning you the user have the use manual force to push the blade/thumbstud out to engage the spring mechanism. Again, I'm no expert on the matter, but after talking with an officer whose booked in more knives than a Kershaw factory I have confidence in that information. I'm sure we have  CA LFer here that can cite the specific legal-ese that spells it out. 

A side-note, before back when I was a police property specialist, I'd always hear of veteran officers complain about either their FTO recruits or just new guys in general always entering/labeling any folding knife as a switchblade. Mainly because if it ever went to court the DA would be pissed that the charge was wrong due to the weapon not being illegal (regular manual folder).

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Thanks, brother. 

Logically I was thinking along those lines, but knowing what little I do know my gut was saying the opposite. 

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Not a problem, as you would suspect CA laws for the most part make no sense at all. A small 2" fixed blade neck knife carried concealed is a worse offense than carrying an unloaded concealed firearm. Most veteran patrol guys I run into know the difference between automatic knives and spring-assisted, partly due to their experience and them doing the homework and paying out of pocket for duty-rated knives.

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I noticed that all of the fasteners on both the Shiz & Otan are hex, but the pocket clips are torx.

I'm going to end up disassembling, cleaning (degreasing), and applying blue Loctite to the main pivot pin on my Otan - it's loosening during repeated use.

I keep the pins in all my folders tight enough so that there's enough resistance to require a deliberate effort to open them & ensure there's no play between the handle and blade when open.

Being OCD about gear PM, I detail strip my blades the moment I can't clean out the detritus with Q-Tips / compressed air. - It's a thing...

Endeavor to be emulable, not suck, persevere, and, imbue ostrobogulousness. 

parapyropig posted:

I noticed that all of the fasteners on both the Shiz & Otan are hex, but the pocket clips are torx.

I'm going to end up disassembling, cleaning (degreasing), and applying blue Loctite to the main pivot pin on my Otan - it's loosening during repeated use.

I keep the pins in all my folders tight enough so that there's enough resistance to require a deliberate effort to open them & ensure there's no play between the handle and blade when open.

Being OCD about gear PM, I detail strip my blades the moment I can't clean out the detritus with Q-Tips / compressed air. - It's a thing...

The clips on both the Heiho and Hissatsu folder are Torx. The Heiho's are T-6. Already stripped the heads out. I hate Torx with a passion, especially freaking tiny ones. The Hissatsu folder is a single Torx and much bigger. Haven't sized it yet.  All others are Torx. FMR. 

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Missed the edit window. The use of Torx fasteners has not diminished my passion for the Williams designs. Thanks Para for turning me on to them. 

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